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| tskiller wrote: | | I just hope the scare tactics don't work - I've read rumors that fluke1 had full lv1 and lv2 control but aren't releasing anything because they are afraid of getting sony up their bums. |
Talk to cyclonefr, he'll know what they're up to =)
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 01:38 Post subject: |
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That's Sony's power alright; fear. I truly believe they know they can't win on any legal grounds, but they can scare people with their money and strong-arm tactics. Now any hackers who WERE looking into more nefarious purposes than Georgie will be backing off, slinking into the shadows and waiting till the heat cools down. Such a shame. In the meantime, Sony will just keep dragging this shit through the courts in the hopes of grinding Geohot into bankruptcy with legal bills --- just like they did to Bleem and Lik-Sang, both of whom "won" their court cases but ended up becoming insolvent.
As for NPDRM? Sadly true  Georgie's tools can MAKE files with NPDRM, but it can't decrypt them (deliberate, per his own admission) so we're kinda stuck for patches/updates at the moment. At least until someone figures out how to retrieve the NPDRM keys (because I don't, for one second, believe Geohot/fail0verflow's announcement that they don't have the metldr key afterall) from metldr. Or, failing that, a way of loading backups on 3.55 as we do on 3.41. Loading without eboot modification = access to game updates.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 01:59 Post subject: |
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Sony needs to lose hard for one, in the past they:
-Killed LikSang
-Killed Sega's Hardware division.
-Killed Bleem
-Killed HD-DVD
-Killed Laptops by making Exploding Batteries.
-Killed PC's with root-kits.
+ Other things I can't remember.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 04:48 Post subject: |
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Hell yeah! I'd have Bill as my lawyer! Bill Shatner is defending his clients. Why is he defending his clients? He wants to hug his clients, he wants to envelop his clients. His clients. His clients. He wants to make love to his clients 
In other news, Georgie's lawyers have issued their official statement to the press;
http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/law-firms-defend-sonys-accusations-against-george-hotz-75976/
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“Make no mistake,” Stewart Kellar, intellectual property attorney and e-ttorney at law™ stated, “this
case is not about Sony attempting to protect its intellectual property or otherwise seek bona fide relief
from the court. Rather, it's an attempt from Sony to send a message that any individual using Sony
hardware in a way Sony does not deem appropriate will result in harsh legal consequences from a
multi-billion dollar company, irrespective of any legal basis or authority for such action.”
Mr. Heidari stated, “While most companies issue firmware upgrades to increase a product's abilities
over its life cycle, Sony has taken the unacceptable and draconian approach of decreasing the PS3's
capabilities by actually destroying a core feature of the PS3. Imagine taking in your car for an oil
change and having the manufacturer remove your car's air conditioner, radio, and half its horsepower
because of fears that other hypothetical individuals might abuse their vehicles. It just doesn't make
any sense, and it's a slap in the face to the consumers that put their support behind the product.” Mr.
Kellar proclaimed, “This case rests on Sony's misguided belief that it has the unfettered ability to
control how consumers use the products they legitimately purchase.”
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 05:21 Post subject: |
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Those are some pretty badass quotes from egohot's lawyers. Seems like he picked some good ones.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 05:34 Post subject: |
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I've not read much of this thread at all.
But how can the hackers win?
They hacked the ps3 for people to pirate games on it.
They released it to the public on how to hack the ps3.
How will they win?
I really cannot see it but, meh, what do i know??
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 05:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 06:13 Post subject: |
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I hope there prosecuted tbh.
The sheer arrogance of them deserves it.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 06:46 Post subject: |
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| Theescapist wrote: | I've not read much of this thread at all.
But how can the hackers win?
They hacked the ps3 for people to pirate games on it.
They released it to the public on how to hack the ps3.
How will they win?
I really cannot see it but, meh, what do i know?? |
Clearly nothing.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 07:36 Post subject: |
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| Theescapist wrote: | I've not read much of this thread at all.
But how can the hackers win?
They hacked the ps3 for people to pirate games on it.
They released it to the public on how to hack the ps3.
How will they win?
I really cannot see it but, meh, what do i know?? |
George Hotz AKA GEOHOTZ did not release anything that would allow people to pirate games.. |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 07:56 Post subject: |
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I'm reporting you all to miaa myself....
