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tet666




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 10:58    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
hey, everybody can like what they want, but you have to agree, that something can be called bad or a failure none the less.

In the case of TERA, it already failed TWICE. I mean, it got knocked out TWICE for a reason Smile


Sure so what ? Same with most other P2P MMOs that are not WoW.They should have just made the game F2P from the start.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 11:00    Post subject:
@Stormwolf

Yeah, one of the most basic facts of life is that opinions differ - and yet THE most common cause of flames and near-hatred on public forums is the statement of those opinions.

I find it quite amazing, really.

Then again, I'm not diplomatic when I state my opinions - so it's hardly a surprise that I provoke a lot of negative responses. Also, I tend to dislike many games/movies more than most - so that's just extra fuel on the fire.

Personally, though, I can't get upset about an opinion of a game. I can just agree or disagree passionately Smile
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 11:07    Post subject:
Regardless how you state your opinion, if someone loves it, they might take offense to anything negative you say. I say it's a natural thing, I might get annoyed, but i keep it to myself unless i have a valid point which can negate their "faulty" opinion. This obviously not so with everybody.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 11:10    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Regardless how you state your opinion, if someone loves it, they might take offense to anything negative you say. I say it's a natural thing, I might get annoyed, but i keep it to myself unless i have a valid point which can negate their "faulty" opinion. This obviously not so with everybody.


I agree. It's very natural - and I admit that I do sometimes get emotional when I respond, but it's very, very rare.

I tend to set aside emotions when I have a debate, so I come off as a cold arrogant prick - but that's the price you pay, I suppose.

But I don't take it personally when people hate me "online" - because it's not me, but their image of me.

I just can't seem to hate anyone back... We're all strangers to each other anyway Smile
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 11:14    Post subject:
You got me on that one Laughing If i get attacked for silly things i tend to become a bit mad, but that's just how i am. It might be online, but it's still you writing to me, and I writing to you back.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 11:18    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
You got me on that one Laughing If i get attacked for silly things i tend to become a bit mad, but that's just how i am. It might be online, but it's still you writing to me, and I writing to you back.


Yes, it's us writing - but we're not communicating like we would face to face. There are so many subtleties when human beings communicate - and unless you actually watch the person speaking, you have literally no idea whether they're being serious or not - or anything in between.

Even when you're face to face, it can be impossible to detect - but it's beyond our capacity to communicate our state of mind and as such we've learned to depend on body language. When you don't have that - it gets really messy.

Naturally, some people are great at diplomacy and they go out of their way to be polite - but then again, you never really know what they think or feel. You just get an illusion of a real person without any real opinions.
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 11:30    Post subject:
The lack of skill in using sarcasm must be one of the most annoying parts of communicating with certain people on forums such as this. They say something stupid, without any emoticons of any kind, which leaves you stricken as you don't know if the guy is stupid or what only to find out later it was an attempt at sarcasm.

I have been told i have a serious face when joking, so i'm not always the best to read in real life as i hear i tend to have a straight face when joking, but that's involuntary. My sarcasm is always easy to catch though Razz

I don't really socialize with people who don't seem to have no opinions of much (who would?). I always argue back and forth about many things with my friends, so the lack of opinions is not an issue around me Razz
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Casus




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 11:46    Post subject:
I fear there's an element of sarcasm in nearly everything I say. I tend to consider human beings incredibly flawed - and as such, I have no qualms criticising things made by people or receiving criticism.

Obviously, that will rub many people the wrong way - especially if they really like what's being criticised.

But since we're all so flawed - everything we create will naturally be flawed as well. Pointing that out might even be redundant - but we have to talk about something I guess.

I don't know what it is with people that makes them want to pretend some game or some movie is perfect - or that they're beyond criticism - but it does seem to upset a lot of people when flaws are pointed out or debated.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 11:55    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
I fear there's an element of sarcasm in nearly everything I say. I tend to consider human beings incredibly flawed - and as such, I have no qualms criticising things made by people or receiving criticism.

Obviously, that will rub many people the wrong way - especially if they really like what's being criticised.

But since we're all so flawed - everything we create will naturally be flawed as well. Pointing that out might even be redundant - but we have to talk about something I guess.

I don't know what it is with people that makes them want to pretend some game or some movie is perfect - or that they're beyond criticism - but it does seem to upset a lot of people when flaws are pointed out or debated.


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tolanri




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 11:55    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
I don't know what it is with people that makes them want to pretend some game or some movie is perfect - or that they're beyond criticism - but it does seem to upset a lot of people when flaws are pointed out or debated.


I know a reason, sort of. Frequenting this place have spoiled quite a few games for me. So I try to avoid entering threads of yet-to-be-released games, or those that I have yet to play. Not because I'm afraid of story spoilers, but because every bad aspect of a game is pointed out in those threads. I found, that I tend to be blind and/or more tolerant toward game's flaws when I don't read about them prior playing. It's fine to read people opinion and bitching after I've finished the game though, it doesn't affect my experience anymore, it can merely change my opinion of the game if I agree with that criticism.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 12:12    Post subject:
tolanri wrote:
Casus wrote:
I don't know what it is with people that makes them want to pretend some game or some movie is perfect - or that they're beyond criticism - but it does seem to upset a lot of people when flaws are pointed out or debated.


I know a reason, sort of. Frequenting this place have spoiled quite a few games for me. So I try to avoid entering threads of yet-to-be-released games, or those that I have yet to play. Not because I'm afraid of story spoilers, but because every bad aspect of a game is pointed out in those threads. I found, that I tend to be blind and/or more tolerant toward game's flaws when I don't read about them prior playing. It's fine to read people opinion and bitching after I've finished the game though, it doesn't affect my experience anymore, it can merely change my opinion of the game if I agree with that criticism.


