[XBOX] x360key - ODD Emulator Loading Games from any USB HDD
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gibman70




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Apr 2011 19:53    Post subject:
try keeping up with developments - as it stands even jtag boxes wont work with the upcoming disc format.

bad luck.
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ITRUK




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Apr 2011 22:31    Post subject:
gibman70 wrote:
try keeping up with developments - as it stands even jtag boxes wont work with the upcoming disc format.

bad luck.


Since when? Not seen any news on this.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Apr 2011 22:32    Post subject:
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BOOMDOOM




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Apr 2011 23:25    Post subject:
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[c4eva] x360key: something better will be out around the same time Smile

JTAG FOR ALL 360's???

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[c4eva] 0225 will feature LT 2.0 – support for XGD3 backups!


Can I get a w00t w00t Cool
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cobALT




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Apr 2011 23:41    Post subject:
BOOMDOOM wrote:
Can I get a w00t w00t Cool

grinhurt
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2011 16:38    Post subject:
Andre Andre we need that quick and before L.A Noire
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BOOMDOOM




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2011 22:02    Post subject:
prices are 100euro or 120USD

Way to much for something that does not do homebrew and can be patched any second by MS.

Source: http://www.x360key.com/buyit
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zilliver69




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Apr 2011 23:07    Post subject:
Gonna wait for the new disk format and some clones:D

100 € is too much:S
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 10:50    Post subject:
BOOMDOOM wrote:
prices are 100euro or 120USD

Way to much for something that does not do homebrew and can be patched any second by MS.

Source: http://www.x360key.com/buyit


you talk out of your ass how the hell are they gonna patch it.. its an emulator it mimics the original drive..
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 11:26    Post subject:
zilliver69 wrote:
Gonna wait for the new disk format and some clones:D

100 € is too much:S


100€ is not bad considering you get all games for free ^_^
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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 12:25    Post subject:
highstuff wrote:

you talk out of your ass how the hell are they gonna patch it.. its an emulator it mimics the original drive..


disabling usb support for thirdparty devices Very Happy
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segobi




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 12:44    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
highstuff wrote:

you talk out of your ass how the hell are they gonna patch it.. its an emulator it mimics the original drive..


disabling usb support for thirdparty devices Very Happy


Very Happy The converter / adapter uses the SATA protocol ... not USB on the xbox360 side..lol...
I don't see MS disabling SATA...rofl

It emulates a DVD Drive via software over SATA and loads its data via usb from an external hdd i think. The Xbox never sees a different device than the emulated DVD Drive.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 12:45    Post subject:
Exactly.. and the "remote" plugs into the device itself via USB, there's no device<>360 USB interaction. I honestly don't see how MS could detect, let alone ban, this device.
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 13:09    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Exactly.. and the "remote" plugs into the device itself via USB, there's no device<>360 USB interaction. I honestly don't see how MS could detect, let alone ban, this device.

the same way as Nintendo DS did, check reading speeds


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 13:12    Post subject:
I hadn't thought of that Neutral
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BOOMDOOM




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 16:30    Post subject:
highstuff wrote:
BOOMDOOM wrote:
prices are 100euro or 120USD

Way to much for something that does not do homebrew and can be patched any second by MS.

Source: http://www.x360key.com/buyit


you talk out of your ass how the hell are they gonna patch it.. its an emulator it mimics the original drive..


Sorry I did not know we had Microsoft employees here on nforce.

People that don't think ms can't detect this emulator Rolling Eyes
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 16:48    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Exactly.. and the "remote" plugs into the device itself via USB, there's no device<>360 USB interaction. I honestly don't see how MS could detect, let alone ban, this device.

the same way as Nintendo DS did, check reading speeds


easy to let the emulator run the game on the same speed as the dvd drive.
these guys are very smart emulating a whole drive is no joke this requires serious skills
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Rofl_Mao




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 22:25    Post subject:
Fuck the Royal Wedding. I want to marry this X360 key! If this thing really works I could just skip replacing my faulty dvd drive for €30. I should have replaced it 4 months ago, but now for once my procrastination has paid off Cool Face

Just one question: isn't the guy who invented this thing going to be completely killed by Microsoft's lawyers...?


