[XBOX360/PS3] Max Payne 3 [R]
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 19:00    Post subject:
7.6..

I just finished and the game and it was pretty satisfying experience
I will replay it once again on PC

9.5/10 from me


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 19:05    Post subject:
I would give 6/10 to modern warfare 3 or blackops and 9/10 or more to MP3. they are idiots Laughing

http://www.giantbomb.com/max-payne-3/61-23398/reviews/
4/5 stars (thats much for giantbomb-positive review)

http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/5/14/3018219/max-payne-3-review
9/10.... whatever that site is worth


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 19:11    Post subject:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/max-payne-3/critic-reviews

21 critics until now - 88%

Cant wait for my pre-order copy to arrive Very Happy (Huge maxpayne/remedy/rockstar fan!)
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digitalpunk89




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 19:22    Post subject:
I used to like GT reviews, but lately i don't know what they are smoking.
Just watched the review on GT and it seems to me that the guy who did the review didn't played the old Max Payne games.
If that's the case..he didn't get the idea of the game at all. Smile
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akvma
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 19:49    Post subject:
did i play the game wrong ?

i finished it and i wouldn't give it more than 6/10

i'm not even trolling, that just wasn't max payne.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 19:50    Post subject:
You have a right to not like it. Maybe the theme changes were too big for You?


How would You rate new jersey chapters only ?


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 20:02    Post subject:
i don't know, hardly any better

in the previous max payne games you always felt so isolated, roaming around new york city, one of the biggest, most alive cities in the world, but you always felt alone, everything was always "off", empty and on top of it abstract

and you were always fighting for yourself, for your own cause, not to rescue some people, either on the run from the big crime syndicates/conspiracies or on the hunt and almost no one was ever on your side

i played on normal and died round about hundreds of times, only used bullettime to shoot from cover

cover shooting, like in any other generic shooter today, by the end of the game i was hardly bulletdodging anymore, not even running around with bullettime on, just hiding

and whenever i was low on health and had no painkillers i just ran out of cover and let them kill me, i knew i was going to die anyways, there was no way out of that

given the modern gameplay style it seemed like regenerating health was missing, not that i wanted it, i wanted max payne.

and where were the comic stripes ?

maybe i should play it again on the PC, but in the best case, without dying all the time, it would still not be great, neither the story nor the atmosphere
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 20:04    Post subject:
I think you were playing the game wrong, leading to a shitty experience. You pretty much ruined it for yourself.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 20:12    Post subject:
akvma wrote:
i don't know, hardly any better

in the previous max payne games you always felt so isolated, roaming around new york city, one of the biggest, most alive cities in the world, but you always felt alone, everything was always "off", empty and on top of it abstract

and you were always fighting for yourself, for your own cause, not to rescue some people, either on the run from the big crime syndicates/conspiracies or on the hunt and almost no one was ever on your side

i played on normal and died round about hundreds of times, only used bullettime to shoot from cover

cover shooting, like in any other generic shooter today, by the end of the game i was hardly bulletdodging anymore, not even running around with bullettime on, just hiding

and whenever i was low on health and had no painkillers i just ran out of cover and let them kill me, i knew i was going to die anyways, there was no way out of that

given the modern gameplay style it seemed like regenerating health was missing, not that i wanted it, i wanted max payne.


and where were the comic stripes ?

maybe i should play it again on the PC, but in the best case, without dying all the time, it would still not be great, neither the story nor the atmosphere


LOL

I remember the days when I was usually half healed during the entire game..older RE and SH titles ( slow movement ) , some older shooters too..so you just gave up when you were on your low health . So.. preety much what Mister_s said , and I finished it on hard with free aim. Laughing

Todays kids are so spoiled , poor games.. Crying or Very sad
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digitalpunk89




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 20:18    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
I think you were playing the game wrong, leading to a shitty experience. You pretty much ruined it for yourself.


This.

Why not try at least? It would be more satisfying if you got out of the situation with low health.
And you ask for regenerating health and after that you ask for some old school max payne Mind Is Full Of Fuck
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 20:19    Post subject:
akvma wrote:
only used bullettime to shoot from cover
...
i wanted max payne.


huh ? Confused
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 20:24    Post subject:
digitalpunk89 wrote:
Mister_s wrote:
I think you were playing the game wrong, leading to a shitty experience. You pretty much ruined it for yourself.


This.

Why not try at least? It would be more satisfying if you got out of the situation with low health.
And you ask for regenerating health and after that you ask for some old school max payne Mind Is Full Of Fuck


this x100..
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 20:31    Post subject:
I don't get it.... Everyone wanted oldschool Max Payne. Gritty story, great shooting.
And thats what we go - Linear shooter just like old games.

