[XBOX360] Nov2010 new dashboard, new checks ?
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deelix
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 19:17    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
deelix wrote:
1.61 boots all waves Smile I should know, sabin did my drive


Actually, I flashed LT for you =) 1.61 is *not* LT .. but yeah, LT has no wave checks.
are you sure? im pretty sure it wasn't out yet :/
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 19:29    Post subject:
I'm pretty sure because it's the firmware I flashed on MINE just a couple weeks before I did yours. LT came out in January this year, so a pretty long time ago Very Happy
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deelix
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 19:43    Post subject:
oh well, nice to know Very HappyVery Happy
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jazza




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 22:15    Post subject:
Working new dashboard no ban. Samsung on 1.61. Jasper chipset.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 22:53    Post subject:
chipset is irrelevant, it's all about your drive
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 23:43    Post subject:
only samsungs don't do AP2.5 ... Benq and Liteons do AAGGGHHH!!! but on BQ you can do a HDD install and it will run


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 23:48    Post subject:
Didn't the banwave follow the update today?
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armando99
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Nov 2010 23:55    Post subject:
i just updated the dashshitboard and now the 360 wont start from the disc, everytime i start it, it goes to the dashboard. Anyone else have this problem? i checked the settings and the startup is on "Disc" but still the motherfucking son of a bitch wont start the disc, ive tried original and other games still the same problem - anyone got a solution?
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 00:26    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
only samsungs don't do AP2.5 ... Benq and Liteons do AAGGGHHH!!! but on BQ you can do a HDD install and it will run


got benq here with 1.5 and it runs fable 3 patched to wave 3 no problem with new dash
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iMaximus




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 00:43    Post subject:
Just a quick question guys...this new ap 2.5 thingy makes the 360 unable to play game from disc alone or disc AND hdd?
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azzman




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 02:11    Post subject:
[c4eva] ap2.5 already defeated, backup fable 3 running fine on beta dash! more data required for analysis!
[**] C4 are you planning on releasing the new LT+ for the old consoles? ie. not slim?
[c4eva] **:yes

[***] c4eva, is it confirmed that current FW and older games will be safe in the new dash?
[c4eva] ***:unknown at present!

[c4eva] dash out?
[c4eva] version please?
[c4eva] so it begins,dash version please?
[****] c4 2.0.12611.0
[c4eva] very good, thx, same version im already working with!

[*****] C4 are you still working on hitas? Will they eventually be released =)?
[c4eva] *****:was working on it , not for a while now!
[*******] c4eva so there will be a LT+ for lite-on and benq drives
[c4eva] yes

[c4eva] ok, have logged the update process, analysing!
[c4eva] logged entire update process, no vendor packets, only standard inquiry and key exchange, so update process safe!
[c4eva] fable 3 not safe! ap2.5 active for that title with new dash!

[c4eva] as soon as we have enough data on ap25 then there will be something
[c4eva] testing more game titles soon for ap25!
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azzman




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 10:58    Post subject:
[+c4eva] just a word of warning on the sed "disc swap" [note x-s: see our x360SED v1.0 news], although this passes the timing check, ap25 also returns data from its check which will be wrong with the wrong disk and will get you banned!

[+c4eva] the trigger for ap25 is still being investigated, but assume a list of titles of some sort or some check, not the xex!
[+c4eva] no ap25 traffic was ever logged with fifa 09

[**] c4eva, it is known yet whether AP2.5 can flag you in an offline state?
[+c4eva] **:yes it can
[+c4eva] console flag

[***] SSv3 just for ap2.5 games or all others?
[+c4eva] ssv3 will be required for any game that activates ap25

[****] c4eva: does that mean old games that dont have ap25, that we burned, as ssv2 are safe?
[+c4eva] ****:yes

[*****] c4eva do you think it is possible that they activate ap25 with a title update on old games?
[+c4eva] possible

[*****] c4eva is it a bad idea playing a retail ap25 game on current fw too ?
[*****] well obv. for new dash
[+c4eva] *****:should be fine
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gibman70




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 11:53    Post subject:
i patch all my games to work (old firmware) - and they all still do after the dash update, even fable 3.

so if you dont care about a live ban dont worry about this ap25 shit.
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ShadowX




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 13:12    Post subject:
So you only get a live ban and not like last year that you console get banned ? meaning save games wont work anymore etc etc ?

Cause I got a BenQ and my box is never online so I play basicly all kind of games even those that dont have ssv2 or svv3 so when i update I do it from USB and if my console get banned for playing online then I dont give a shit as long as I still can install games and play them.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 16:57    Post subject:
Lets make it very clear , if i dont connect to live this new check is not going to affect me ? is it that way ?
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_SiN_
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 16:58    Post subject:
Yes, until the dash update is included on discs, and you need it to start the game..

