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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 16:49    Post subject:
Did you play the beta like the rest of us? It was horrible and the reviews all say the same thing, which means the final version didn't fix that.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 16:50    Post subject:
Oh dear, I've been looking forward to this game for awhile now..


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 16:59    Post subject:
So should i look forward to Risen2 (I somehow liked the first one), or should i rather play with MS Paint till some good game comes out ?
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 17:06    Post subject:
K0tY wrote:
So should i look forward to Risen2 (I somehow liked the first one), or should i rather play with MS Paint till some good game comes out ?


Why let others decide for ya? Go ahead and try it out yourself when it comes out. Not like you have to pay for it or anything Cool Face
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 17:17    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
K0tY wrote:
So should i look forward to Risen2 (I somehow liked the first one), or should i rather play with MS Paint till some good game comes out ?


Why let others decide for ya? Go ahead and try it out yourself when it comes out. Not like you have to pay for it or anything Cool Face


Well i read mixtures of Hate and slight dose of love, but more hate, and with low reviews im not gonna waste 13gb+ of HDD space just to check it out, it was the only game that had "soon" in my calendar of upcoming game titles.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 17:17    Post subject:
yep i played the beta but only for like 10 minutes for i did not want to spoil the whole shiet.

It didn't strike me as more "somehow" than any previous PB titles.
Sabin, please stop trolloloing me with the "reviewers say" Smile) "reviewers" had almost only bad things to say about the Gothics also as far as I can remember.

Their games might be buggy, glitchy with steep-learning-curve dynamics and so on but STILL are far more entertaining than ultra polished popcord entertaiment like Kingdoms of Amalur par ex. or ME3. or pretty much any recent American RPG minus the Elder Scrolls
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 17:24    Post subject:
No trolling in my post whatsoever, though I do find it hilariously typical that reviewers are derps and shouldn't be listened to.... if they're saying bad things about a game you like, but if they were praising it; you'd be linking to their articles. I don't really care what you think is a better form of entertainment, I'm simply stating that the beta of Risen 2 was a mess and - so far - all the reviews/previews of the final product have the same complaints, which means PB didn't fix the issues from the beta. Not to mention the fact that R2 has seemingly been radically streamlined from R1 -- oh and that Derp Silver are already splintering, and annoying, the fanbase with their DLC bullshit.

Either live with it, or don't, I don't care Razz I'm not trying to tell you what to do, simply saying that blind loyalty to PB is every bit as "biased" as you claim the reviewers are against PB.



....... one more thing; I own all the Gothic games, with the exception of the horrifying Arcania, so I'm not completely sure what your point is.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 22:02    Post subject:
ok, ok. you have a point that I'm a fanboy, I surrender.
I bet that after it's released and you'll play a bit into it you'll have a more benevolent opinion.

kudos to you for 0wning all the Gothic games I guess Smile

But the bit about the reviewers you're off I think.
I mean the IGN guy said something like : "PB is struggling since the first Gothic with the combat scheme". Which is derp because PB actually had very good-fun combat except Gothic 3. Risen had satisfying mortal kombat in my opinion (which is hard to come by in any recent RPG). The reviewer totally misses the point of the whole series regarding combat.

go PB ! Very Happy

(I only said it for the luls)
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 22:04    Post subject:
Are you kidding? Hell yeah I'm still going to play it, lol, I thought that much a given Very Happy Don't pay any attention IGNorant, they're utterly useless, my only point was that so far the reviews have mentioned the same drawbacks that were in the demo/beta. That wasn't me saying "This game fucking sucks, ignore it!" Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 22:07    Post subject:
schmoo wrote:
ok, ok. you have a point that I'm a fanboy, I surrender.

Immediately obvious when you called them "Piranhas".

I only ever see that on German WoG boards. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 23:04    Post subject:
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0052RNFKI/

Just saw this on amazon, was looking for "Steelbeards Treasure Edition" .
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typical jew comment
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 23:09    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Risen 2 reviewed by a girl: http://www.digitalnoob.com/reviews/risen-2-dark-waters-review/ Cool Face Laughing


That, like every other article thus far, is pretty damning Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 23:17    Post subject:
pillermann wrote:
schmoo wrote:
ok, ok. you have a point that I'm a fanboy, I surrender.

