Divinity 2: Flames of Vengeance
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 20:51    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
The thread is still not very long but anyway.

The game engine overhaul as of 1.4 alters the framerate from the previous 60 FPS limit to a 30 FPS limit, likely mostly beneficial for console users as to avoid frequent framerate drops and gains (Making it feel "jerky" and "unsmooth") it does also along with many other engine enhancements completely eliminate stuttering, animation, shadows and physics related issues (Grass and draw distance is a bit on the low-side still but not very noticeable unless you're looking for it.) though many people will find 30 FPS a bit low.
(I have no issues with it, stutter remover for Fallout 3 and Oblivion both relied on the 30 FPS limit, and some game engine tweaks and quirks, to fully remove stuttering there as well, Gamebryo specific issues also complicate stuff a bit with those older variants of the engine.)


As long as it doesn't stutter, the 30 fps cap can be fine for me, since we're not talking about a first person shooter which requires extreme precision and accuracy Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 21:07    Post subject:
That 30 fps cap absolutely kills the game for me. The animations of EVERYTHING is so jerky, it actually hurts my eyes, dont think I can continue.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 21:09    Post subject:
The game wont let me load from a Divinity 2 save says "Outdated save".

Krest wrote:
That 30 fps cap absolutely kills the game for me. The animations of EVERYTHING is so jerky, it actually hurts my eyes, dont think I can continue.


Try turning timesacle animations off, if you haven't already. It worked for me.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 21:14    Post subject:
It is off by default for me. Tried everything and just whenever I run or move my mouse to start looking around, it just feels so jerky.And its not HW limitations because mouse movement feels smooth, its just I dont think those animations were designed to run at 30 fps.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 21:20    Post subject:
Could be, originally there was a 60 FPS limit and it was designed to work with that so what you mention could be a side effect to this solution they've chosen.
(Varies from person to person and on how you perceive things, it looks fine to me but the animations are a bit rough and often exaggerated a bit.)

EDIT: As the option pop-up info menu says the timesplice setting only updates the value you enable it for every few frames instead of every frame, helps performance but reduces visual quality.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 21:23    Post subject:
xDBS wrote:
The game wont let me load from a Divinity 2 save says "Outdated save".


You can't use Div2 saves on DKS mate - they're not compatible. As for me; I'm kinda with Krest on this... the 30fps cap feels "wrong" somehow, definitely unnatural and jerky even though the game is running locked at its cap. Such a shame. I'm hoping some enterprising tweaker finds a way to remove the cap .. or, if enough whining ensues, Larian offer the option to disable it at some point. I'd rather have the "risk" of an uneven framerate jumping between 30 and 60, than not have the option at all and yet still suffer this weird feeling of jerkiness.

Game is still shit hot though Very Happy First time EVER that I've rolled a female character, lol.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 21:51    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
xDBS wrote:
The game wont let me load from a Divinity 2 save says "Outdated save".


You can't use Div2 saves on DKS mate - they're not compatible. As for me; I'm kinda with Krest on this... the 30fps cap feels "wrong" somehow, definitely unnatural and jerky even though the game is running locked at its cap. Such a shame. I'm hoping some enterprising tweaker finds a way to remove the cap .. or, if enough whining ensues, Larian offer the option to disable it at some point. I'd rather have the "risk" of an uneven framerate jumping between 30 and 60, than not have the option at all and yet still suffer this weird feeling of jerkiness.

Game is still shit hot though Very Happy First time EVER that I've rolled a female character, lol.


I think this was also my first game that I've actually beaten using a female.

