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There is no such thing as "the end of the scene". StarForce will have its 15 minutes of fame in Wired and be touted as "the copy protection to end all copy protections" and then it will be completely reverse engineered and/or there will be some snafu about it interfering with legitimate use, or something else, and it will exit stage left. Because the candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long. |
I doubt SF3 will be completely reverse engineered. My opinion and hope is that more and more publishers will not stick with SF3 after trying it and getting many complaints about it from customers. If the rumors are true and Ubisoft are really going to stop using SF3, Im quite sure many pubs will follow them - the big name is always immitated and followed - "if Ubisoft doesnt like SF3, and including all my problems with customers about SF3, why should I like it?". Ubisoft leaving the "circle of starforced" would be very good sign for the scene
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 12:40 Post subject: |
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| veseo wrote: | | phybre wrote: |
There is no such thing as "the end of the scene". StarForce will have its 15 minutes of fame in Wired and be touted as "the copy protection to end all copy protections" and then it will be completely reverse engineered and/or there will be some snafu about it interfering with legitimate use, or something else, and it will exit stage left. Because the candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long. |
I doubt SF3 will be completely reverse engineered. My opinion and hope is that more and more publishers will not stick with SF3 after trying it and getting many complaints about it from customers. If the rumors are true and Ubisoft are really going to stop using SF3, Im quite sure many pubs will follow them - the big name is always immitated and followed - "if Ubisoft doesnt like SF3, and including all my problems with customers about SF3, why should I like it?". Ubisoft leaving the "circle of starforced" would be very good sign for the scene |
There were also rumors about Codemasters stopping using SF3, but they're still using it... SF3 someday will be completle RE... just like LaserLock, Tages, and other protections... Just give crackers some time...
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sage386
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd May 2005 10:55 Post subject: Re: Legality of Starforce |
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| MMAssassin wrote: | | Isn't illegal for a game, program, or any other software to install itself on your pc without your knowledge? |
I suppose you've installed the game before with it's own installer! And the game might install whatever it requires for proper execution. Why don't you complain about some textures, sounds, dlls capable of playing such sounds are begin installed?
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd May 2005 10:59 Post subject: Re: Legality of Starforce |
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| sage386 wrote: | | MMAssassin wrote: | | Isn't illegal for a game, program, or any other software to install itself on your pc without your knowledge? |
I suppose you've installed the game before with it's own installer! And the game might install whatever it requires for proper execution. Why don't you complain about some textures, sounds, dlls capable of playing such sounds are begin installed? |
because textures and maps doesn't fuck up my pc... i bought toca2 and obscure, end of starforce on my pc, printer and usb pendrive were death till i formatted...
starforce should be banned from earth, i don't buy/download a game with starforce, it's not a problem of buying or get cracked, no sf3 on my pc evah
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd May 2005 15:30 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd May 2005 23:08 Post subject: |
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| bigboy177 wrote: | | quite right... And BTW... maybe even now someone is creating a tool to crack SF3... and maybe even the tool is finished... who knows... Even the l337est sceners don't know what's going on in every part of the scene... |
All I mentioned was the scene, I've little doubt that somewhere a non-scene team has compromised SF3. The Ultima games showed a very high level of knowledge about the protection, and regarding them being bug exploits two different versions of SF3 were broken, second game in response to SF alledgedly claiming that they had fixed the bug in earlier version.
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| Posted: Sun, 8th May 2005 11:54 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | That's why it stays unbeaten for more than a year... They need to rethink their methods |
If crackers cannot rethink their methods for over a year then I do not even want to imagine how much time and effort it will take to manage it.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 19:27 Post subject: Trackmania |
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iMMERSION cracked trackmania... they released a wierd crack that replaced alot of files in the install folder... it was 20meg large. couldnt they do the same with sunrise?
