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RubberChicken




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 19:33    Post subject:
I believe theres free valium on all entries to every threads on this forum?
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Apr 2005 04:51    Post subject: doesn't work for me...
After starting the game, the screen would be black. I've read that if you wait for 5 minutes it will load. Well, I left it that way before going to bed. The next morning, I still get a black screen!

Worse of all, I can't alt-tab out of the game to kill the damn thing. I ended up having to reboot my computer. Anyone know of a remote-process kill app?
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varj




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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Apr 2005 06:38    Post subject: Re: doesn't work for me...
heckknow wrote:
Worse of all, I can't alt-tab out of the game to kill the damn thing. I ended up having to reboot my computer. Anyone know of a remote-process kill app?
i use http://www.beyondlogic.org/solutions/processutil/processutil.htm though i've never tried it on a remote computer. when crap crashes on my computer i usually still can access my start/run thing, even if i cannot actually see what i write so i try to just enter 'process -k swat4.exe' and hope for the best.
process.exe helped me through mafia since that game always crashed for me, i got a black screen but when pressing ctrl-esc or win i could see parts of the startmenu, like everything but the actual startbutton and what i typed in run
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Apr 2005 12:59    Post subject:
I get that black screen - it's obviously associated with the startup videos. Just press escape a couple of times when you first see it - it should pass.


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goot
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Apr 2005 13:54    Post subject: Re: doesn't work for me...
heckknow wrote:
After starting the game, the screen would be black. I've read that if you wait for 5 minutes it will load. Well, I left it that way before going to bed. The next morning, I still get a black screen!

Worse of all, I can't alt-tab out of the game to kill the damn thing. I ended up having to reboot my computer. Anyone know of a remote-process kill app?


either disable your firewall software, or allow SWAT.EXE in your firewall.

this problem has been discussed heaps on the tech support forums on VU's website
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Saner




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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Apr 2005 14:40    Post subject:
Game rocks, I cant wait to play it in co-op for a while, I like tactical things in co-op when you have to work as a team, makes for a good fun game that you have to think about.


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 01:24    Post subject:
Blah, bad news though. Its hard to catch cheaters online. On the official VU forums there have been many complaints. I remember the trainer from the Beta.

Today I was playing on a cracked server on Barracaded Suspects with alot of people. The game was coming to a close when I had 18 kills and this guy came in. He started to shoot through the walls (no, wasnt lag). If you guys know the Threshold map, the guy was shooting through the walls. His name was Ludacrist. If its one thing that ruins a game its a guy like that. But I guess I shouldnt be complaining all that much considering its very hard on Swat to catch a cheater. Usually they have stuff like head auto aim or reticule freeze. I remember on games like RvS where if you shot the guy, you would actually still see the blood splatter remain on his body. On Swat 4, since it doesnt do it, its kinda hard to tell.

I also was reading up on VU forums where people were complaining about the net code. I dont really think lags a huge problem unless someones hosting on cable or someone comes in with 56k.

If anyone else had any weird experiences with this, post back. I wanted to know if it was just me. I dont see any NFOrce members on the game though.

BTW... if people are looking for a good gun online grab the Colt Carbine and Heavy Armor Smile Also if you press shift to walk before you engage in battle, your reticule closes into more precise aim. That way you dont always have to duck to get your reticule lowered.
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medeirosm




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 13:51    Post subject:
Not sure if anyone has posted this but here is a patch to play game without intro videos

http://www.gameburnworld.com/dl/dl.php?file=SWAT4vAllVersionsNoIntroPatchAll.zip
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viranth




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 13:57    Post subject:
xAiTheHitman wrote:
Blah, bad news though. Its hard to catch cheaters online. On the official VU forums there have been many complaints. I remember the trainer from the Beta.

Today I was playing on a cracked server on Barracaded Suspects with alot of people. The game was coming to a close when I had 18 kills and this guy came in. He started to shoot through the walls (no, wasnt lag).