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 08:41 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | 3:00:53 PM flukes1: we have full control of lv1 and lv2 from our test application running as a normal pkg under gameos
3:01:21 PM flukes1: the issue with lv2 pokes causing shutdown was caused by some protection added in 3.55
3:01:28 PM flukes1: we found it and disabled it
3:02:15 PM flukes1: i’m not finished
3:02:38 PM flukes1: this is the bit you won’t like: there will be no public release
3:18:58 PM flukes1: as i said, ill release some info
3:20:11 PM flukes1: if you want BMs to run on 3.55 you need to compromise lv1 and lv2
3:22:43 PM flukes1: well I seriously wish I could release all this shit at no personal risk
3:22:53 PM flukes1: I like you guys but it’s not worth it
3:24:16 PM flukes1: if they know it was me, they can still say it was me and prove it by looking though my computer etc etc
3:24:22 PM flukes1: so no, i can’t just release it anonymously
3:24:41 PM flukes1: tbh though
3:25:03 PM flukes1: the only difficult part is disabling lv2 memory protection
3:25:16 PM flukes1: and that information will become public soon
3:34:00 PM flukes1: i’ll post a video on youtube on sunday when I get home
3:36:32 PM flukes1: game running from hdd under multiman
3:40:00 PM flukes1: i’ll do a video, i guess sony can’t kick off about that
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| Quote: | [17:54] <+flukes1> just a heads up: I will shortly be releasing info on how to get complete access to lv1 and lv2 from an application running under gameos
[17:54] <+jbc> sweet.
[17:54] <+flukes1> next few days probably, just want to see what happens with the court saga
[17:54] <@rck`d> flukes1: sploitz?
[17:54] <+flukes1> no
[17:54] <@rck`d> patched firmware? :/
[17:55] <+flukes1> yeah, plus a shitload of userland code
[17:55] <+flukes1> but the fw patches are tested and stable
[17:55] <+flukes1> modifying firmware is extremely easy compared to fully working lv1/lv2 peek poke |
So it looks like he has done it, shame he won't be releasing the firmware/patch though.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 09:07 Post subject: |
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I can understand flukes1,he has lives and he care about them,so we have not right to flame him for his decision,though, as long he will release enough info that will help other hackers to get the level of control he manage to gain,I think it will do the job...
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 09:12 Post subject: |
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The information on how to do it should be enough, I just hope he doesn't decide not to release that either.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 09:57 Post subject: |
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Well if he releases a full tutorial to patch lv1, believe me, patching lv2 will be really easy, I won't be surprised if smbdy brave enough releases a CFw with patched lv2 a few days later.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 10:53 Post subject: |
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Fuck all this open development where IRC logs gets logged and put public. Go the fuck underground or is Flukes out for the same thing as geohot? Sounds promising he will release something though.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 13:07 Post subject: |
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| Gargamel198024 wrote: | | Theescapist wrote: | I've not read much of this thread at all.
But how can the hackers win?
They hacked the ps3 for people to pirate games on it.
They released it to the public on how to hack the ps3.
How will they win?
I really cannot see it but, meh, what do i know?? |
George Hotz AKA GEOHOTZ did not release anything that would allow people to pirate games.. |
pretty sure hotz had a hand in jailbreak now, few things hes said
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 14:11 Post subject: |
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Few things he said, like what?
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 15:20 Post subject: |
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| Theescapist wrote: | | I'm reporting you all to miaa myself.... |
Well i'ma reporting you to him
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backtrace that shit
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 15:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 19:14 Post subject: |
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| Theescapist wrote: | | I'm reporting you all to miaa myself.... |
STFU and go make another video that needs to be viewed 3 times in order for your message to be understood. Your videos suck, douchebag! |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 19:38 Post subject: |
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| dizturbd wrote: | | Theescapist wrote: | | I'm reporting you all to miaa myself.... |
STFU and go make another video that needs to be viewed 3 times in order for your message to be understood. Your videos suck, douchebag! |
wasn't it 300 times?
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2011 20:12 Post subject: |
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on topic or ban
those are the options bitches
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