[XBOX360] Banwave 2010
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goukii
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Nov 2010 13:57    Post subject:
RizL4UK wrote:

and they did stop many from playing backups with the ap 2.5 checks


which, by now, is only implemented/used by Fable III and is on the verge of being completely hacked by the iextreme team. (the specific check on fable 3 has already been successfully hacked).
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Nov 2010 16:19    Post subject:
goukii wrote:
RizL4UK wrote:

and they did stop many from playing backups with the ap 2.5 checks


which, by now, is only implemented/used by Fable III and is on the verge of being completely hacked by the iextreme team. (the specific check on fable 3 has already been successfully hacked).


Could be multi-part dude, you don't know.

Who's the say they can't detect it, but it still requires game code to block it at run time? If they can detect it, doesn't matter if the game blocks you or not, you'll get a nice ban.

I'm not saying I'm right either, just saying, stop making such definitive statements, no one knows for sure. Cool


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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Nov 2010 16:40    Post subject:
Isn't the ban wave coming on 13th ?
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deelix
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Nov 2010 17:05    Post subject:
NFOAC wrote:
Isn't the ban wave coming on 13th ?
its not like its the same date every year. Started 31. oct last year.
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Kommando




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Nov 2010 17:10    Post subject:
RizL4UK wrote:
no need for good reason going by last years It was a massive ban hammer
now kinect is out ms will wait for sales from that and console xbl subs for another year
and they did stop many from playing backups with the ap 2.5 checks


You obviously don't know how this work. They ban to boost sales during the busiest time of the year where they will make the most sales. Thanksgiving is the time of the year where they sale the most stuff. So a ban before Thanksgiving will automatically boost their sales through the roof.

Look at every year they made a ban wave, its always a week or two before Thanksgiving.
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torrentelek




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2010 21:02    Post subject:
It looks like the banwave has been canceled for this year. Or not? :O Very Happy
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Tr00p3r




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Nov 2010 01:17    Post subject:
If I was them (to be a douche), I would start it up Christmas Eve say 10:00 p.m when noones around or Thanksgiving evening when everyone is out drinking, then they come home to BANHAMMER with all the famiily wanting to come over and play online the next day. Heh Razz Figures after 2 decks I go legit and they stop WTF
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CeeJayDee




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Nov 2010 11:09    Post subject:
Anyone know if it'll be alright to play pre-AP25 games online before the banwave? Specifically thinking Super Street Fighter 4 and Alan Wake.

I realise that it's never 100% safe, but if the games are pre-wave 7 and stealthed will I have a decent chance of surviving?

Thanks.
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goukii
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Nov 2010 12:08    Post subject:
CeeJayDee wrote:
Anyone know if it'll be alright to play pre-AP25 games online before the banwave? Specifically thinking Super Street Fighter 4 and Alan Wake.

I realise that it's never 100% safe, but if the games are pre-wave 7 and stealthed will I have a decent chance of surviving?

Thanks.


c4 has not found new checks other than AP25. if you used your console before to play non-ap25 games with LT, then it won't be any different now.

if they have a method to detect the LT firmware without the use of AP25, then they had it for a long enough time and everyone will be banned Very Happy

but i think that is very unlikely, hence the implementation of AP25.

but as u said, it's never 100% safe, it never was.
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armando99
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Nov 2010 15:58    Post subject:
banwave is postponed to next year lol wut
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Nov 2010 16:01    Post subject:
u mean january? Cool Face

pretty sure they wait till c4eva will release his new fw and tell everyone don't worry people it's safe and bams here comes the m$ ban, altho i couldn't care less, as long as i can play off-line
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Safir




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Nov 2010 20:55    Post subject:
Maybe Microsoft has a new gameplan?
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Nov 2010 21:10    Post subject:
maybe LT was really safe and MS was screwed and didnt find a way to flag people these years ? Would be funny, although I stayed away from XBL ever since i got banned last year and eventually bought a jtag to get all my xbox live content i ever wanted !


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Safir




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Nov 2010 21:24    Post subject:
Yes, fingers crossed. Maybe there only defence is performing the AP25 check.
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RizL4UK




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Nov 2010 12:58    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
RizL4UK wrote:
no need for good reason going by last years It was a massive ban hammer
now kinect is out ms will wait for sales from that and console xbl subs for another year
and they did stop many from playing backups with the ap 2.5 checks


You obviously don't know how this work. They ban to boost sales during the busiest time of the year where they will make the most sales. Thanksgiving is the time of the year where they sale the most stuff. So a ban before Thanksgiving will automatically boost their sales through the roof.

