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chiv




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 00:59    Post subject: USENET
im going to take another serious look at this given the whole filehost issue with all the hosters becoming so paranoid... i need a reliable way to get my shizzle and people seem to always be recommending them or mentioning them as their go-to for downloads.

so info? suggestions on which provider is best, and you're overall happiness with them, and any other things i should know about them. thanks... because i know nothing about anything to do with this stuff. ive looked at websites in the past, but i kinda forgot anything i learned because i wasnt seriously looking into it, but now i am. pissing about with slow and dwindling filehost uploads... its just gotta go, you know? time to move on.

and yeah new topic. search seems to still be fucked and i dont find anything in my browser history for any previous topics, so yeah...


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 01:04    Post subject:
Astraweb. It's not only one of the fastest and with one of (if not the) longest retention of files around, but it's also really cheap - often found at $10 a month if you can find the deals - and the provider doesn't bend over and take corporate dick up its ass; no censorship or deletion of any files on any groups.

That alone is worth the entry price Very Happy
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chiv




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 01:14    Post subject:
is that what you use?

also is it relatively safe? i mean in terms of being tracked by the man, if you get what i mean. hes always keeping me down.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 01:18    Post subject:
It's a whole lot safer than torrents, as Usenet providers GENERALLY don't keep records of what you download -- and with SSL it's pretty much impossible for anyone to packet sniff you. And yes; I use Astraweb (a lot of people on these boards do, if memory serves me correctly)
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chiv




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 01:29    Post subject:
k thanks. ill probably get it for 1 month and see how i like it. i see it as $15 a month for the unlimited dsl plan - is that the one you can get down to $10? or were you talking about their $10 5mb/s plan?

also whats the selection like? content-wise, is pretty much everything new available pretty quickly? older stuff i can still torrent or use file-hosts so im not that concerned about that stuff.

also what about range of content? im thinking about movies in particular - is it just scene stuff (popular main scene groups), or is there a lot of choice?


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 01:33    Post subject:
dude its 15 bucks give it a go and find out


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 01:34    Post subject:
Aye, the $15/mo is the one I have -- but wifey and I took out a deal many moons ago that gave us Astra for $11 a month and the best thing about Astra? The price you pay when you open the account is the price you continue to pay. Impressive stuff. Every so often they run a $10/mo deal though, so keep looking. You can get pretty much everything new and a huge selection of old (best thing to do is create free accounts on sites such as NZBSRUS and NZBMatrix, then browse for whatever you want) but you'll always have torrents for the older, hard to find, stuff.

~edit~

Lookie Lookie!

http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/kleverig-11.html

Quote:

Unlimited DSL - US$ 11 every month
No Speed Limits
No Download Limits
Exactly the same as Unlimited DSL Plan
You will pay $11 for every month as long as your subscription remains active. We will not raise the price.

* This is a SPECIAL offer. Available for a Limited time only.


^_^
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 02:23    Post subject:
Good, this saves me from making a new thread or digging out the older ones with the malfunctioning search engine;
I'm still with Tweaknews, 4th year now but as of late it really started to suck balls.
I don't know if its me or anyone else has the same problem but the speed is fluctuating horribly for a month now.
At some hours its fine but most of the day I need all 20 connections to even get 8mbit down. (I got the 20mbit subscription)
Also there are alot of error 430 recently (had to dl from 3 crossposts to get undamaged Kingdom of Amalur) and esp. Wii games are "mysteriously" damaged. It was fine the years before..
Atleast its cheap, less than 6€ a month and retention of 900 is acceptable.

btw. I think hitnews is still handing out free 3-day trials, no obligations


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 02:27    Post subject:
A lot of providers are buckling under pressure from Nintendo and removing Nintendo-related warez Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 02:30    Post subject:
Thought so.
Somehow I still managed to get all but two isos (out of over 20!) from usenet.
For the rest I used the Wiiiso torrents.
Thankfully many are posted multiple times and many of the damaged ones I could repair (barely)
Sometimes they removed only so many articles that it was still possible to repair with 1 or 2 blocks left Very Happy
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chiv




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 03:20    Post subject:
thanks for the feedback. ima decided ill sign up to astraweb tonight.


i find myself laughing though.. all this anti piracy stuff has finally driven me to stop my free pirating ways, and spend a bit of money.

probably not quite how they intended though, haha!


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 08:49    Post subject:
Any tutorials on how to get started when you sign up for a provider? I know nothing about usenet. Laughing
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KGen




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 09:38    Post subject:
Thanks for the heads up Sabin, just subscribed myself to try it out.
So, what's the recommended software to use?


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Aeon




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 09:54    Post subject:
You can use Newsleecher.