Yeah, I can understand that. I do the same thing myself. But it's wiser to simply stay away - than to go into denial mode about flaws.

Obviously, lots of flaws are about our subjective approach to a game - and they might even be good things to other people. But it's hard to enjoy a game if people are constantly bashing it in your presence. So, for a new game you're excited by - I definitely recommend simply staying away from the topic until you're done with it.

But to be upset because people don't enjoy it is just silly, really.
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 11:03    Post subject:
You can now play it for free lol wut Gonna try it today, looks so generic korean grindfest tho Very Happy
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 12:59    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
You can now play it for free lol wut Gonna try it today, looks so generic korean grindfest tho Very Happy


It has a ton of generic typical stuff to it but it plays really nicely, and for a grindfest at lvl 40+ on some classes like the mystic, the game still keeps me playing. You cant even craft at early levels due to the need of so much money to even get the basic quest guides for crafting completed lol.

But once you hit the arcadia area after your first stop at the first city then you start to see money from drops etc and sales coming in at last. Thank fook......
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H4wkeye




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 14:20    Post subject:
I have that UI bug that makes my game run at 20 FPS with UI on, but if I disable it, it goes 60+ FPS.
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MEGAtexture




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 14:28    Post subject:
its a good game, combat is rock solid, pvp is pretty fun, graphics are unthreatened by any other mmo (and many sp games) the art design is awesome, alot of ingenuity, grind isnt there if you ask me, been playing on and off since beta

imho this is gonna be THE best f2p game, i just cant see anything competing
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0wen




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 14:44    Post subject:
I may have to see if I can get a couple of friends to give this a try. F2P always makes it a little easier to give these games a go since you don't have any real investment into it. I really hate monthly fees for games so I am glad to see most of those games getting converted to F2P now.
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Toxikbrain




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 15:27    Post subject:
I just can not get used to the whole keybinding that is required here.
Wish I wasn't a die-hard mouseclicker, so used to that.
Cause this games seems to be pretty awesome for a F2P.
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RainyDay




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 15:36    Post subject:
Finally installed it.. geez.. all that space..
anyway..

pvp or pve server - that's the question.

Anyone who played it on pvp - is it one of these games in which you can't progress area without being attacked every 2 seconds all game long ?


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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 19:49    Post subject:
If you are playing on the US servers, you can transfer for once this month, if i read correctly.
So starting on PVE server, and transfering to PvP would be good.
Nothing of that is currently planned for the EU Surprised


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 21:39    Post subject:
Toxikbrain wrote:
I just can not get used to the whole keybinding that is required here.
Wish I wasn't a die-hard mouseclicker, so used to that.
Cause this games seems to be pretty awesome for a F2P.


what keybind is require here? lol I find no keybind is required no more than anyother mmo.

infacy in playing this so far I find its less keys to use. later as it gets tougher things might change up a bit but so far meh to keybinds Very Happy
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 21:40    Post subject:
H4wkeye wrote:
I have that UI bug that makes my game run at 20 FPS with UI on, but if I disable it, it goes 60+ FPS.


If you get a frame bug, goto video/other/ and turn on low light dimming checkbox, apply then back off again.

if you really have low fps due to pc issues anyhow you can leave that dimming on for boost.

find a few peeps do that anyhow to squeeze all the fps they can muster for pvp :O nothing new there though huh.
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wingR




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 22:10    Post subject:
Lol I just realized I had the client already installed, dont know why because I never played this, hope it works with the new f2p thing Very Happy

edit : Error -101 when loading url https://account.enmasse.com/launcher/1/signin
Sad

edit2: oh wait, its downloading a new patch now Razz
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 22:52    Post subject:
Runs like 60fps+ all the time maxed out. Too bad the game is pure shit like i feared. So generic looking korean design and shit. Monster design is OK, but i cant stand the overall style :/ Combat is nice aswell, but meh, the game needs to suck you in immediately (this didnt do it for me).
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TheZor
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Feb 2013 19:09    Post subject:
I must be really stupid but how do I get a F2P code ? I'm stuck at "You do not have any active TERA accounts." in the launcher.


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Sin317
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Feb 2013 19:10    Post subject:
just make an account.
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sausje
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Feb 2013 19:16    Post subject:
Still pisses me off that crossfire ain't working here, due to the dev not wanting to change some code to make it work...
Prolly fucking nvidia bribe bullshit going on there..


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TheZor
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Feb 2013 19:18    Post subject:
I solved it by changing the email adress of my original account ( which didn't get the free Tera because it was older ), then re-creating an account with my actual adress. In case anyone needed it Razz


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djaoni




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Feb 2013 19:54    Post subject:
Yeah, I had to do that too. Pretty stupid that they didn't think of that.

Anyone else playing on Zuras?
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Feb 2013 20:17    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Still pisses me off that crossfire ain't working here, due to the dev not wanting to change some code to make it work...
Prolly fucking nvidia bribe bullshit going on there..



now that's hilarious.
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sausje
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Feb 2013 20:20    Post subject:
And why is that?
Like a company would never do such a thing? Rolling Eyes

So explain then why SLI does work and the dev refuses to change something in the code to get Crossfire to work? Rolling Eyes
What other possible reason would a dev have to make customers so pissed to actually say out loud that they refuse to do anything for AMD users?


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