What does DKS actually add or change in vanilla? Haven't really been paying much attention to this, but Divinity 2 was pretty fun.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 21:57    Post subject:
It's too early into the game to see any noticeable differences right now, but I can say one thing; I don't see any engine improvements or enhancements. Playing the ED campaign from DKS is pretty much, so far, identical to the last major patch Larian released for vanilla ED --- except hobbled with a 30fps cap which makes the game feel jerky even when it's not. I put over 60hrs into ED when it first came out, so if there's anything new; I'll find it Very Happy


Oh and for the newcomers to the game; Kill EVERY rabbit you see. Eventually you'll get a special reward after killing 30 of them Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 22:01    Post subject:
The first noticeable thing in terms of the engine updates would be the airship which is now metallic and very shiny as part of the full texture replacer, it's rather subtle aside from the replaced textures if you already had the 1.2 / 1.3 game and played that since they did a similar thing there, this shininess or increase in specular power also goes for all metallic surfaces and overall the parallax effect, SSAO and sunray shaders are slightly more noticeable.
(Look up trough the trees in the starting area to see the sunray effect for example or check the stone surfaces for the parallax effect, armor detail is also somewhat sharper and especially the metallic variants really shine now such as Richards variant of champion armor.)

All in all it's subtle though so not something you usually spot or think about.

Since the tutorial vids for the fortress sections are gone altogether I imagine this is one place with some of the larger changes and overhauls though I haven't even reached the fjords or done much at all in the valley yet.
(Taking a slight pause from the expansion areas at the moment.)
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 22:36    Post subject:
Great game so far. Im amazed at the feeling of running around a fantasy world, feels more alive.

After playing DeathSpank I cry out "Why dont I have a key to open this beautiful chest!" whenever I see a chest I cant open or dont have the keys for.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Nov 2010 22:40    Post subject:
Vesdarius wrote:
I was wondering whether i should start ego gragonis or the addon? what i mean is are there many changes done to the original content? New quests. new items, new dialogs, maybe some small territories?


Same question from me.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 00:01    Post subject:
so at which lev you start fov?
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 00:42    Post subject:
I.. FUCKING.. LOVE.. THIS.. GAME!!!<3

Played for 4 hours, rolled a wizard and the game is simply AMAZING!!<3 and the graphics and soundtrack are so beautiful!!<3 Started Ego Draconis first. Game works like a charm Very Happy Larian you deserve it!! HERE!! Just take my money Very Happy

gone to watch my nba game with Miami Heat then after the match I'm playing again Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 00:47    Post subject:
Not sure which to go with Archer,Caster or General Melee dude... Is there any need for recommendations with this game?

Nice i change the res to 1440 to see if i can get it in window mode etc and now game wont start keeps crashing Very Happy, gee. im guessing there is also no window modes?

Ok staring with rez change if u got crashes, put game shortcut with desktop composition checked in compatibility options..

but i see it dont window it just a rez change Sad
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 01:10    Post subject:
Hahahahahaha...Gods, I needed that: another Larian game that makes me laugh.

The humour is even better than in the first one.

 Spoiler:
 


Playing FoV now, of course.

Oh, and the strangest of things: the animations seemed, well, strange until I maxed out everything I could. Now it's quite smooth everywhere.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 01:20    Post subject:
So if one had to choose between this and Drakensang..........decisions decisions...
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 01:37    Post subject:
dear GOD, mouse smoothing hurts so much. Another game I won't play because of shitty controls.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 01:51    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
dear GOD, mouse smoothing hurts so much. Another game I won't play because of shitty controls.


Controls are fine here, you'll only be cheating yourself if you ignore this game
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 02:02    Post subject:
^ what Sabin said. This game is wonderful<3 Everything fine here, all on max, game running smooth as butter and I have the impression that the controls are smoother than ED.. well maybe it's just me Very Happy after my nba match can't wait to play again^^ <3

haha btw mind reading dialogues are so funny Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 02:18    Post subject:
Grrrrrrrrr.
Why the FUCK doesn't amazon.co.uk have the PC version available for sale?! Mad Mad Mad


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 02:57    Post subject:
sabin1981 (20:49) wrote:
Installed!! WOOO! Ok, I'm outta here... off to go play =)

Holy fuck... ahahaha... it's 2:45am. I friggin' LOVE this game! Ok, better go take a shower and get some sleep. The sooner I sleep, the sooner I can wake up and return to Rivellon Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 03:15    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
sabin1981 (20:49) wrote:
Installed!! WOOO! Ok, I'm outta here... off to go play =)

Holy fuck... ahahaha... it's 2:45am. I friggin' LOVE this game! Ok, better go take a shower and get some sleep. The sooner I sleep, the sooner I can wake up and return to Rivellon Very Happy


I hear ya,man. It's 4 am and I'm still playing the shi* out of it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 03:47    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
Not sure which to go with Archer,Caster or General Melee dude... Is there any need for recommendations with this game?