BTW... if people are looking for a good gun online grab the Colt Carbine and Heavy Armor Smile Also if you press shift to walk before you engage in battle, your reticule closes into more precise aim. That way you dont always have to duck to get your reticule lowered.


Haven't played against any cheaters yet (thank god) but I have noticed some weird stuff happening, which probably is due to the netcode or server lag.

As far as heavy armor and colt, that's a good one, but one bad thing about the heavy armor is that you don't run as fast. Most of the maps requires you to get to a position first so you get the advantage. I also find it pretty easy to just get to a place and then hide in the shadows and darkness. And it doesn't really seem to be much difference in the two armors I think, if you get shot you die most of the time anyways (unless whoever shoots you is a bad shot).
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 14:38    Post subject:
viranth wrote:
xAiTheHitman wrote:
Blah, bad news though. Its hard to catch cheaters online. On the official VU forums there have been many complaints. I remember the trainer from the Beta.

Today I was playing on a cracked server on Barracaded Suspects with alot of people. The game was coming to a close when I had 18 kills and this guy came in. He started to shoot through the walls (no, wasnt lag).

BTW... if people are looking for a good gun online grab the Colt Carbine and Heavy Armor Smile Also if you press shift to walk before you engage in battle, your reticule closes into more precise aim. That way you dont always have to duck to get your reticule lowered.


Haven't played against any cheaters yet (thank god) but I have noticed some weird stuff happening, which probably is due to the netcode or server lag.

As far as heavy armor and colt, that's a good one, but one bad thing about the heavy armor is that you don't run as fast. Most of the maps requires you to get to a position first so you get the advantage. I also find it pretty easy to just get to a place and then hide in the shadows and darkness. And it doesn't really seem to be much difference in the two armors I think, if you get shot you die most of the time anyways (unless whoever shoots you is a bad shot).


I've also seen people use Gal Sub Machine Gun or a AK-47. Not sure why people like the AK-47 since the recoil sucks. Also, it seems that you die in 4 shots no matter if you have heavy armor on or not. The new cheat program thats out now auto aims to the head.
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ORX




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 14:46    Post subject:
I played multyplayer on cracked server and those guys hwo have original copy of game are telling to me that i have "warez bug", they cant see my head and my gun, anyone have patch to fix that problem?????
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Dutchiepower




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 15:50    Post subject:
ORX wrote:
I played multyplayer on cracked server and those guys hwo have original copy of game are telling to me that i have "warez bug", they cant see my head and my gun, anyone have patch to fix that problem?????


Lol, well it looks like the Warez players are in advantage then Very Happy , well done Reloaded Wink
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 17:12    Post subject:
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If you guys know the Threshold map, the guy was shooting through the walls. His name was Ludacrist. If its one thing that ruins a game its a guy like that. But I guess I shouldnt be complaining all that much


Lol , I was complaining I had played that guy on one of the servers (3rd day I got the game i think) you could clearly tell he was cheating I also hate ppl like that.
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 19:07    Post subject: Re: doesn't work for me...
varj wrote:
heckknow wrote:
Worse of all, I can't alt-tab out of the game to kill the damn thing. I ended up having to reboot my computer. Anyone know of a remote-process kill app?
i use http://www.beyondlogic.org/solutions/processutil/processutil.htm though i've never tried it on a remote computer. when crap crashes on my computer i usually still can access my start/run thing, even if i cannot actually see what i write so i try to just enter 'process -k swat4.exe' and hope for the best.
process.exe helped me through mafia since that game always crashed for me, i got a black screen but when pressing ctrl-esc or win i could see parts of the startmenu, like everything but the actual startbutton and what i typed in run


Thanks for the link. I've tried remote task manager (http://www.protect-me.com/rtm/), process explorer (http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml), and symantec's pcanywhere (http://www.symantec.com/pcanywhere/Consumer/index.html). I couldn't get remote task manager to connect to my pc with SWAT running. I got pcanywhere to connect but it could not kill the remote SWAT process.

It seems like there are some process on windows that just cannot be kill -- sort of like zombie processes on unix/linux.

