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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 11:06    Post subject: Getting an SSD, helplol.
So I'm thinking of getting a Corsair SSD Force Series GT 120GB (http://www.guru3d.com/article/corsair-force-gt-120gb-ssd-review/1).

I was wondering if anyone has tested it and what they think of it, is it oood/bad, any SSD that you would recommend instead of this one?

Also, since I'm a lazy fucker I do not want to re-install windows on it (mostly because of all the settings I've got set up on the fucker). So is there any easy yet good way of cloning the windows partition I already have on my mechanical partition? Surprised

I'd appreciate any advice and thanks in advance. Very Happy


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Or should I get the Intel® SSD 520 Series 120GB instead?
It's just a bit more expensive but some say it's better in the long run. Surprised


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 11:13    Post subject: Re: Getting an SSD, helplol.
Prefetian wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has tested it and what they think of it, is it oood/bad, any SSD that you would recommend instead of this one?

Not instead of this, but as alternatives: Crucial M4, Intel 520. Crucial is a different controller and has an excellent track record with regards to reliability. Intel 520 is also the same SF22xx controller, but it's Intel and therefor extremely well validated.

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Also, since I'm a lazy fucker I do not want to re-install windows on it (mostly because of all the settings I've got set up on the fucker). So is there any easy yet good way of cloning the windows partition I already have on my mechanical partition? Surprised

No Smile

You have to reinstall. Not only to make sure the partition is aligned, but also because there'll be a lot of garbage on your mechanical drive already.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 11:18    Post subject:
Darn it, as I figured that a complete re-install would be crucial. T_T

I see that they have both and M4 and the Intel 520 @ the store. Anyone of these that's "better" than the other? Surprised


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 11:19    Post subject:
stay away from the sanforce all i can say.

crucial m4 (one of the most reliable ssds out in the market)
corsair performance pro (im using it for like 1 month i can recommend this, really good perf. and reliability)
samsung 830 (dont know much about it but i heard its good)
intel 510 (dont know much about it but i heard its good)
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 11:30    Post subject:
Regarding SSDs, how do you guys reckon that an accelerator SSD drive will work?
For the people that aren't in the know, it's an SSD drive that caches stuff that is ran on an mechanical drive (afaik).
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 11:36    Post subject:
Yup, just ordered the Crucial M4 128GB.
It was a bit cheaper and in stock.

Now I'll just have to re-install everything when I get it, also I'll get a new chassi so I'll be moving everything from one box to another (that's going to be a bitch). T_T


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 11:49    Post subject:
I just can't cope with SSDs... I don't like the fact that reading/writing actions have a limit.


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 11:54    Post subject:
What limit m3th0d? The fact that in 5-7 years you might be close to running out of them? As in, roughly the same period the average mechanical drive fails (and will definitely have degraded performance wise)?

It's a load of horseshit that SSDs fail "regularly" or that their lifespan is short. I've been running my two vertexes for respectively 14 and 15 months or so now, neither has degraded one bit in performance and neither has shown any sign of failure. No BSODs, nothing in that time.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 12:00    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
What limit m3th0d? The fact that in 5-7 years you might be close to running out of them? As in, roughly the same period the average mechanical drive fails (and will definitely have degraded performance wise)?

It's a load of horseshit that SSDs fail "regularly" or that their lifespan is short. I've been running my two vertexes for respectively 14 and 15 months or so now, neither has degraded one bit in performance and neither has shown any sign of failure. No BSODs, nothing in that time.


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Anyways, prices are still too steep for me to even waste the slightest thought about getting one. May it be an SSD or HDD (and I urgently need a new one actually) Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 12:11    Post subject:
Well I'm considering replacing one of my Vertexes with an Intel 520 soon, you can buy that if you want; an older V2 60GB, but a perfect drive to try it out on. I'll warn you now though, once you get an SSD... Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 12:33    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 13:08    Post subject:
I quite recently had the "pleasure" of booting into my non-SSD OS partition to check some things out... dear god was it fucking slow. I have completely forgotten how things used to be pre-SSD. It seriously undermines having a top of the line overclocked CPU when the bulk of the time it's your drive that simply holds everything back. Never again! Smile

I am thinking of getting a Vertex 3 in addition to the Vertex 2 I have right now. Not a priority at the moment though, so I'll wait and see what you guys decide is the better SATA3 drive Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 14:06    Post subject:
I used to had 10k Velocity Raptor before getting an SSD and I didn't see much of increase speed when booting windows..was quite dissapointed


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 14:19    Post subject:
besthijacker wrote:
I used to had 10k Velocity Raptor before getting an SSD and I didn't see much of increase speed when booting windows..was quite dissapointed


Well, what kind of SSD, read/write/copy/latency etc.???