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 22:28    Post subject:
Rofl_Mao wrote:

Just one question: isn't the guy who invented this thing going to be completely killed by Microsoft's lawyers...?


No more so than the team who created the WODE for the Wii, which is much the same device.
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Horrordee
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2011 23:50    Post subject:
I think it's nieve to suggest MS won't find a quick method to detect and ban this. Let's not for one minute under-estimate MS, they will do everything in their power and within their ability to identify, ban and probably block such a device working.

So often does the hacking scene get excited, and make statements like "Sony will never be able to protect themselves now we have these keys", however in realistic terms, there is always a way. Yes it'll always be cat and mouse, but to assume that this device will be 100% undetectable and 100% unbannable is a risky assumption.

I'd say it's rather likely people are underestimating what MS will do to counter this.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 03:58    Post subject:
Team WODE Announces XODE - X360 Optical Drive Emulator

we can only say this: "XBOX OPTICAL DRIVE EMULATOR aka XODE" is coming... For now we can not release specific information or images, which would benefit x360key...
after seeing the features and prices x360key we can say that:

1- Fortunately x360key follows the "old" approach of Wode... XODE instead introduces a new way of working really original... we will surprise you.
2- XODE will work on XBOX SLIM since its launch with a 100% support of AP25.
3-Half price then a X360KEY in production!!! thanks the new "original" concept of point 1...

We plan to release a first proof of working at middle/end of may with a nice video working on a X360 SLIM console... and a detailed review near the release of X360KEY... Production will be ready on JULY.

We advise all to wait before place BIG pre-orders from WIIKEY/X360KEY team, it is wise to don't risk too much... after not tell us that there were not warned...

PS: we found time also to update WODE platform, finally the WEB interface is almost ready, we plan to release this feature next week.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 04:29    Post subject:
Nice to see some competition happening , customers will benefit Mr. Green
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Bobbarooskie




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 04:44    Post subject:
NFOAC wrote:
Yeah so no money spending on flashing the console , modders are going to find hard to earn money now Wink


If someone can’t figure out how to flash an xbox then they’re sure as hell aren’t going to be technically inclined to use this device. Modders FTW. Very Happy
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 10:52    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
I think it's nieve to suggest MS won't find a quick method to detect and ban this. Let's not for one minute under-estimate MS, they will do everything in their power and within their ability to identify, ban and probably block such a device working.

So often does the hacking scene get excited, and make statements like "Sony will never be able to protect themselves now we have these keys", however in realistic terms, there is always a way. Yes it'll always be cat and mouse, but to assume that this device will be 100% undetectable and 100% unbannable is a risky assumption.

I'd say it's rather likely people are underestimating what MS will do to counter this.


back in the day starforce and tages did anything in their power to stop emulation..they failed why do you think Microsoft can do it ? while building protections is not even their specialty. they have only 1 way to stop it and that is online activation protection. they couldn'stop drive flashing either its still possible.. and now with this device hackers have more space then an simple mtkflash chip. comparing to ps3 is not a good comparision the ps3 hack consist of exploiting the loaders to get the keys.. this hack does not use an exploit..
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Horrordee
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 11:24    Post subject:
I don't see how you can make statements like that. You have no idea exactly how the device works yet, and thus there is no possible way you can know for sure whether MS can detect / ban it.


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The_Leaf




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 12:09    Post subject:
Well, the only way they can detect if the drive is "fake" or not is to send it commands and see how it responds and if it responds correctly and with the same timing of a "real" drive. While it is probable that the s360key/WODE teams missed something and that MS will be able to detect the oddity, it's almost certaing that it can be fixed via a software update of the drive emulator. So my guess is that after a few updates it will be undetectable by MS. (all of this is just speculation on my part of course).
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 12:11    Post subject:
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice, glad to see some competition! I'm surprised Team WODE are offering a "cheaper" solution, considering their WODE device for the Wii is the same price as the x360key. Still, as long as it does the same job.. I'll be happy.
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segobi




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 12:23    Post subject:
These SATA Drive emulators can sniff any data that is communicated over the lines... thus making it pretty perfect. Im sure it will be a great device after a few updates! Once MS changes anything in their challenge / response we just sniff the data using a real drive...and put that into the emulator Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 12:58    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2011 13:26    Post subject:
c4eva is someway related to Team Executer right ?
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