New soundcard?
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AnarchoS




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 09:52    Post subject: New soundcard?
I have Audigy 2 zs
Its hard to find support for this card but its still works after 7 years of use.
I don t like the inbuilt sound cards because i noticed that games run better with creative cards, the difference was 10 fps.

Does anyone have a new sound blaster reacon 3d pcie and is there any real improvement over Audigy 2 zs?
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 12:39    Post subject:
There's Auzentech (they use Creative chips if I remember correctly), Asus etc. if you're looking for high quality discrete soundcards. I know nothing about their new post-XFi generation though.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 12:48    Post subject:
depends on your budget, if you can spend a good deal on it i suggest going for the asus xonar ST
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 13:07    Post subject:
The advantage of audigy 2 and older is that they work with the excellent kx drivers, much better then the pos drivers creative make.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 13:38    Post subject:
Would Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD be better than asus xonar ST?

Kamikaze666 wrote:
The advantage of audigy 2 and older is that they work with the excellent kx drivers, much better then the pos drivers creative make.


I read that somewhere too so would it be smart to change this card for a newer one if it still works ok?


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Kamikaze666




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 14:48    Post subject:
Eh what you mean?

The zs is still a good card, and you can do a lot of stuff with the kx drivers, they are meant for audiophiles so theyre good Smile


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 15:12    Post subject:
I'd just stick with the Audigy 2. Doesn't seem much replacing something that isn't broken. One of the better cards creative has ever made, and with the KX driver support it will be hard to beat.

As for a 10 FPS difference I find that hard to beleive. You'd have to have a fairly old motherboard and CPU to see that level of difference, and you'd have to be running 2000/XP.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 15:23    Post subject:
I used to had Audigy 2 zs back in the day
Switched to X-fi Forte, awesome card and Auzentech makes really good card

there ia also asus xonar d1


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 15:25    Post subject:
The fps difference is something like 5 fps with dedicated vs onboard sounds. Onboard sounds uses CPU for sound processing, where dedicated processes them itself (integrated sound processor). Tho if you have something like SB, i doubt it is even 5 fps, maybe 1-2 fps max Very Happy.

Also dont get any Creative card what is made these days, drivers are horrible. Auzentech cards are very nice.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 15:32    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
The fps difference is something like 5 fps with dedicated vs onboard sounds. Onboard sounds uses CPU for sound processing, where dedicated processes them itself (integrated sound processor). Tho if you have something like SB, i doubt it is even 5 fps, maybe 1-2 fps max Very Happy.

Also dont get any Creative card what is made these days, drivers are horrible. Auzentech cards are very nice.


http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=653&page=6

The benchmarks disagree. Not to mention thats an old setup now to boot. On a modern system the difference would negligible.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Nov 2011 00:13    Post subject:
Screw sound cards all together. If you're THAT into sound that you want to drop money into sound. Stray away from the mediocre crap.

Pick up a denon or yamaha receiver and go that route. HDMI 1.4 preferably since it's pure uncompressed sound.

Otherwise, if you must get a sound card, look into HT Omega, they use the C-Media chips which are superior to all that creative garbage

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=HT+Omega&x=0&y=0

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Almost all receivers can be used with computers as long as they have analog input. From there pick up some Polk Audio R150's and you'll have some of the best sound you never thought you'd have.


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Nov 2011 01:01    Post subject:
Isn't the ASUS Xonar Essence STX any good for sound? My onboard sound is not quite cutting it with this mobo Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Nov 2011 04:08    Post subject:
wizarD. wrote:
Isn't the ASUS Xonar Essence STX any good for sound? My onboard sound is not quite cutting it with this mobo Very Happy


get the ST (pci) version if you got the spare PCI slot
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Nov 2011 10:50    Post subject:
Ill stick with audigy 2 for now.

Thnx.


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Nov 2011 15:14    Post subject:
Funny, testing SOUNDcards by framerates ingame Laughing


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AnarchoS




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Nov 2011 07:56    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Funny, testing SOUNDcards by framerates ingame Laughing


When I had an older system the difference was noticeable. Now with new systems graphic cards are the bottlenecks.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Nov 2011 09:14    Post subject:
AnarchoS wrote:
Now with new systems graphic cards are the bottlenecks.



Nop, depends totally on the situation. EVERYTHING can be a bottleneck, depends how your setup is. But it still can be alot of diffrent things, not just GPU.


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Nov 2011 09:47    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
AnarchoS wrote:
Now with new systems graphic cards are the bottlenecks.



Nop, depends totally on the situation. EVERYTHING can be a bottleneck, depends how your setup is. But it still can be alot of diffrent things, not just GPU.


I know that there are other factors too. Very Happy

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