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riptide77




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 21:49    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
I thought the game was going to be shit. Why is everyone suddenly loving it? Sad


Because there's nothing like it out at the moment. The closest thing will be Kingdoms of Amalur but that's out next year. Bethesda's games are good sandboxes anyway. It doesn't matter if the gameplay is crap, you can always explore or roleplay to your heart's content.
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Divvy




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 21:51    Post subject:
Wait, roleplay? You could roleplay in Oblivion?
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 21:54    Post subject:
riptide77 wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
riptide77 wrote:
He seems to have stopped playing after killing the dragon. Or maybe because of all the negative comments of his stream.


He said he's like to switch to Underped 3. This game bored him too much.


Ah well, it's his time.

PS: Your signature is a lie!


Not unless you're a dirty cheap old cheater.

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riptide77




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 21:54    Post subject:
Divvy wrote:
Wait, roleplay? You could roleplay in Oblivion?


In your own head, of course. The game didn't give you that many options in dialogue or quest paths.

edit: have a look here, if you're interested.
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riptide77




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 21:57    Post subject:
@blackeyedboy: but the level exists regardless of whether you cheat or not. *g*

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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 21:57    Post subject:
riptide77 wrote:
Divvy wrote:
Wait, roleplay? You could roleplay in Oblivion?


The game didn't give you that many options in dialogue or quest paths.


If I recall correctly, it actually didn't give you any. Smile

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riptide77




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 21:58    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
riptide77 wrote:
Divvy wrote:
Wait, roleplay? You could roleplay in Oblivion?


The game didn't give you that many options in dialogue or quest paths.


If I recall correctly, it actually didn't give you any. Smile


I haven't touched it in ages. I prefer Morrowind myself. Much more immersive, better atmosphere, more skills...
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 21:59    Post subject:
riptide77 wrote:
@blackeyedboy: but the level exists regardless of whether you cheat or not. *g*


I can only point you in here:

 Spoiler:
 

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riptide77




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:01    Post subject:
And all this time I was thinking of Diablo 2. ROFL

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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:05    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
I thought the game was going to be shit. Why is everyone suddenly loving it? Sad


What everyone? I don't see universal praise for it. If anything, it's more dumbed down than Oblivion.

Risen 2 can't arrive fast enough!
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riptide77




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:08    Post subject:
I'll take what I can get, TBH because Bethesda is one of the very few developers who put out games like this. True, they're derped more and more with every iteration, but there's a glimmer of hope that comes with the modability of the game. Bethesda's internal slogan is probably "Modders will fix it" and they usually do.
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LMLM




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:15    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
If anything, it's more dumbed down than Oblivion.!


How so? I'm not seeing that. Oblivion was dumbed down a whole lot, had bad combat and a generic world. Skyrim looks like a huge improvement in almost every way. I see it as a solid evolution in the series.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:16    Post subject:
You think Skyrim's combat looks great? Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:18    Post subject:
[quote="LMLM"]
Radicalus wrote:
human_steel wrote:
If anything, it's more dumbed down than Oblivion.!


How so? I'm not seeing that. Oblivion was dumbed down a whole lot, had bad combat and a generic world. Skyrim looks like a huge improvement in almost every way. I see it as a solid evolution in the series.


Your troll detector is not working mate.. These guys only bitch and moan but when the game gets released they will still play it for hours and hours. Talk about hypocrites.. Rolling Eyes

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Raap




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:19    Post subject:
riptide77 wrote:
I'll take what I can get, TBH because Bethesda is one of the very few developers who put out games like this. True, they're derped more and more with every iteration, but there's a glimmer of hope that comes with the modability of the game. Bethesda's internal slogan is probably "Modders will fix it" and they usually do.

I disagree. I mean, the mods can be great( or would be, if the majority weren't doing the dickgirl thing), but they practically never change the core game, nor the game mechanics and interface( to a significant degree), and most importantly they don't change the crappy quests and story. Even New Vegas, which I thought was a decent mod for Fallout 3, suffered because of Bethesda's poor engine, UI and gameplay design.

