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TSR69
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Although I think it is not the right thread for it. Drinking coffee and tea too hot (irritates mouth, throat, esophagus and stomach) can be harmful in the long run.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 19:16 Post subject: |
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heck think ill just stick to drinking plain water from now on..
im a big tea drinker and wonder if its way to much I drink and causing issues, I have stomach issues with over active acid in the extreme sense causes alot of discomfart at times.. and coupled with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costochondritis is a bit painful..
Id rather stay away from anything that might help along cancers, but I think as epsilon sudgests its pretty random who it hits, you just goto be aware of when and catch this shit early to get some treatment done..
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fisk
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 19:31 Post subject: |
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I cannot come up with a sensible thing to say, so I'll say. I am sorry for you.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 21:27 Post subject: |
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I'm not reading anything in this thread. Way to personal for me.
@Thread Creator
My deepest sympathies. Do your best to hold it together and spend as much time as possible with your pops  I sincerely wish u and your father the best
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 21:38 Post subject: |
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Gonna keep this short, as this gets too personal for me. Aweful to hear, stay strong mate. Best of luck with the whole process!
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jan 2011 14:58 Post subject: |
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| iconized wrote: | | Although I think it is not the right thread for it. Drinking coffee and tea too hot (irritates mouth, throat, esophagus and stomach) can be harmful in the long run. |
Yes but hot liquids are not carcinogenic.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jan 2011 15:14 Post subject: |
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Phewww  thanks Animal for clearing that up withough me trolling around web.
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jan 2011 23:16 Post subject: |
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Meeeh, my post got deleted ?!
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jan 2011 23:42 Post subject: |
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TSR69
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helvete
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| Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2011 10:06 Post subject: |
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Everything that promotes cell division increases the risk of getting cancer. It's like entering the lottery. The more times you do it the more likely you are to "win". Carcinogens increase the chance of "winning" per draw. Both increase the risk of getting cancer, but they are not the same.
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TSR69
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| Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2011 11:01 Post subject: |
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Carcinogen can also be an agent that causes cancer, heat (radiation) is an physical agent.
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fisk
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 06:54 Post subject: |
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| helvete wrote: | | It's like entering the lottery. The more times you do it the more likely you are to "win". Carcinogens increase the chance of "winning" per draw. Both increase the risk of getting cancer, but they are not the same. |
Actually, no.
The chance of winning does not increase with every time you play. You have the same chance every time. If there's 1 in a 100000000000 chance of winning the first time you play, it will be the same the next, and the next, and so on.
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dsergei
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 07:20 Post subject: |
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Actually, yes.
If you play once - you have only one chance to win, if you play twice you have two and so on.
If you play once and lose, you have NO chance to win, unless you play again. NO chance is less than the original 1 in a 100000000000 chance.
So, while what you are saying is correct, playing more times does increase your chances to win.
That is the logic of helvete's analogy - if you are exposed to a carcinogen - you are "enjoying" an increased chance of getting cancer for the duration. The more times you are exposed - the more periods of increased odds you have.
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Frant
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* Definitely the wrong thread to have this discussion in. Sorry Karmeck.
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helvete
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 19:10 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | helvete wrote: | | It's like entering the lottery. The more times you do it the more likely you are to "win". Carcinogens increase the chance of "winning" per draw. Both increase the risk of getting cancer, but they are not the same. |
Actually, no.
The chance of winning does not increase with every time you play. You have the same chance every time. If there's 1 in a 100000000000 chance of winning the first time you play, it will be the same the next, and the next, and so on. |
When I say win I mean getting a win at the lottery. The chance of winning each single draw is of course the same. From how I described carcinogens I thought that was pretty obvious.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2011 20:48 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | * Definitely the wrong thread to have this discussion in. Sorry Karmeck. |
+1
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jan 2011 10:17 Post subject: |
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I'm sorry to hear that man, be strong .
Isn't there anything that doctors can possibly do ?
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jan 2011 11:07 Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear that... 
Wish your family loads of strength in the coming time.
Lost my mother on the age of 14 on the same dissease... it sucks :'(
Empty again
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Jan 2011 03:50 Post subject: |
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im sorry mate! keep strong... thank your dad for the best of your times... :'(
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Jan 2011 13:01 Post subject: |
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I feel truely sorry for you and wish you all the strength you need for the trying times ahead.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Jan 2011 15:34 Post subject: |
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| helvete wrote: | | Everything that promotes cell division increases the risk of getting cancer. It's like entering the lottery. The more times you do it the more likely you are to "win". Carcinogens increase the chance of "winning" per draw. Both increase the risk of getting cancer, but they are not the same. |
That's an extremely simple representation of cancer. The causal relationship is not that simplistic.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Jan 2011 15:58 Post subject: |
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Sorry mate. hope you have the strength in future times.
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Jan 2011 13:13 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | helvete wrote: | | It's like entering the lottery. The more times you do it the more likely you are to "win". Carcinogens increase the chance of "winning" per draw. Both increase the risk of getting cancer, but they are not the same. |
Actually, no.
The chance of winning does not increase with every time you play. You have the same chance every time. If there's 1 in a 100000000000 chance of winning the first time you play, it will be the same the next, and the next, and so on. |
Correct if we were referring to independent variables in probability theory, we are not.
Every time a cell undergoes mitosis single nucleotide mutations are introduced into the daughter cells, these mutations are cumulative over progressive cell generations until either apoptosis is induced or post-hayflick telomerase mutations occur. Exceptions are germ cells and pluripotent stem cells.
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Jan 2011 13:18 Post subject: |
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ABC news is bullshit.
If you check the dates on any of those studies you'll see they are more then a decade old, like I stated: Coffee = Cancer is an antiquated belief in modern biology.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Jan 2011 15:54 Post subject: |
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ABC news is bullshit.
If you check the dates on any of those studies you'll see they are more then a decade old, like I stated: Coffee = Cancer is an antiquated belief in modern biology. |
When it comes to those links...remember, they are American. A good portion, or atleast a portion of the US population doesn't believe in a) evolution b) that the whole earth isnt more than 6000 years old (read genesis)....thats crazy shit man. To think that everything we have know is dude to a chick eating a fucking apple...
Yet, just last nite on Bill Maher he had 2 guests...one who was Republican Congressman who flatly stated he didn't believe nor could he understand how an animal could emerge from the sea and eventually, over MILLIONS of years turn into us....*smacks head*
The other panel ppl try to tell this guy "Talk to any scientist and they will tell you evolution is indeed real as it is happening right at this moment".
My point being, that 'God will save us if we pray hard enough' mentality interferes in all things currently going on in the US. And unfortuntly, debates that happen in the US happen atleast in Canada and sometimes make their way to England.
So, to quote any American media source as evidence or proof to a point is nuts as its 100 percent biased....now if you quote say a paper done by some known scientist, thats different.
Anyway, ya, wanted to through that in as Ive been really annoyed lately with the level of bias in the media...its worse than it was like 2 or 3 years ago by a lot.
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Sorry.
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My heart and prayers are with you, I hope things get better.
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