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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 11:23    Post subject:
tolanri wrote:
Except that NFS:U was 5th installment of NFS franchise and therefore it can be argued if it can be called roots of the series. Don't take me wrong, NFS:PU was quite good, but for me it was nowhere as fun to play as NFS2,3 or 4.

In NFS:PU I liked tracks and environments most, but driving model was slightly more simulator than an arcade racer.

If NFS:HP 2010 will be anything similar to this ; or this or I will be happy.


NFS: Hot Pursuit is made by the people that made:

It feels like you're in a speed boat race, not a car race. Sad


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 11:24    Post subject:
Yes, it is. That's why I think handling in new NFS looks quite ok as well. If I wanted realism I'd go drive in real life, or at least in some professional simulators. I don't really mind if car in arcade game behaves more like boat on ice or whatever as long as it's fun. But of course games are starting to bore me in singleplayer, so I think this NFS will be more fun playing with friends over Tunngle or something than against AI.


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 11:30    Post subject:
tolanri wrote:
If I wanted realism I'd go drive in real life, or at least in some professional simulators.


Black or white eh? And no, you wouldn't go drive like that in real life, you'd either lose your license or kill yourself. Wink

You think NFS from PU all the way up to and including Most Wanted were akin to a professional simulator? Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 11:36    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
tolanri wrote:
If I wanted realism I'd go drive in real life, or at least in some professional simulators.


Black or white eh? And no, you wouldn't go drive like that in real life, you'd either lose your license or kill yourself. Wink

You think NFS from PU all the way up to and including Most Wanted were akin to a professional simulator? Laughing


No, I definitely liked PU more than any following NFS until today (including Shift, that was too much simulator for me and it shouldn't wear Need For Speed in its name). I didn't really like that hiphop underground "cool" stuff.

Frant wrote:
NFS: Hot Pursuit is made by the people that made:

It feels like you're in a speed boat race, not a car race. Sad


I am not trying to convince you to like this style of game and I respect that there are people who would rather have kind of arcadish game but with at least some feel of realism. Unfortunately you are out of luck.

But there's no need to hate the game because it isn't what you want it to be. I believe it's not a flaw, rather just a design decision. To me and other people unrealistic physics and car handling is what makes it fun.

It's similar case to FPS games, there are more simulator style of games like original OFP, or ArmA. But there are games like Call of Duty. There's no realism in that game, guns don't handle like real life, your health regens over time, you can sprint infinitely, you can take 5 bullets and don't die, etc. It's pure arcade, but people find it fun for some reason. Smile

EDIT: Actually if they removed car mdoels and replaced it with Wipout-like hovering vehicles I wouldn't mind. I liked Wipeout as well as that Star Wars Racer game. At least people would not be bothered that car handling feel unrealistic, and on top of that the game developers/publishers wouldn't have to pay licenes for using reallife-like vehicles in their games. I don't understand why they don't do it actually. It would be win-win situation. Is it because cars on covers sell better? Though it's ironically the car lovers who mostly want realism in game and they refuse buy arcade games. So I really can't understand the reason behind it. Why they don't put in their games some futuristic like hovering vehicles instead? Kids would like it and people who like arcade games like me wouldn't mind it too...
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 15:53    Post subject:
tolanri, I agree with everything you said and I share your view on the NfS series. I also played the X360 demo of this installment and I'm not convinced that it picks up where NfS:HP2 left. Maybe the driving model needs some time to grow on me but from the first glance it reminds me a bit too much of Ridge Racer.
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 18:43    Post subject:
EA's vision for NFS: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-02-the-future-of-need-for-speed-revealed-interview?page=1

They want NFS to be "a brand the consumer can enjoy on an annual basis, and he can look at that game and say, I know this is going to be a high quality entertainment experience."

Their target is the "mass-market audience, and Hot Pursuit is a more mass-market appealing product than Shift. We want to come back with an action adventure type of product on an annual basis"

"Authentic" racers such as Shift only "when the market permits and when we feel ready"


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 19:28    Post subject:
They can keep their streamlined teenager brand for themselves, as long as it doesn't interfere with the upcoming Shift 2:

http://www.virtualr.net/slightly-mad-studios-to-unleash-shift-2/


By the way the first game of the series, The Need for Speed (1994), provided an amazing experience and a more simulative physics engine than the pew pew garbage recently released.

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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 08:53    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
well some ppl like leo, ixigia etc expect police chase have shift physics which will probably won't last one minute Razz

this game is good for what it is and it loox good as well and thats on console with pretty old hw, anyway will see when full demo will be out to test it properly Cool Face

No, I just expect cars to drive like cars, not boats that oversteer so "yo-yo-yo" kiddies can drift to get some stupid nitro. NFS3, NFS4 weren't simulators, but they provided an excellent experience, which is far superior to silly NFS Undertard and Burnout. Burnout at least has an excuse, it is, or rather was at first, about the crash physics and mechanics. But this NFS has no excuse.
BTW, both NFS1 and NFSPU had cop chases, and had quite good driving physics. So your point is even mooter. A racing game with Shift physics and cops could have worked.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 11:13    Post subject:
I like racing games that provide some genuine challenge. So drifting at high speeds requires genuine effort rather than being some semi-automated feature without consequences.

Now that's speaking within the context of it simply being a game. I'm not going to pretend like I know what drifting a Supra or [insert random sports car] is like in real life so I don't want to say it needs to be "realistic." I just want a game where successful driving requires a learning curve; moves I have to execute on my own rather than simply feeling like features I activate.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 11:21    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
A racing game with Shift physics and cops could have worked.


then they had to abandon all power ups and include only dive under your car maneuver lol wut
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 13:31    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
then they had to abandon all power ups and include only dive under your car maneuver lol wut

OMFG! Console tards with 3sec attn span will find it boring if there are no xplosions! lol wut
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 13:34    Post subject:
Speaking of racing games I'm gonna go give GRID another try.

I played it about a year ago and because I don't have a steering wheel or gamepad it wasn't very comfortable.

There was this race in Italy I think, took me 15 tries until I finally took first place.

I was so happy. Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 17:09    Post subject:
This better be at least as good as Most Wanted. Mad
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 18:50    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
This better be at least as good as Most Wanted. Mad

That's not that difficult at all actually. And yet so many fail at that. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 14:31    Post subject:


Marketing guys have been busy Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 14:40    Post subject:
difm wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLQH0Mp_yso

Marketing guys have been busy Very Happy


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Roll retards that make horrible music more like.
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As if those sods from Entourage were any better... lol
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 17:40    Post subject:
difm wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLQH0Mp_yso

Marketing guys have been busy Very Happy


They might have been busy but that was not a good "ad".
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 03:34    Post subject:
Need For Speed Rises Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 04:06    Post subject:
Red.Devil wrote:
Need For Speed Rises Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Review: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-09-need-for-speed-hot-pursuit-review?page=1

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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 04:42    Post subject:
Another review:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=274552

9.0


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 05:46    Post subject:
No cockpits make this a skip...
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 06:11    Post subject:
Itยดs an arcade racer, no need for cockpits.


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 07:24    Post subject:
Pey wrote:
Another review:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=274552

9.0


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 08:29    Post subject:
Weapons? Laughing What, you shoot the popos?
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 08:35    Post subject:
leo forbid there is fun to be had rather than mindlessly driving in circles Cool Face
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