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 Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 20:10 Post subject: Games on GOG that are NOT the definitive versions |
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I started replacing several old CD/DVD (scene) game releases with GOG's.. but they aren't always the best possible versions. Some observations:
| Quote: | Amerzone: The Explorer's Legacy; it's the CD version. The DVD version has better quality videos, and I can confirm it's playing just fine on Win7x64 as long as you change the CPU cores affinity to 1 (otherwise it's still playable but FMVs run at a weird speed). edited 2 years later: on another computer I had a little more trouble to get the DVD version to work properly but I still managed to do it via a combination of compatibility settings and frame limiter software.
Riven; it's the CD version. The DVD version has better quality videos etc, and I can confirm it's playable on Win7x64.
Tex Murphy: Overseer; it's the CD version. The DVD version has better quality videos. Supposedly it's not compatible with modern systems though..
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones; it's the censored version. Downloading a cracked uncensored exe might be enough to convert it.
Tomb Raider 1, 2, 3; they are not the "Gold" versions that include extra levels. For TR1&2 those levels can be downloaded for free, but for TR3 they are not made available.
Might & Magic IV+V; Is the combine floppy version, not the CD talkie one.
Descent II; The Redbook audio included with the GOG version of Descent II is from
"Descent I and II: The Definitive Collection" which is different from the original soundtrack. Fix: http://www.gog.com/en/forum/descent_series/how_to_create_an_enhanced_original_descent_ii_soundtrack
Phantasmagoria; GOG is the DOS dosbox version NOT the windows version , dos version runs is 320x240 16 color mode when the windows runs movies and game in 640x480 256 color mode! hfric confirms the Windows version has a single, skippable, bug: http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2025608#2025608
Realms of the Haunting; It's a very "old" version of the game and it cannot be patched.
Zork: Grand Inquisitor; it's the CD version. The DVD version has better quality videos, but it's missing subtitles (AFAIK). (I don't know if the DVD version is compatible with modern systems.)
Fallout; is the uk/censored version. You can convert it though: http://www.gog.com/en/forum/fallout_series/is_this_euro_censored_or_us_uncensored/page1
Disciples 2: Gold; it doesn't have the 4 additional missions that were released in Disciples 2: Rise of the Elves Gold (2006 Edition).
Panzer General 2; it's miissing the Caging the Bear bonus scenario. Fortunately it can be obtained from the old PG2 modding community.
MDK 2; it's not the graphically revamped MDK2 HD version.
Earthworm Jim; it's the "Earthworm Jim 1&2: The Whole Can 'O Worms" dos version. Earthworm Jim 1 also had a separate Win95 release as "Earthworm Jim: Special Edition" with better visuals, new content/levels etc.
Duke Nukem 3D: Atomic Edition; missing the expansions (<- most importantly) and built in enhancements Steam's Duke Nukem 3D: Megaton Edition has.
Shadow Warrior Classic Complete; does not come with the built in enhancements Steam's Shadow Warrior Classic Redux has. In fact the vanilla version GoG is selling, is offered entirely free on Steam with the caveat it's missing the two expansion packs, which are available as a free download anyway: http://www.moddb.com/games/shadow-warrior/downloads Therefore the GoG version cannot be recommended.
Baldur's Gate: The Complete Saga; does not include the Enhanced Edition of BG1. Though the EE might not be the definitive one for everyone, some people do prefer it.
The Ball; is missing the free Portal-themed DLC levels the Steam version has.
ObsCure & ObsCure: The Aftermath; The two ObsCure games are no longer available on GOG. And even if you pirate the earlier GOG releases, they are missing the improvements/changes that were made for the Steam versions (360 gamepad support, some altered sound effects, etc). (Note: the Steam release also lacks a Sum 41 song due to licensing issues and the cutscenes are a little more compressed.) |
I'll add more if I can think (or find out) about others. Anyone knows any more?
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 20:16 Post subject: |
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Might & Magic IV+V (World of Xeen); Is the combine floppy version, not the CD talkie one.
DreamWeb; is CD version but partially censored.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 20:23 Post subject: |
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Fantastic, thanks!
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 02:53 Post subject: |
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Phantasmagoria 1 GOG is the DOS dosbox version NOT the windows version , dos version runs is 320x240 16 color mode when the windows runs movies and game in 640x480 256 color mode!!!! , they only did that because the windows version can't play ONE MOVIE FILE on disc 5 near the end its where you place the dragon statue on the pedestal to reveal the House has secret wall passages... on modern OS's but you can skip this movie making the default 7cd box game of Phanatsmagoria 1 compatible with win vista/7/8
Same is with GORKY17 aka ODIUM this GOG version runs in SOFTWARE MODE aka not using graphic acceleration dumping all gfx data though CPU then in HARDWARE MODE... the thing is METROPOLIS and GOG are in the same building they OWN the source code and still they made such a scam ... they later games are better now with added 3dfx/Riva emulator [example LANDS OF LORE 3 has a custom made 3dfx and riva emulator that can be copied to any old game making it fully compatible with WIN7/8 ]... but why didn't they add it in Gorky 17 is beyond me
I bought only this TWO GAMES ON GOG and it was a huge SCAM .... making me not ever caring about buying they shit again now i pirate it away
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Ankh
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 06:01 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | Might & Magic III+IV (World of Xeen); Is the combine floppy version, not the CD talkie one.