Every generation of SSD basically doubled performance from last gen, esp. when comparing last-gen to current-gen where it jumped from ~250-275 to 550+MB/s.


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 14:50    Post subject:
Hmm. I think my SSD is now 1-1.5yrs old. so its ~250

I think i got velocity raptor ~3yrs ago


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 15:15    Post subject:
i can vow for the crucial M4 128gb, very fast, zero issues.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:02    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:52    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Paintface wrote:
i can vow for the crucial M4 128gb, very fast, zero issues.


Is it cheaper than V3 128GB in your country?


as mentioned above, i didnt want to buy the Vertex 3 cause of problems they have ( could be a low percentage but i dont wanna risk it with data ) crucial m4 had near perfect stability reviews and thats why i bought it, maybe its 10mb/s slower than a V3 but when you go from 100mb/s HD to 470mb/s crucial M4 thats the least of my worries.

But you talk about price of course, i would spend the few extra euros on the M4.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 18:58    Post subject:
Only storing crucial data in one place is dumb anyway. Know how Samsung Spinpoints are often lauded for their reliability? Fuck that, had 5 fail on me in 2010-2011, 3 of which were <= 3 months old at time of failure (3 F1's, 2 F3's). You don't want to risk it with data; that implies you only keep that data on that drive and that it's important data. That alone makes it nonsense. Either the data is important and you make sure to keep it in more than one place (if you don't, then congratulations, you are an idiot - so many people I know have lost their goddamn thesis' and what not because it was only stored on their laptop) or the data isn't important and you just find it annoying to reinstall shit *should* it fail Wink

Failures happen with any brand and controller; failure rates reported online are based on data from retailers and not from manufacturer's themselves, so they are far from accurate.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 19:09    Post subject:
How much of a limit would an old P5B (6Gb/s) be? Is it even worth the effort in this case?

OCZ Solid State Drive Agility 3 for 68 euros. Worth the money? The crucial M4 is only ten euros more I see. I assume that's netter since it's the latest gen?
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 19:20    Post subject:
Only a fool would say stay away from Sandforce when Intel is now using them for their top of the line drives.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 19:20    Post subject:
Damn, judging by reviews it would be stupid to buy a small drive. The difference in performance between 60-64GB versions and 240GB versions is between 200-300%. I guess I'll wait untill prices drop.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 19:39    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Damn, judging by reviews it would be stupid to buy a small drive. The difference in performance between 60-64GB versions and 240GB versions is between 200-300%. I guess I'll wait untill prices drop.

Nowhere near that bad, although with the Agility they use "lower quality" NAND (quotes because technically it's not true Razz) so the effect is more pronounced. As a pure bootdrive these drives are perfect though, I'm using a a 30 GB drive in my HTPC (although I must admit I can't remember what it was, Agility 1 I think) Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 19:42    Post subject:
I'd like to go for a Vertex 3 128, but 140 euros is just way over budget. I assume a price drop in the next two months is pretty much out of teh question. The crucial M4 64GB for 78 looks very good though. So will my ancient P5B be too big a bottleneck? Decisions deccisions Sad
Which would be the best 64GB drive to go for now?

edit: I'd be capped at a theoretical 300MB/s and a practical 270MB/s with my mobo Sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 21:23    Post subject:
What you HW pro's think about HyperX? Is it good? I might get it a tad cheaper. Is it worth it?
Or should I go for new Intel?


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 21:34    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
I'd like to go for a Vertex 3 128, but 140 euros is just way over budget. I assume a price drop in the next two months is pretty much out of teh question. The crucial M4 64GB for 78 looks very good though. So will my ancient P5B be too big a bottleneck? Decisions deccisions Sad
Which would be the best 64GB drive to go for now?

edit: I'd be capped at a theoretical 300MB/s and a practical 270MB/s with my mobo Sad


i would save up till you can buy a 128gb drive, it will last you a long time.
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2012 18:12    Post subject:
It's not a question of saving really, I have the money. I just don't want to spend anything above 100 euros on m PC anymore. The used SSD market is also very small since it's all new and shiny Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2012 18:22    Post subject:
I suggest you to consider Samsung 830.


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