Well, when I press alt-tab, everything is black except for my mouse cursor. Then if I move it around, the cursor changes to the resize window cursor. Then I would resize some windows (since I can't see nothing) -- I feel like a blind bat. LOL.

I've since uninstalled SWAT after getting so frustrated with it.
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 19:10    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
I get that black screen - it's obviously associated with the startup videos. Just press escape a couple of times when you first see it - it should pass.


I could have sworn I tried pressing esc (I may have just pressed it once though). Thanks, I'll try that after I re-install SWAT again. Smile
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 19:12    Post subject:
medeirosm wrote:
Not sure if anyone has posted this but here is a patch to play game without intro videos

http://www.gameburnworld.com/dl/dl.php?file=SWAT4vAllVersionsNoIntroPatchAll.zip


holy mother. you guys rock. I was just thinking about going into the game's ini files or deleting the game movies when I spotted your post about a patch that will do just that. Thanks, dude!
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 19:14    Post subject: Re: doesn't work for me...
goot wrote:
heckknow wrote:
After starting the game, the screen would be black. I've read that if you wait for 5 minutes it will load. Well, I left it that way before going to bed. The next morning, I still get a black screen!

Worse of all, I can't alt-tab out of the game to kill the damn thing. I ended up having to reboot my computer. Anyone know of a remote-process kill app?


either disable your firewall software, or allow SWAT.EXE in your firewall.

this problem has been discussed heaps on the tech support forums on VU's website


I've tried that already. I have zonearlarm. Since I couldn't see sqat when I alt-tab, I when ahead and added the .exe manually to zonealarm. Then I would not allow it access to the internet or as act as a server. Once I did that, I launched swat. But it would get stuck again.
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 20:49    Post subject:
DeMoN064 wrote:
Quote:
If you guys know the Threshold map, the guy was shooting through the walls. His name was Ludacrist. If its one thing that ruins a game its a guy like that. But I guess I shouldnt be complaining all that much


Lol , I was complaining I had played that guy on one of the servers (3rd day I got the game i think) you could clearly tell he was cheating I also hate ppl like that.


Well. You shouldnt normally shout cheater, because you would have no proof. I just know this because I can tell. I played RvS before. The way this game was designed, you cant take a AK-47 while running spead, shoot 3 bullets into 2 targets from far away into their head. When your in running mode, the bullets split. I know how all this is done. In order to make auto aim for a game that doesnt have it you would have to code in ASM. You guys should be happy that this game doesnt have any maps to show player locations. The cheaters would use red line to give away positions on the map to get to you faster.

There are good players on this game, they just get mixxed up with the cheaters. You cant download the trainers publicly either because their private. Their like that until the games out awhile.

Well, the thing about Ludacrist is that he came in sucking real bad, than in 2 games he started to get 20 kills. Good variety of them were from shooting through the walls. Also, they use that auto aim in order to use stun guns on you to arrest you.

Theres only two things you can do since this is on cracked servers. Cheat back. Or you can wait for the new anti-cheat patch to come out, than host. I'm pretty sure everyone on the server has to have it.
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medeirosm




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 21:00    Post subject:
heckknow wrote:
medeirosm wrote:
Not sure if anyone has posted this but here is a patch to play game without intro videos

http://www.gameburnworld.com/dl/dl.php?file=SWAT4vAllVersionsNoIntroPatchAll.zip


holy mother. you guys rock. I was just thinking about going into the game's ini files or deleting the game movies when I spotted your post about a patch that will do just that. Thanks, dude!


Don't mention it.

I'm always on the lookout for the blanked out intro videos Smile
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 23:10    Post subject:
I give up. I've tried the intro patch. I've tried the "repeatedly hit the esc keys." I've tried adding the SWAT4.exe process to zonealarm. Nothing. All I get is a black screen. If I alt-tab, I get my mouse cursor. Whatever I do, I cannot get rid of the black screen (other than a forced reboot -- which makes zonealarm amnesic).