I guess that Max payne 1 and 2 would score 6/10 nowadays Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 21:15    Post subject:
not like i expected anything else from nfohump

i mean how many of you actually played the game ? i finished it at least.

and i didn't ask for regenerating health at all, read again please, i said the game feels like it was designed for regenerative health

but please, go on and play one of the later levels, stay out of cover use bulletdodge or bullet"running" and see how long you will live, if i recall you were invincible in the previous max paynes during bullettime (expect against grenades), not here tho

and it is not like i never tried to go against my enemies with low health, experience just showed that it was futile, autosaves are unforgiving and there isnt that much painkillers just laying around, in most cases you would die sooner or later

the whole "shooting out of cover with bullettime" is just an intuitive development, it's not like i didnt begin the game just playing it like i always played max payne, if hiding behind cover just to plan my next cool run trough the room jumping and shooting, that didnt work for long

remember max payne when you could just run along the subway station and find a random amount of enemies, sometimes just one guy guarding some door ?

this game is like any other cover-based shooter, you enter a room, kill a dozen of people, next room, next wave.

and back in the day i would have given max payne 1 a 9.5

and max payne 2 probably somewhere around 9, backtracking is a little bit boring.

it might be called max payne, but it still isnt, i'd play the old ones any day over this
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 21:20    Post subject:
no no. I understand You opinion but You played it really weird. Slow motion from cover?

Maybe just You got older? In old Max Paynes You just shootdodge all day long and also run from one wave to another. It just was 10 years ago and was revolutionary then

I was usually on half health and was running around and shootdodging.
And I love the story and atmosphere. I am on chapter 12 tho. Maybe after shitty ending (hope not) I will change my mind.



its kinda like Darkness1->Darkness2 but way better Razz


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 21:24    Post subject:
so you got a real life max with a real realistic story line about *SPOILER*ORGAN TRADE*SPOILER* then MAX PAIN 1 Hitlers Super Soldier Serum with Illuminati and Inner Cycle ... and derp people didn't like it ... because of the lack of comic book panels WTF


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 21:34    Post subject:
I am playing AGAIN Max Payne 1 atm on iOS and obviously you don't have any memory from it : it was exactly the same, you enter one room, kill all the guys, "last guy cam", next spot, etc. The subway place always had multiple guys waiting for you.

akvma wrote:
not like i expected anything else from nfohump

i mean how many of you actually played the game ? i finished it at least.

and i didn't ask for regenerating health at all, read again please, i said the game feels like it was designed for regenerative health

but please, go on and play one of the later levels, stay out of cover use bulletdodge or bullet"running" and see how long you will live, if i recall you were invincible in the previous max paynes during bullettime (expect against grenades), not here tho

and it is not like i never tried to go against my enemies with low health, experience just showed that it was futile, autosaves are unforgiving and there isnt that much painkillers just laying around, in most cases you would die sooner or later

the whole "shooting out of cover with bullettime" is just an intuitive development, it's not like i didnt begin the game just playing it like i always played max payne, if hiding behind cover just to plan my next cool run trough the room jumping and shooting, that didnt work for long

remember max payne when you could just run along the subway station and find a random amount of enemies, sometimes just one guy guarding some door ?

this game is like any other cover-based shooter, you enter a room, kill a dozen of people, next room, next wave.

and back in the day i would have given max payne 1 a 9.5

and max payne 2 probably somewhere around 9, backtracking is a little bit boring.

it might be called max payne, but it still isnt, i'd play the old ones any day over this
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 21:51    Post subject:
How do you swap discs for this game? My peasant 20GB internal HDD doesn't have enough space to hold both the GOD rips. So I loaded one disc on my internal HDD and one on a USB thumb drive. Tried loading both the discs individually from FSD and both ask me to insert discs.
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digitalpunk89




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 21:58    Post subject:
@akvma

It's your opinion dude, I respect that.
We are all trying to say that it's basiclly the same gameplay expericene, try playing it without autoaim and fly all around the room like in the old max payne games, regardless of your health level.
Remeber in max payne 1 or 2 when at the last checkpoint you had 10-20% of your health left and only one or no painkillers? You had to try to get past he next wave of enemies only with that..

I'm on chapter 8 or 9 btw.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 21:58    Post subject:
i had the same problem mate only had a 20 gig drive i had to get a save from the start of disc 2 of somebody else was well pissed off with the 20 gig drive theres no other way i dont think
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 22:02    Post subject:
digitalpunk89 wrote:
@akvma

It's your opinion dude, I respect that.
We are all trying to say that it's basiclly the same gameplay expericene, try playing it without autoaim and fly all around the room like in the old max payne games, regardless of your health level.
Remeber in max payne 1 or 2 when at the last checkpoint you had 10-20% of your health left and only one or no painkillers? You had to try to get past he next wave of enemies only with that..