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Reg67




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 10:28    Post subject:
Been with Astraweb for about 3 yrs now, as stated fantastic service, quite cheap, no problems at all! Go and sign up now! I also use Newsbinpro, might not be the best but I have used it from the start so I am used to the interface.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 10:29    Post subject:
I used Newsleecher before and seemed like the best choice, but later switched to Newsbin Pro. Oddly enough I tried Newsbin before, but still liked Newsleecher better at the time. Can't even remember now what exactly made me switch over. It's pretty good and you get a discount if you are an AstraWeb user (that is if you are willing to pay for the client).

I used this guide back in the day to get myself familiar with the whole thing:
http://www.slyck.com/Newsgroups_Guide
It might be a bit outdated, but the general info is still good.

Basically all you need is a newsreader and a site for getting nzb files (I use NZB Matrix). It's pretty simple with that. It only gets a bit trickier once you actually decide to subscribe to some newsgroups and keep an eye on the updates yourself, which is not really necessary.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 10:53    Post subject:
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KGen




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 11:01    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:
Basically all you need is a newsreader and a site for getting nzb files (I use NZB Matrix). It's pretty simple with that. It only gets a bit trickier once you actually decide to subscribe to some newsgroups and keep an eye on the updates yourself, which is not really necessary.


Thanks, figured it out. Decided to newsleecher + nzbmatrix for now.
One question though, in server settings in newsleecher, how many allowed connections should I use to the server? The default is 1.


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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 11:09    Post subject:
Each provider has its own limits on concurrent connections. Basically you set it as high as you need (within the allowed limits) to max out your speed. I have set mine to 5 or 7, I think. Just set it to a similar number and see where it gets you.. the actual value is not that critical as long as your speeds are fine. I am not aware of any other penalties for setting it too high or too low.
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KGen




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 11:19    Post subject:
Googled it for Astraweb and found out they allow up to 4 connections. Tried it out and it's enough to max my internet connection.
So far works like a charm...though not sure why I need it. Laughing
Generally speaking, private torrent sites are pretty good. Releases are uploaded quickly and the download speed is always maximum for me. Same with rapidshare actually...
Guess I just was curious Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 11:23    Post subject:
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KGen




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 11:27    Post subject:
garus wrote:
What? They allow up to 20 connections.


Dunno, took it from here http://www.news.astraweb.com/faq.html#plans7

Code:
Most news reader software require only 2 connections to function.

We believe that you will not get higher throughput or bandwidth utilization by using more than 4 connections. The main limitations of bandwidth or speed to the news server is the actual physical limitation of your bandwidth to our servers.


Maybe it's about something else though.


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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 11:27    Post subject:
AstraWeb allows 20 connections, not sure where you got your info from Smile
Best source would be AstraWeb's homepage..

As for usefulness... there are quite a few. With private trackers, I imagine you need to keep your ratio up, which requires a decent upload speed, especially if you start leeching 10GB+ files. Many people don't have such connections or may not want to keep it busy with uploading stuff.

Another thing which was quite useful to me, is that usenet providers allow for connections through different ports, including secure connections. Makes it easily possible to get stuff downloaded in public places like libraries for example, since p2p traffic is often either throttled or blocked outright in such places Smile

Edit: The quote you posted... it says they don't see the need to use more than 4, not that they don't allow more Smile
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KGen




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 12:06    Post subject:
The topic of the quote is "Why do you only offer 4 connections?" Smile

Anyway, from what I saw so far the 10 nzb download limit per day is quite annoying on nzbmatrix. On the other hand it's 10$ for 10 years if I understand correctly Shocked


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 12:25    Post subject:
http://www.nzbindex.nl/ should do fine.

Usenet is easier to filter out the bad shit:
- Password protected? Never.
- First to upload games are typically kere.ws
- Always grab the first upload
- Obviously watch the size of whatever you're grabbing.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 13:11    Post subject:
I'm going to have to go ahead and say "Huh??" about there not being any password protected shit uploaded. There's LOTS and it's happened to me quite frequently .. though in all fairness, nowhere as frequent as off filehosts and some torrents Very Happy My preferred combo is Grabit and NZBSRUS/Matrix. RUS are offering a $5/forever promotion at the moment.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 13:16    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
http://www.nzbindex.nl/ should do fine.

Usenet is easier to filter out the bad shit:
- Password protected? Never.
- First to upload games are typically kere.ws
- Always grab the first upload
- Obviously watch the size of whatever you're grabbing.

There are some mofo's who password there shit Sad
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KGen




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 13:37    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
RUS are offering a $5/forever promotion at the moment.


I think it was a 24h promotion that started on the 7th, so it ended by now.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 13:42    Post subject:
Awww, oh well. Keep checking.. they do it VERY often. Same goes for Matrix too; $5/life/10yr thing. Some people balk at paying, as I once did, but honestly; it's five bucks and it'll last you a decade. Hardly unfair - though I know some will scream blue murder about "making money from piracy" - forgetting that running sites and servers costs a fuckton of money >_>
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 13:45    Post subject:
Getting NZBsrus vip shouldn't be all too hard on here Wink

Further if you are going for astraweb, they have a referrer on their page, if you want to support them a little Smile (It's the 10$ deal)


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