Look at every year they made a ban wave, its always a week or two before Thanksgiving.


You obviously don't know how this work Laughing ........ yes i did know ms did a banwave almost every november But i did doubt they would do a banwave this november
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BOOMDOOM




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Nov 2010 21:27    Post subject:
Safir wrote:
Yes, fingers crossed. Maybe there only defence is performing the AP25 check.


uhm... no...

I think they won't do a massive ban hammer like last year. Again we don't know. The only one that knows is microsoft.
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armando99
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Nov 2010 21:47    Post subject:
BOOMDOOM wrote:
Safir wrote:
Yes, fingers crossed. Maybe there only defence is performing the AP25 check.


uhm... no...

I think they won't do a massive ban hammer like last year. Again we don't know. The only one that knows is microsoft.


Its postponed lol wut
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BOOMDOOM




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Nov 2010 00:39    Post subject:
armando99 wrote:
BOOMDOOM wrote:
Safir wrote:
Yes, fingers crossed. Maybe there only defence is performing the AP25 check.


uhm... no...

I think they won't do a massive ban hammer like last year. Again we don't know. The only one that knows is microsoft.


Its postponed lol wut


You know this how??? no1 knows if or when.
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armando99
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Nov 2010 19:40    Post subject:
BOOMDOOM wrote:
armando99 wrote:
BOOMDOOM wrote:


uhm... no...

I think they won't do a massive ban hammer like last year. Again we don't know. The only one that knows is microsoft.


Its postponed lol wut


You know this how??? no1 knows if or when.


I work at m$ Cool Face
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Nov 2010 19:56    Post subject:
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Nov 2010 21:54    Post subject:
u mean like a tech support?! Cool Face
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Ashok0




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 14:24    Post subject:
Ok, so I have an OLD 360 (with VGA only) and my friend flashed it to make it play backups (not sure what firmware it has). If I want to play backups I just put it an Wave 4 boot disk, and after it loads swap it with the backup I want to load. Is it safe for me to update to the new dash? Will the new AP25 checks kill the Wave 4 boot disk from loading backups?
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jazza




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 15:02    Post subject:
Ashok0 wrote:
Ok, so I have an OLD 360 (with VGA only) and my friend flashed it to make it play backups (not sure what firmware it has). If I want to play backups I just put it an Wave 4 boot disk, and after it loads swap it with the backup I want to load. Is it safe for me to update to the new dash? Will the new AP25 checks kill the Wave 4 boot disk from loading backups?

You are f%^d then... You must reflash...
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 18:37    Post subject:
jazza wrote:
Ashok0 wrote:
Ok, so I have an OLD 360 (with VGA only) and my friend flashed it to make it play backups (not sure what firmware it has). If I want to play backups I just put it an Wave 4 boot disk, and after it loads swap it with the backup I want to load. Is it safe for me to update to the new dash? Will the new AP25 checks kill the Wave 4 boot disk from loading backups?

You are f%^d then... You must reflash...


Not necessarily. It might be an Hitachi on 1.51 in which case he/she is ok.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 19:25    Post subject:
yeah without which drive and fw u got there is pretty much nothing to tell, it's like u got some specific problem with your hw without posting your config and ppl do that all the time

that's when i say:
- did u tried turning it off/on again Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 22:06    Post subject:
Finding out what drive you got is simple as hell. And even a simpelton could google that...
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 22:29    Post subject:
not if u have a lite-on, they come in different versions, which can be only identified by a sticker on the drive itself
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 22:35    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
not if u have a lite-on, they come in different versions, which can be only identified by a sticker on the drive itself


Which is pretty simple right? Rolling Eyes
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 22:40    Post subject:
simple would be identifying drive by tray or wire colour, if your definition of simple would be removing warranty sticker and opening box without proper tools, something not simple to someone who asks simple question like can i play this on that Rolling Eyes
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 23:17    Post subject:
To be fair, opening the 360 is one of the easiest tasks in the entire world, it's fucking awesome they made most of it snap apart!

Taking the 360 apart is a complete breeze, and requires no special tools until you're inside and you need the torx shit inside, and even torx is pretty common!


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