Risen 2
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pillermann




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 08:59    Post subject:
He just repeats what his bosses feed him. I liked his indepth reply about Witcher however.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 09:04    Post subject:
Revan6999 wrote:
I do not understand the "Developed before/after release" distinction for DLC. People just seem to feel entitled to something they are not. The company can sell you 10% of the game and the rest in DLC format if it wants. Where does this notion that the box price gives you access to everything the developer has done in the past several years come from?


Wow? Rolling Eyes
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 11:27    Post subject:
Anyone who defends that kind of "make it now, rip it out and sell it as DLC later" practice (especially when the content is actually THERE on the disk) is a fucking cunt. Simple as that.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 11:41    Post subject:
Except that he's simply pointing out that there's really no difference between it being on the disk or on their servers somewhere. It's their work regardless - and the consumer can decide for himself if he wants to support it or not.

Now, I HATE DLC with a passion - and I think it's pure greed. But whether it's developed before or after release - it's still just work that may or may not be worth it to the individual.

Also, it's almost never the choice of the developer. It's a publisher thing, like most kinds of greed infesting the industry.

If you call people a cunt for recognising something pretty obvious, then you're a bigger cunt yourself.

The biggest cunt of all is the one who willingly supports DLC by paying for it - because he's as guilty as the publisher - and even more stupid. Unless, of course, he/she really thinks that DLC is a positive.

Personally, I almost never buy DLC - and when I do, it's because it's significant and I can't get around paying for it. That makes me a cunt too.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 11:44    Post subject:
Actually, I was talking about the post on the previous page. There is no defence of disc-locked-content, none, anyone claiming otherwise is... yes.. a cunt.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 11:47    Post subject:
You sound like a pretty closed-minded cunt when saying that, but such is the way of cunts Wink They're not as open as they should be!
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 11:48    Post subject:
Jog on.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 11:49    Post subject:
Tis i en tønde
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 13:15    Post subject:
dlc is irrelevant in this game anyways. the one free with preorder took me maybe an hour all together. 30 mins to find the maps in the normal game world and dig them up, then another 30 mins visit the tiny island that i completely explored in probably even less then 30 mins. Im honestly being generous when saying it took me one hour. I would not miss this content at all.

the whole game took me around 45 hours, and it gave me that great sense of adventure like gothic series and risen 1.

the way they handeld dlc's is indeed shit. but hey, the base game i full without it, and i don't mind them making money on tards who need to have even the clothing dlc Cool Face

if the DLC was a huge part of the game content, then having it on disk would be a way more douche corporate greed move.


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 15:59    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Fixed grinhurt


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 16:01    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Fixed grinhurt


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tolanri




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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 12:11    Post subject:
So I suddenly have urge to play some RPG and I still haven't played Risen 2 besides the part of tutorial area when the came came out. So my question is: is the game any good coming from someone who enjoyed Risen 1? Also, is the game polished enough? I only see one update that was released shortly after game came out... Did it fix most of the bugs/problems?
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 12:37    Post subject:
Risen 1 was my goty but its sequel.. worse than gothic4.. it got the worst combat system in the series


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 12:40    Post subject:
play it....and its better then gothic4 Challenge Accepted
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 12:44    Post subject:
pay a visit to worldofrisen.de

Go in the english forums at the modifications and editing section.

Grab AntiWarp and The Unofficial patch 0.5.Should help with some of the unsolved issues of the game.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 12:49    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 13:04    Post subject:
I haven't finished it yet, but I like it more than the first one, simply because they made this one deserve the name, while the first one was just a masked Gothic. I know that's not bad, but at the same time it was supposed to be a new IP.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 13:06    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Worse than Gothic 4? Laughing NOTHING IS WORSE THAN GOTHICOWJI44D!@#E!$



Risen 2 wasn't too bad, they just hyped it up too much and bullshitted their way through all their interviews

The locations aren't very different from each other, but people will defend that by saying "they should look the same", and perhaps they should, but the same is boring

The worst thing for me was getting right up to the end, only for them to release a patch that made combat easier. Granted, it should have been there from the beginning, but it just felt crap knowing that people could just breeze through it after that. It was entirely possible to fight with what you had, when you unlocked abilities you became OP enough, and without the need to be able to dodge as well.

If I had to give it an arbitrary number, I'd give it 7 Risens out of 10


I'm struggling to figure out for myself which is worse. Gothing 3 or 4. Community patch might have fixes issues, but holy shit that combat. I tried a couple of months ago and it's just so bad it's unbrearable.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 13:09    Post subject:
Eh what? Gothic 3, even in a broken vanilla state, overrules Gothic 4 easily.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 13:39    Post subject:
There is no Gothic 4. Nope. Hasn't been made.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 14:34    Post subject:
Why you guys hate on gothic4 so much? Sure it has nothing to do with the gothic series and its simple, dumb, linear and boring but at least is has cool looking weapons/armors with a functional melee system, doesnt it? what does risen 2 have? nothing. kinda pointless discussion though, wondering which one is a 2/10 game and which one is a 4/10. I'd give the edge to gothic4 ^^ a well deserved 4 Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 14:36    Post subject:
Gothic 1 was the original, a real gem in a tolkien's world and the best in the series but unfortunately unimaginable buggy, a real technical nightmare.
Gothic 2 was very good but rushed at the finale and not as original us the first one but acceptable technically even if it was buggy too.
Gothic 3 was a disaster. Unfinished even today with all the community patch is just about playable and certainly not enjoyable at all.
G4 wasn't PBs and was a generic action game uninteresting and with nothing reminds the real gothic series.
Risen 1 was so and so, not bud and a gothic in style for sure but it was rushed in the end the finale charter was really boring ( I played it 2 times and stoped in there and never finished it).
Risen 2 was technicaly the best of the series and certainly a gothic in style but it was watered down in complexity and deepness to be engaging probably in a broader audience but it turns out to be hilarious and silly and not likeable by anyone.
PB have, or had, talent to make excellent games but their managerial sector is a tragedy Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 14:37    Post subject:
Vikerness wrote:
Sure it has nothing to do with the gothic series and its simple, dumb, linear and boring


That's why. It has nothing to do with Gothic and it's simple, dumb, linear and boring. Thank you for making all of our arguments for us. You can stop talking now Cool Face
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 15:34    Post subject:
But "Vikerness" have a point.
G3 and G4 are the worst in the series and both non enjoyable at all.
But G4 isn't buggy and it's playable, if you want to do so.
G3 is so buggy and outrageous incomplete that only a kinky masochist can enjoy it. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 15:48    Post subject:
I finished Gothic 3 twice (once with an early CP and once with the final CP), it was more than enjoyable.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 15:52    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
I finished Gothic 3 twice (once with an early CP and once with the final CP), it was more than enjoyable.


Three times for me, once vanilla and twice with progressing CP releases. The game is great, how any supposed Gothic fan can ever claim "not enjoyable" is beyond me.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 15:55    Post subject:
Just go to the WoG forums and see for yourself. There are many that hate even 3 with a passion. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 16:17    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
There is no Gothic 4. Nope. Hasn't been made.



About Risen 2, it's very rough and the combat system is underwhelming, but the game also has a huge world to explore, tons of things to do and interesting characters, so yeah, I'd recommend it to anyone is looking for some RPGsauce. Risen 1 was better though Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 16:33    Post subject:
I don't think that Risen 1 is better than Risen 2.
Both are sub poor but the second part is better technically and the first was very bad in the end.
And I agree that G3 is by far the worst in the series.
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