So yeah, the only reason to like Bethesda right now is because of the type of games they make. Because frankly, they kinda suck at everything they do.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:19    Post subject:
OranosTheMighty wrote:
Your troll detector is not working mate.. These guys only bitch and moan but when the game gets released they will still play it for hours and hours. Talk about hypocrites.. Rolling Eyes


Oh you are so very right. Sorry I'm not wearing my cloak of troll detection +10 today.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:19    Post subject:
OranosTheMighty wrote:


Your troll detector is not working mate.. These guys only bitch and moan but when the game gets released they will still play it for hours and hours. Talk about hypocrites.. Rolling Eyes




Yeah, every hater here is actually a huge fan of Derr-Pee-Gees.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:25    Post subject:
Then don't play the game if you don't like it Rolling Eyes like anyone gives a fuck if you play it or not. Rolling Eyes

Not everyone is interested in seeing the same negative things repeated over and over. We got it already. Rolling Eyes

The game is not perfect but it it's not bad either.

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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:29    Post subject:
LMLM wrote:
Radicalus wrote:
If anything, it's more dumbed down than Oblivion.!


How so? I'm not seeing that. Oblivion was dumbed down a whole lot, had bad combat and a generic world. Skyrim looks like a huge improvement in almost every way. I see it as a solid evolution in the series.


Combat is very simplified, if you ask me, especially in comparison to good melee combat systems, like Risen's.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:31    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
LMLM wrote:
Radicalus wrote:
If anything, it's more dumbed down than Oblivion.!


How so? I'm not seeing that. Oblivion was dumbed down a whole lot, had bad combat and a generic world. Skyrim looks like a huge improvement in almost every way. I see it as a solid evolution in the series.


Combat is very simplified, if you ask me, especially in comparison to good melee combat systems, like Risen's.


Risen had good combat? Oh my god..

I loved that game but.. good combat.. haha now I definitely know that you're just trolling or really derp. lol wut

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Kem0sabe




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:33    Post subject:
Let´s just hope it gets a day 1 cracked released, if not... aparently the game is not so good as to demand a "must buy", subjective i know Razz
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Raap




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:39    Post subject:
Ugh, Risen had just as crappy combat as Oblivion. Gothic 1 & 2, now those had decent combat once you understood it. Still, surprising amount of games which can't get it right. They should just copy-paste Blade of Darkness's superb TP combat. Or Messiah of M&M for FP combat.
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Kem0sabe




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:41    Post subject:
Raap wrote:
Ugh, Risen had just as crappy combat as Oblivion. Gothic 1 & 2, now those had decent combat once you understood it. Still, surprising amount of games which can't get it right. They should just copy-paste Blade of Darkness's superb combat. Even Messiah of M&M had decent combat they could copy-paste for first-person.


Messiah of M&M had the best melee combat i have seen in a fantasy inspired game, it would be perfect for an rpg.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:41    Post subject:
Raap wrote:
They should just copy-paste Blade of Darkness's superb TP combat. Or Messiah of M&M for FP combat.

I couldn't agree more! Though, I don't know how well the combat from Severance would work in a RPG. The combat from the first 2 Gothic games was almost as good for me. It wasn't bad like many claim and I don't consider it decent either, it's one of the best combat systems ever actually.

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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:45    Post subject:
OranosTheMighty wrote:
Radicalus wrote:
LMLM wrote:


How so? I'm not seeing that. Oblivion was dumbed down a whole lot, had bad combat and a generic world. Skyrim looks like a huge improvement in almost every way. I see it as a solid evolution in the series.


Combat is very simplified, if you ask me, especially in comparison to good melee combat systems, like Risen's.


Risen had good combat? Oh my god..

I loved that game but.. good combat.. haha now I definitely know that you're just trolling or really derp. lol wut


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 22:57    Post subject:
Great... missed the stream. Fuck this shit.

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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 23:08    Post subject:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/151189/Playing_GTA

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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 23:16    Post subject:
Awesome..thanks man

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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 23:19    Post subject:
omg everything there is soooo shiny

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