I'm on chapter 8 or 9 btw.



Actually I found that its not a bad idea NOT to use left trigger for aiming. just shoot and run


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 23:02    Post subject:
Wow, massive rage on gametrailers review :

Design 7,7?! Gameplay 7,5?! cod had better scores.

which was obviously done by someone who's an lousy gamer who can't beat the game on normal).

6.8 Story... 6.8 WHAT. THE. F*CK. Perhaps it's a matter of taste.
But it's absolutely insanely good for me, even my most LOATHED(!!!) feature (Max going baldie on us) is handled well and does infact make sense.
One of the most entertaining, intense, HARD!(in a good old school way) shooter I've played in a very long time. Don't believe ONE SINGLE review check other sites. GET THIS GAME. IT IS GOOD.
[Sorry for sounding like a fanboy, but I don't want people turning away from a excellent game

rename it call of max payne and maybe gametrailers would have gave it a 9 or above,

id they really just complain that the Ai was actually good? wow
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 23:08    Post subject:
just finished it fantastic great enjoyment for me and it looked really good on the xbox 360
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th May 2012 23:09    Post subject:
god... they are morons.... I mean scores over 7 are good scores, but gametrailers is only giving scores above 7 Laughing
And really? cod gets 9 or above? God ... black ops was terrible. Modern warfare 2 and 3 together shouldn't get score this high.

btw. they gave f.e.a.r 9.1 on pc an 8.8 on 360 back in 2006. Seems that they are hiring different reviewers Confused


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th May 2012 00:04    Post subject:
I keep on playing, even though it feels more like a chore

Need to replay the old ones, but memories of those are more vivid and memorable than this. Might of course be wrong. Many moons have passed since I played any of those.

Definetly share some of the viewpoints that akvma has. Like sometimes its just easier to kill yourself to get that pill bottle that you know you will need in next shoot out.

Had to choose free aim to literally find the aim dot easier. Subs sucks as well. Too small and portugese?

And how can you play this game wrong? Isnt that bad game design then? Why is the game tricking me to believe that I can play the game in a certain way, when acording to many of you I cant? I agree that the game wants to be played more agressive, but many times it just doesn't feel like a smart move, especially not knowing level layout and where enemies will turn up next.

Anyway, close to the end and had some good times, but nowhere close to 9 from me. Liked remedys original versions of Payne better.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th May 2012 00:34    Post subject:
If you hide behind cover disregarding bullttime, let yourself die just because you can't handle it and call it bad because you die a lot, you're probably playing it wrong yes.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th May 2012 02:58    Post subject:
I've just finished it. FUCKING AMAZING !!! Loved everything in it. Maybe the last 2 vhapters were a bit too hard but its Max Payne. It was the same in first and second game. Now I can finish whole trilogy in order knowing how good it all is.
It might be me but I just like linear shooters like that, binary domain or gears of war.

Note that I was not using cover too much. I was mostly trying to run and gun plus shoot dodge and it worked besides last chapter. It was beginning to chore a bit but ending was very satysfing among all that cliff hanger crap recently.
9/10 from me.
Also note that if it wasn't Max Payne but a game about some other dude It would scored lower. Max is a star here.


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th May 2012 05:44    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
If you hide behind cover disregarding bullttime, let yourself die just because you can't handle it and call it bad because you die a lot, you're probably playing it wrong yes.


Nah, if i use bt when in cover, i use it when i pop up from it.

And no I dont call it bad because I die alot. The game obviously isnt bad, but the options to gameplay mechanics seems abit scizophrenic.

Just played abit again and one thing that made me smile was when enemy was hiding behind a corner in a stairway. Reminded me of some trial and error moments from the originals. But when playing that part now, it was kind of expected. Like an alien movie, but you know where the scare will be...
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th May 2012 09:04    Post subject:
I think the game is "ok". But I miss the old darker style, so for me it is mostly the locations that drags the game down. The Jersey episodes are good though, wished for more of those.

Might be harsh, but too me it feels at times like someone did a Max Payne-mod for GTA4? Not exactly, but there is something that really put me off from the Max Payne-feeling...

Still though, entertaining game and I can see that Rockstar tried their best. As a game on its own I give it 8/10, as a Max Payne 6/10 Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th May 2012 09:18    Post subject:
GT votes were absurdly low, but I agree with some of the points they make (annoying graphic effects in cutscenes, some flawed mechanics, badly implemented aiming etc.). I'd give the game a 8.5, a very solid and fun game, but not everything works quite as it shoulds.
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