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 19:30 Post subject: MYTH |
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oh.. just heard a rumour that myth cracked the game.. testing it now
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 20:34 Post subject: Re: MYTH |
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| nikkern wrote: | | oh.. just heard a rumour that myth cracked the game.. testing it now |
if your rumor is the usb cd drive then think again... that thing works with every starforce game is not anything new
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 10:06 Post subject: Re: MYTH |
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| nikkern wrote: | | oh.. just heard a rumour that myth cracked the game.. testing it now |
well even if your rumor is right i dont think you will see a Crack of this game by MYTH/HOODLUM crew.
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2005/June/05_crm_353.htm
According to uk TV news myth leader in usa is jailed and some uk and nl guy too. I heared the rumor the team retired completly including their crackers.
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deptalon
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 10:28 Post subject: Re: MYTH |
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| Freakshow wrote: | | nikkern wrote: | | oh.. just heard a rumour that myth cracked the game.. testing it now |
well even if your rumor is right i dont think you will see a Crack of this game by MYTH/HOODLUM crew.
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2005/June/05_crm_353.htm
According to uk TV news myth leader in usa is jailed and some uk and nl guy too. I heared the rumor the team retired completly including their crackers. |
correct
Proud Member of the Nforce communitee *shrugs*
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 12:31 Post subject: |
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The fallen ones are usually site-ops. Crackers stay in the shadow.
They busted some people and what? The scene is alive and games are being cracked.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 12:47 Post subject: |
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| MartinW wrote: | The fallen ones are usually site-ops. Crackers stay in the shadow.
They busted some people and what? The scene is alive and games are being cracked. |
I don't doubt that!!!Let's just wait to see what was the impact of this arrests.
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deptalon
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 14:18 Post subject: |
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| MartinW wrote: | The fallen ones are usually site-ops. Crackers stay in the shadow.
They busted some people and what? The scene is alive and games are being cracked. |
lol your funny there target was suppliers and crackers
they busted atleast 4 crackers 1 in dk and 3 in nl
Proud Member of the Nforce communitee *shrugs*
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 15:05 Post subject: |
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| deptalon wrote: | | MartinW wrote: | The fallen ones are usually site-ops. Crackers stay in the shadow.
They busted some people and what? The scene is alive and games are being cracked. |
lol your funny there target was suppliers and crackers
they busted atleast 4 crackers 1 in dk and 3 in nl |
And what? You were in the middle of the action or are a neighbour of these "very known" crackers?
These "federal actions" are very boring. They do not change anything. Scene was, is and will exist.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 16:14 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | These "federal actions" are very boring. They do not change anything. |
Yes they do change the life of the busted people!!!
Never forget this, some of them will spend years in jail!!!
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TheDuck
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Only sellers go to jail, they deserve that.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 18:30 Post subject: R.I.P |
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One minute silence to Myth, Hoodlum and the rest of the fine men.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 19:06 Post subject: |
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| TheDuck wrote: | | Only sellers go to jail, they deserve that. |
True about your last part, but unfortunately your're wrong with you're first part not only sellers but also crackers.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 19:58 Post subject: |
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Jesus christ.... we got a sex slave industry that is HUGE in eastern europe... and what the fock is cops doing? chasing geeks!
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 23:18 Post subject: |
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| MartinW wrote: | | deptalon wrote: | | MartinW wrote: | The fallen ones are usually site-ops. Crackers stay in the shadow.
They busted some people and what? The scene is alive and games are being cracked. |
lol your funny there target was suppliers and crackers
they busted atleast 4 crackers 1 in dk and 3 in nl |
And what? You were in the middle of the action or are a neighbour of these "very known" crackers?
These "federal actions" are very boring. They do not change anything. Scene was, is and will exist. |
They change everything... Not only for the cracker's and other ppl's lives but they also have an impact on the scene... Before the last year's busts the scene had four major groups: IMS,RZR,DEV and FLT, after the busts there were only two HLM and RLD. VNG, MON and other groups realease only shitty games... so I don't think they really matter... After the latest busts, no group maybe left...
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