Ranger is the easiest class in this game + you have unlimited arrows, you dont have to aim so ... yeah.. its also a bit dull


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 03:50    Post subject:
Larian Studios is working on unlocking the 30 fps cap. Sweet! http://www.larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=423581&fpart=2


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wingR




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 03:53    Post subject:
Is there any way to change the font size?

I really want to play this but I can't read shºt after 5 minutes.
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Fruitcakez




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 03:58    Post subject:
Ya the font size is bad. I had to ware my glasses and I never do that while gaming.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 04:03    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Under \Data\ the Content_Unlocker.xml file in way of this.

<root>
<UnlockedContent>
<Entry>2961897e-50e8-44f1-b6b0-7abb855388c6</Entry>
<Entry>afeab864-1c89-4b2b-9250-ad6c404a3d8a</Entry>
<Entry>de994bcd-6099-412f-8614-8bd8141ef39d</Entry>

<Entry>5da51dab-3cff-4962-9717-d3af82fbc905</Entry>
<Entry>5c57e14e-211b-4a4a-8d1c-b5c02c5dc4ca</Entry>
<Entry>e8e3eff6-2739-4249-8177-be72ee5a875c</Entry>
<Entry>d99b90b4-c27f-427c-b17c-78623ac65741</Entry>
<Entry>61530f58-e528-4f8a-9c14-f3dd55032cdd</Entry>
<Entry>59563e73-6865-467e-9fbd-278a00053565</Entry>
<Entry>3841c59c-527d-40d5-959e-51502688542e</Entry>
<Entry>2961897e-50e8-44f1-b6b0-7abb855388c6</Entry>
<Entry>afeab864-1c89-4b2b-9250-ad6c404a3d8a</Entry>
<Entry>de994bcd-6099-412f-8614-8bd8141ef39d</Entry>
</UnlockedContent>
</root>

Should unlock all extras including those three armor sets, they're listed as the top three with the older bonus at the bottom.
(Some cleaning might be needed, there's four or so sets all in all but various codes for different retailers.)

(Part of the exe, if you search for part of the number it'll find the whole list, hex editor or similar recommended, above is everything though.)


The first 3 codes are double. Wink
BTW, they are the same codes of ED.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 04:07    Post subject:
Yeah I see that I duplicated the three first and three last, also from testing these three work best and with Ego Draconis not all codes did something so they probably used some of those.

Armor requires level 15 and consists of five pieces including a weapon and jewelry so one set might just be a cuirass, helmet and gloves with another being cuirass, legs and helmet and such so they're not complete.

Also will only work for Ego Draconis and not Flames of Vengeance but their rather low-level makes them unsuitable anyway though the set bonuses are pretty strong.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 04:46    Post subject:
Yes, these were the preorder codes at the time of the first release of ED, for example the code "5da51dab-3cff-4962-9717-d3af82fbc905" is the one included with the Collector's/Premium Edition.
The bonus sets are quite useful but also a bit annoying because until you can use them they limit the inventory space.

P.S.: RLD release is in english, italian and spanish, and like someone notes the old saves of ED aren't compatible. Sad

P.P.S.: I just noticed that those codes give different objects with DKS compared to ED 1st edition.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Nov 2010 05:22    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Oh and for the newcomers to the game; Kill EVERY rabbit you see. Eventually you'll get a special reward after killing 30 of them Razz


I did this and lets just say I was level 9 when I got enough.. had to load from an earlier save and have to wait till I level up a bit more

is basically how it went for me Laughing
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