So, I bid farewell to SWAT 4. Props to everyone else who got it to work. For some reason, my 1394 drive isn't working anymore after I installed SWAT 4. Hmmmm... Oh, well. I've spent enough time wasted on trying to get SWAT 4 to run on my machine that I could have spent playing 4 other games combined (or go watch Sin City or go get food and nourishment or go outside and play...).

Thanks for everyone's help.
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Apr 2005 23:15    Post subject:
hell, I'm going to go watch sin city...maybe that'll make me feel better. Smile
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Palegod




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2005 01:12    Post subject:
medeirosm wrote:

Don't mention it.

I'm always on the lookout for the blanked out intro videos Smile


Anytime you see a game with Bink videos for its intros, just replace the .bik files with totally empty textfiles using the same filenames.
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Acid303




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2005 02:00    Post subject:
Swat 4 used to run great here(for a couple of days) but now my computer tends to lock up(monitor goes on standby) or even worse just reboots while playing online... I checked the temperature and stuff(everything is ok). I'm wondering if this is some kinda of protection. Well anyway i'm not playing (cracked) coop anymore cause it sucks to always have to reboot the computer...
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2005 02:23    Post subject:
Acid303 wrote:
Swat 4 used to run great here(for a couple of days) but now my computer tends to lock up(monitor goes on standby) or even worse just reboots while playing online... I checked the temperature and stuff(everything is ok). I'm wondering if this is some kinda of protection. Well anyway i'm not playing (cracked) coop anymore cause it sucks to always have to reboot the computer...


Naw, sometimes Swat 4 minimizes on me when im playing. It gets annoying.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2005 02:30    Post subject:
I still 100% beleive that SWAT4 cracked has worse sounding sound then normal retail. All I know is that when I played the cracked release it didnt have as many channels, and it just sounded lower quality.
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2005 03:15    Post subject:
heckknow wrote:
hell, I'm going to go watch sin city...maybe that'll make me feel better. Smile


oh, my god. That was one awesome movie. If you guys get a chance, go see this movie. I can't say enough about it. The dialogs are the best. This must be the bloodiest/most violent stylized movie I've seen in some time. The scene with the wolf and the cut up kevin still sticks in my mind after leaving the theater.

I was surprised a group of girls didn't just walk out but actually commented that they liked the movie. The, ah-hem, internet version does not do it justice at all. Nothing can replace the huge characters and sound of a movie theater (unless you have your own home movie theater that is). Is is a movie that I'll definitely buy the DVD when it's released (only if they have all the extra scenes).

..and oh, yeah, just to stay on topic, SWAT uninstalled without a problem (but trying to play it is something else -- I'm blaming it on my system; I'll give it a whirl once I build my new 64-bit system in a month or two). Smile
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Acid303




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2005 03:25    Post subject:
Acid303 wrote:
Swat 4 used to run great here(for a couple of days) but now my computer tends to lock up(monitor goes on standby) or even worse just reboots while playing online... I checked the temperature and stuff(everything is ok). I'm wondering if this is some kinda of protection. Well anyway i'm not playing (cracked) coop anymore cause it sucks to always have to reboot the computer...

I'll quote myself just for the fun of it, but after running some tests now i'm pretty sure Swat 4 has a problem with my firewall... Blocking the .exe on firewall leaves me with no lock-ups (but no more online play, figures ...).
If this is the case with the retail version too, then i'm lucky i didn't buy the game cause my firewall will keep running, no matter what Mad
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2005 05:14    Post subject:
Ive had no problems with SWAT4. Online or solo. Had it since it came out aswell...runs great


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zoki_007




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2005 05:21    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Ive had no problems with SWAT4. Online or solo. Had it since it came out aswell...runs great


same Smile runs gr8 for me
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2005 07:03    Post subject:
zoki_007 wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
Ive had no problems with SWAT4. Online or solo. Had it since it came out aswell...runs great


same Smile runs gr8 for me


Me to. My only complaint is the massive ammounts of tking and cheating going on.
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