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...which is too bad since I love the one with speech.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 12:39 Post subject: |
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Realms of the Haunting
Do not buy this game on GOG. It's a very "old" version of the game and it cannot be patched. I bought a newer version on eBay with bug fixes and additional input options.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 13:00 Post subject: |
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XIII (The original Ubisoft game with FPS Cel Shading)
Seems to work on all Windows,but it doesnt has all languages included...while the retail CD version has more than english...
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 13:02 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 20:38 Post subject: |
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| Hfric wrote: | | Same is with GORKY17 aka ODIUM this GOG version runs in SOFTWARE MODE aka not using graphic acceleration dumping all gfx data though CPU then in HARDWARE MODE... the thing is METROPOLIS and GOG are in the same building they OWN the source code and still they made such a scam ... they later games are better now with added 3dfx/Riva emulator [example LANDS OF LORE 3 has a custom made 3dfx and riva emulator that can be copied to any old game making it fully compatible with WIN7/8 ]... but why didn't they add it in Gorky 17 is beyond me |
Well if I understand well, it behaves the exact same as the retail version, no? So while it's unfortunate that they didn't make it any better, that doesn't make it a worse version than the retail. So I'm not including it on the list.
| DV2 wrote: | XIII (The original Ubisoft game with FPS Cel Shading)
Seems to work on all Windows,but it doesnt has all languages included...while the retail CD version has more than english... |
I don't think that's an issue to be honest, although I can understand that people might want the extra languages. 
Thank you all!!
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 20:42 Post subject: |
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A few words about
Riven; it's the CD version. The DVD version has better quality videos etc. The stupid people at GOG have said that the publisher DID give them access to both versions but they preferred to use the CD version because the DVD version uses .VOB videos. Which is wrong! The only VOBs used are for the making of, and that's only in the 1998 DVD (the 10th Anniversary DVD dropped them). In fact.. if only the DVD version used VOBs (MPEG2!) videos! It would make them look so much better! 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 21:08 Post subject: |
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Zork: Grand Inquisitor; it's the CD version. The DVD version has better quality videos, but it's missing subtitles (AFAIK). (I don't know if the DVD version is compatible with modern systems.)
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 01:11 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Hfric wrote: | | Same is with GORKY17 aka ODIUM this GOG version runs in SOFTWARE MODE aka not using graphic acceleration dumping all gfx data though CPU then in HARDWARE MODE... the thing is METROPOLIS and GOG are in the same building they OWN the source code and still they made such a scam ... they later games are better now with added 3dfx/Riva emulator [example LANDS OF LORE 3 has a custom made 3dfx and riva emulator that can be copied to any old game making it fully compatible with WIN7/8 ]... but why didn't they add it in Gorky 17 is beyond me |
Well if I understand well, it behaves the exact same as the retail version, no? So while it's unfortunate that they didn't make it any better, that doesn't make it a worse version than the retail. So I'm not including it on the list. |
well they didn't include they custom made 3dfx and riva emulator in it that would run this game in 3D acceleration mode and to add more :
| Code: | | I just bought this game and I am bummed out! It won't even start up. This is the first game I have ever had problems from using GOG.I used my last $6.00 buying this thing. Now it's raining outside and I have a botched game. Hey GOG, how about refunds for people that bought this game? How about a heads up about NVIDIA compatibility issues. It would have been nice if I would have know about them before I purchesed this buggy game. |
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/gorky_17/what_is_the_hope_of_getting_gorky_17_fixed/page4
just read it GOG version of GORKY17 does not even work properly  |
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Nov 2012 05:54 Post subject: |
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fallout, I think is the uk/censored version right? ill check back later when I'm not in my crap phone, maybe somebody has the exact info
you ca n patch it to make it proper and add some recommended patch/mods if you like
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Nov 2012 12:36 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | DreamWeb; is CD version but partially censored. |
I can't find this game on GOG anyway. I know it recently has been released as freeware but I cannot find it on GOG or any reference that it was at a time available.
What's going on?
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Nov 2012 13:07 Post subject: |
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No problem, I removed it from the list.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Nov 2012 13:37 Post subject: |
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It does work as far as I remember. It's a little tricky to install it (google it), but it does work.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Nov 2012 14:09 Post subject: |
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| DV2 wrote: | | The CD version doesnt works on Windows 7 anymore..that's why i mentioned the languages on GOG |
XII works fine , played it yesterday you only have to set compabilty to win98 to install and wait like 15 minutes for the install menu to start |
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 11:58 Post subject: |
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Disciples 2: Gold.
It doesn't have the 4 additional missions that were released in Disciples 2: Rise of the Elves Gold (2006 Edition).
So, no, not a definitive version.
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Nov 2012 22:58 Post subject: |
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why does it matter with overseer if its DVD or CD? i assume they would run both under dosbox making the modern system not an issue anymore
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Nov 2012 03:21 Post subject: |
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| Paintface wrote: | | why does it matter with overseer if its DVD or CD? i assume they would run both under dosbox making the modern system not an issue anymore |
CD VERSION
DVD version
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Nov 2012 12:20 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | brrrr interlaced, i cant bilieve we used interlaced for so long  |
its the magic of old games that used it for upscaling a 320x230 video to 640x480 and removing macro-blocking ... back in those days video codecs where SHIT |
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Nov 2012 00:46 Post subject: |
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Panzer General 2 is not a definitive version. Missing the Caging the Bear bonus scenario. Fortunately it can be obtained from the old PG2 modding community.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Nov 2012 02:23 Post subject: |
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Methinks I should update the OP soon. Thanks everyone for the contributions!
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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And yes Dreamweb is censored,im thankful to have the box version 