Dashboard updates has come on discs before, no?


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 16:58    Post subject:
NFOAC wrote:
Lets make it very clear , if i dont connect to live this new check is not going to affect me ? is it that way ?


Seems to be. It's working that way for me right now.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 17:03    Post subject:
Not sure whether dashboard comes with games or not since i have been using PS3 and that does have firmware with games so i assume it to be same, what happens when mandatory dashboard comes out ? My SecData is clean as i have never connected to live
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_SiN_
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 17:08    Post subject:
Well, SecData is pretty much useless information so far, since it changes WHEN the console is banned - so it's going to say "Clean" until you're banned - and when you are banned and the XVAL changes, you know it already.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 17:10    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Well, SecData is pretty much useless information so far, since it changes WHEN the console is banned - so it's going to say "Clean" until you're banned - and when you are banned and the XVAL changes, you know it already.


LMAO!!!!!! So basically; useless program is useless? grinhurt
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_SiN_
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 17:14    Post subject:
Pretty much.. You can supposedly use it to check a machine before you buy it to see if it's banned or not.. Razz


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Weedo




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 18:17    Post subject:
I have a Samsung drive but it's spoofed to a Liteon. Will it skip the new checks or will it fail them?
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 19:24    Post subject:
llloooool. I have dashboard kinect beta version 12416(thats first kinect beta I think) and Jasper Elite 120gb (that came with batman and pure)

I think I have 1.61LT (flashed in march this year)

So after all this talk about 2,5AP check I decided to give FableIII a try. Abgx->imgburn just like every other game. And it works just like charm! No problems. Everything is booting normal.


So Can I update to official 1st nov dash or Should I stay with this 416 beta becouse maybe there was no ap25 yet then?

btw. I am updating everything offline from usb stick


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 19:58    Post subject:
What the fuck.. I updated to the latest dash today, and put in my bought Forza 3 disc - and it gives me Open tray like five fucking times!? It started after a few tries, but this has NEVER happened before, the disc is not scratched or anything.

Unbelievable..


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:16    Post subject:
azzman wrote:
[+c4eva] just a word of warning on the sed "disc swap" [note x-s: see our x360SED v1.0 news], although this passes the timing check, ap25 also returns data from its check which will be wrong with the wrong disk and will get you banned!


[**] c4eva, it is known yet whether AP2.5 can flag you in an offline state?
[+c4eva] **:yes it can
[+c4eva] console flag


Damn... been playing CoD:BO offline and felt very smug about it, now I feel like a dumbass Very Happy Does new CoD use the AP2.5 or not?
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:20    Post subject:
not


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 21:15    Post subject:
gibman70 wrote:
i patch all my games to work (old firmware) - and they all still do after the dash update, even fable 3.

so if you dont care about a live ban dont worry about this ap25 shit.


Sorry for the ignorance, but when u say patch. Do u mean back to SSV1? Or is there something else. I am not fussed about Live and likely have already been flagged for banning, if not banned already, but would like to be able to play the new games with the AP25 check.

Thanks in advance
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gibman70




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 21:52    Post subject:
yea just the patch that came out when the wave 2, wave 3 etc shit started happening. i dont give a fuck about live either - m$ wont get any of my cash, whether from software or from paying for online services.

fuck the ap25 shit and everything else m$ tries. hahahaha FUCK THEM.
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 22:06    Post subject:
I guess there is no point in refusing the official 1st nov update..... we will have to update anyway when 12611 will be included on dvd in games


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 22:23    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
llloooool. I have dashboard kinect beta version 12416(thats first kinect beta I think) and Jasper Elite 120gb (that came with batman and pure)

I think I have 1.61LT (flashed in march this year)

So after all this talk about 2,5AP check I decided to give FableIII a try. Abgx->imgburn just like every other game. And it works just like charm! No problems. Everything is booting normal.


So Can I update to official 1st nov dash or Should I stay with this 416 beta becouse maybe there was no ap25 yet then?

btw. I am updating everything offline from usb stick


noob here, i would like to know this too. I have the early leaked kinect dashboard 2.0.12416.0 and my backup of Fable III plays fine. being a noob, I had someone else flash the firmware & I don't know what type of drive I have. However, the fact that Fable III currently works with my beta kinect dashboard, is it safe to say I can go ahead with the official update? Or is more information like drive/firmware required before that can be determined. thanks Very Happy
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