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ixigia
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 16:57    Post subject:
The only real problem with Risen 1 was the second half of the game because the first one was bloody good
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 17:10    Post subject:
G3's problem was the complete lack of main story. You basically had: 1.Find Xardas 2.Collect magical plot item of the day 3.The end. And that killed the whole thing for me. Sure it offered freedom of exploration, but it lacked the structure that made the first two games feel like a complete story.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 17:59    Post subject:
Yep.
I never finish Risen 1, but I start it 3 times because the first part was very good but I couldn't convince myself to go further in the last dungeon stupid part, 3 times.
In G3 I let of 2 times, one in vanilla and second with the community patch. It's just so bud structured and unfinished...
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 19:32    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Vikerness wrote:
Why you guys hate on gothic4 so much? Sure it has nothing to do with the gothic series and its simple, dumb, linear and boring




Pff.. the same could be said about Risen 2 or 80% of the games nowdays.. when did that stopped anyone from playing anything ?!
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Oh and Pete.. you're right. G3 is bad structured and unfinished. But thats about the only flaws it has.. the gothic dna is intact


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 19:43    Post subject:
g3 certainly feels like a gothic game, it's just that the combat is so bad that it drags the entire game down the shitter.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 19:49    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
g3 certainly feels like a gothic game, it's just that the combat is so bad that it drags the entire game down the shitter.

Community patch bro, it improves the combat to some extend. And those big fights when you're taking out an entire town makes up for it, at least in my eyes.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 21:40    Post subject:
My problem in G3 is the HUGE amount of BUGS and the mediocre at best story and that it runs like sh..t even in today top hardwere and those with the latest patches on.
The G1 and G2 had problems but the quality in the "heart" of them make us to go pass them.
G3 is a gothic game, unlike G4, but a very Bad one.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 23:33    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 00:22    Post subject:
garus wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Vikerness wrote:
Sure it has nothing to do with the gothic series and its simple, dumb, linear and boring


That's why. It has nothing to do with Gothic and it's simple, dumb, linear and boring. Thank you for making all of our arguments for us. You can stop talking now Cool Face


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All this talk made me reinstall Risen2 and give it another shot. 2 hours later and im so depressed that i feel i should have tried the new cabelas game instead, or any other game really. Will need months of recovery now..


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 10:28    Post subject:
Risen 2 wasn't so bad.
It's nearly enjoyable enough for one tour.
But that's it all.
G1 & G2 was playable for 3 times at least, G3 for 10 Hours at best and Risen 1 for 3 times only for the half game. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 10:58    Post subject:
Vikerness wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
g3 certainly feels like a gothic game, it's just that the combat is so bad that it drags the entire game down the shitter.

Community patch bro, it improves the combat to some extend. And those big fights when you're taking out an entire town makes up for it, at least in my eyes.


does not improve the feel of combat at all.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 11:43    Post subject:
G3, for all its faults, was at least ambitious. The best than can be said about R2 is that it's mostly bug-free
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 12:09    Post subject:
I enjoyed all of those games nearly equally. Except that G3 felt unfinished. The thing called somehing something Arcania. I couldnt get further than the first 10mins of the game.


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 13:38    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
I enjoyed all of those games nearly equally. Except that G3 felt unfinished. The thing called somehing something Arcania. I couldnt get further than the first 10mins of the game.


I bet you were manipulated by all kinds of hate for this game if you only lasted for 10 minutes. I can't take anyone seriously when they say "game is shit, played for 10 minutes"
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 13:50    Post subject:
Within 10 mins of playing G3 you could run into a boar of doom though. Shit was infuriating. You had to learn to avoid wildlife for the first few hours, at least if you were melee.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 16:46    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
couleur wrote:
I enjoyed all of those games nearly equally. Except that G3 felt unfinished. The thing called somehing something Arcania. I couldnt get further than the first 10mins of the game.


I bet you were manipulated by all kinds of hate for this game if you only lasted for 10 minutes. I can't take anyone seriously when they say "game is shit, played for 10 minutes"


What you are saying is not wrong, of course. So you say the game isnt shit then? I really enjoyed G3, even after all the criticism, but Arcania, I dunno... The beginning really felt extremely boring, and the demo didnt convince me either.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 17:43    Post subject:
The biggest problem with Arcania was the extreme linearity, followed by the badly leveled exploring zones and shitty dungeons, boring quests, hilariously bad dialogues and incredibly easy difficulty. Graphics were pretty though, unoptimized as hell but pretty. I resisted for some hours until I had to give up.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 18:12    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
couleur wrote:
I enjoyed all of those games nearly equally. Except that G3 felt unfinished. The thing called somehing something Arcania. I couldnt get further than the first 10mins of the game.


I bet you were manipulated by all kinds of hate for this game if you only lasted for 10 minutes. I can't take anyone seriously when they say "game is shit, played for 10 minutes"


What you are saying is not wrong, of course. So you say the game isnt shit then? I really enjoyed G3, even after all the criticism, but Arcania, I dunno... The beginning really felt extremely boring, and the demo didnt convince me either.


I'm not saying it's a good game. I'm just saying that it is up to you to figure out for yourself and not give a shit what everyone else thinks. I did finish the game myself. Terrible as a Gothic game, but ok for what it is.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 10:17    Post subject:
Both G3 and G4 are terrible but G3 is also unplayable.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 10:35    Post subject:
G3 is totally playable and enjoyable with the community patches. (especially the last ones)


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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 20:01    Post subject:
G3 is definitely not enjoyable, at least like G1 and G2 and Partially Risen 1 and 2.
Iit's Playable, with patches of community, only for the hard core P.B. fans.
For the most, it's only lost time, not worth the effort at all.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 20:02    Post subject:
Gothic 3 is very much enjoyable Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 20:04    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 20:37    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Gothic 3 is very much enjoyable Smile

Shut up! How dare you?! It's not, don't you get it?! End of story.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 20:39    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Gothic 3 is very much enjoyable Smile

Shut up! How dare you?! It's not, don't you get it?! End of story.


Oh shit.. how foolish of me! Forgive me! Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 20:53    Post subject:
G3 is not good at all Cool
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 20:58    Post subject:
Yes Yes.. so you, Vikerness and pete89 keep telling us. Most of us disagree. You won't change our minds no matter how many times you repeat it Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 21:05    Post subject:
What? The hell? G3 is one of my fav games of all times.. right there in top10 along with the very few ones that i couldnt put down until i finished it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 21:08    Post subject:
... Oops. My sincerest apologies Vikerness, for some reason I thought you were one of those complaining about G3 Sad Sorry!
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