Immediately obvious when you called them "Piranhas".

I only ever see that on German WoG boards. Razz


He's just a poser. Real PB fanboys hate G3 Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 23:28    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
He's just a poser. Real PB fanboys hate G3 Very Happy
What?!

sabin1981 wrote:
ixigia wrote:
Risen 2 reviewed by a girl: http://www.digitalnoob.com/reviews/risen-2-dark-waters-review/ Cool Face Laughing


That, like every other article thus far, is pretty damning Sad

I read it and I find it absolutely stupid.


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 23:28    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
ixigia wrote:
Risen 2 reviewed by a girl: http://www.digitalnoob.com/reviews/risen-2-dark-waters-review/ Cool Face Laughing


That, like every other article thus far, is pretty damning Sad


That you can take that review seriously is damning.

Reviews are pretty good so far, most are in the 8-8.5 range, same range as Risen 1.

http://www.gamebanshee.com/reviews/107840-risen-2-dark-waters-review.html

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 23:31    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I do find it hilariously typical that reviewers are derps and shouldn't be listened to.... if they're saying bad things about a game you like, but if they were praising it; you'd be linking to their articles.


Shocker(!) Rolling Eyes All the negative reviews are just jokes, or derps, or losers, of faggots, or whatever else you crazy kids wanna label them... but ho! A positive review? Must be true! They must be the bastion of truth for all to see! Wahoo!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 23:51    Post subject:
haven't played the beta, and tried to avoid information about this game as much as i could, and all that came through this wall of obliviousness was negative drops of information.
so i caved a bit, watched a few gameplay vids and read a couple of reviews, and the picture is not a pretty one...
nevertheless!! despite all negative reviews and opinions out there i remain completely optimistic that this would be as much a gem as the first risen game, and would deliver the unpolished quality expected from PB (not a fanboy, so dont even try... Smile)

call it blind faith if you will, and your probably right, but i prefer to try this game when it comes out with the minimum of prejudice as possible, thus making it more probable to be enjoyed thoroughly
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2012 00:23    Post subject:
Played the Beta, wish I hadn't... all interest and hope died with it. I had hopes after Risen but I can't cope with the gameplay changes they did with Risen2.


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2012 00:29    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Risen 2 reviewed by a girl: http://www.digitalnoob.com/reviews/risen-2-dark-waters-review/ Cool Face Laughing


and the comment

Quote:
how about you go wash some fucking dishes?


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Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2012 06:10    Post subject:
Or better yet..

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/now-playing/?event=now_playing_risen_220120424&tag=Topslot;Risen2LiveStream;Risen24HourLiveMara;WatchItLive

question is ...what the f is he playing on lol... sub 30 fps at 720p???


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2012 06:55    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
Or better yet..

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/now-playing/?event=now_playing_risen_220120424&tag=Topslot;Risen2LiveStream;Risen24HourLiveMara;WatchItLive

question is ...what the f is he playing on lol... sub 30 fps at 720p???


SLI problem. He fixes it half way through the video.
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2012 06:58    Post subject:
Sli what? 8800gt?


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2012 08:11    Post subject:
Combat in risen 1 was pretty good.When you timed your hits it was easy to beat the enemies, when you just spammed click it was harder.
So there where click spamming for console derps, and timing for us Pc gamers, everyone was happy.
Why is the change?
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2012 09:21    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
Or better yet..

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/now-playing/?event=now_playing_risen_220120424&tag=Topslot;Risen2LiveStream;Risen24HourLiveMara;WatchItLive

question is ...what the f is he playing on lol... sub 30 fps at 720p???


OMG those graphics.... those shadows..... wtf Sad


Empty again Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2012 10:09    Post subject:
I am just not going to care about the reviews and play the game. I remember everyone bashing G3 like hell (well it wasnt as good as G2, for sure) but I enjoyed it nonetheless, I am sure I will enjoy R2 aswell. I have a feeling it will still be better than Arghcania, of which I only played the demo.


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2012 10:53    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
I have a feeling it will still be better than Arghcania, of which I only played the demo.

That shouldn't be too hard. It's impossible to make a worse game than Arcania.
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