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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:13    Post subject:
capretto wrote:
JanKowalski82 wrote:

Jesus Christ, it's an effing RPG, dude.


Well, there are many RPGs that don't allow you to pick dialogue choices Razz

Yeah. In fact, the vast majority of RPGs don't allow you to pick what you're gonna say.
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inz




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:16    Post subject:
Those barely deserve to be called crpg's anyway (jrpg's certainly don't qualify).
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Raap




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:22    Post subject:
Just says something about the state of today's RPGs.
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RellioN




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:26    Post subject:
so 9 hours till unlock in the US?
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capretto




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:30    Post subject:
inz wrote:
Those barely deserve to be called crpg's anyway (jrpg's certainly don't qualify).


Careful, because most old RPGs fall in that category too. Yet I highly doubt that games like Magic Candle, Dragon Wars and Wasteland can be defined as "barely rpgs"


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Frantik




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:34    Post subject:
My release date here in Oz has changed overnight from being released a few hours ago to..

Available: 22 October 2010
This game will unlock in approximately 3 days and 3 hours
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inz




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:36    Post subject:
Well *cough cough* the old classics are exempt of course since having dialogue trees wouldn't have been very realistic at the time of their development. I'm sure the devs would've put them in had it been feasible. (phew, a close one, good save there! Cool Face)
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:42    Post subject:
inz wrote:
Well *cough cough* the old classics are exempt of course since having dialogue trees wouldn't have been very realistic at the time of their development. I'm sure the devs would've put them in had it been feasible. (phew, a close one, good save there! Cool Face)

I know right Cool
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inz




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:49    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:

I know right Cool
/goes to rage some more at the popamole on the codex


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Namarie




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:51    Post subject:
Someone need to make Wastelands again with a proper engine.
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:54    Post subject:
Well seems that Avellone doesn't give a damn about that matter. Laughing
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capretto




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2010 23:56    Post subject:
Namarie wrote:
Someone need to make Wastelands again with a proper engine.


I'd give my right arm for a remake or a proper sequel (let's pretend Fountain of Dreams didn't happen). Too bad I'm 99% sure it won't happen.


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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 00:02    Post subject:
inz wrote:
Well *cough cough* the old classics are exempt of course since having dialogue trees wouldn't have been very realistic at the time of their development. I'm sure the devs would've put them in had it been feasible. (phew, a close one, good save there! Cool Face)

Cool Face

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fugazi86
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 00:13    Post subject:
So don't worry , game will be nice.
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Raap




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 00:16    Post subject:
capretto wrote:
inz wrote:
Those barely deserve to be called crpg's anyway (jrpg's certainly don't qualify).


Careful, because most old RPGs fall in that category too. Yet I highly doubt that games like Magic Candle, Dragon Wars and Wasteland can be defined as "barely rpgs"

One could argue those are more like Dungeon Crawlers, which is/was pretty much its own genre. Many of these games didn't even really have text in-game, but instead had you look up in a 'journal' in the game manual. I think the best examples of RPGs are really Planescape, Fallout1&2, Arcanum and the Baldur's Gate series. At any rate, the basis of RPGs was always 'character stats affect how well the player can do certain actions'. That part has diminished greatly over the years, and now we're mostly seeing FPS/TPS games with RPG elements, not RPGs with FPS/TPS elements. Character stats matter far less and player skills matter much more.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 00:23    Post subject:
is it out yet


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 00:39    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
is it out yet


Only in North Korea. Kim Jong Il has got mad hook-upz, yo.
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crossmr




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 00:51    Post subject:
they updated the time to release for Canada. It was supposed to come out At like 2 am Korea time tonight, but now it's been updated to about 4-5pm. So I might get to play it today.


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Sertorius




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 01:09    Post subject:
you bought it !!! I can't believe this !!!
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trucane




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 01:24    Post subject:
Might be a bit early to ask this but does anyone know how the saves will work? I have preordered
the game but it's not out till the 22nd in Europe and to be honest if we do see a release tomorrow I will most likely not keep myself from getting it but it would be nice to be able to keep the saves for when I get to play the legit version
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Smokeythedemon




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 01:27    Post subject:
trucane wrote:
Might be a bit early to ask this but does anyone know how the saves will work? I have preordered
the game but it's not out till the 22nd in Europe and to be honest if we do see a release tomorrow I will most likely not keep myself from getting it but it would be nice to be able to keep the saves for when I get to play the legit version


If the game has GFWL which I'm guessing it does (DLC lol wut) it'll probably be exactly the same as F3.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 01:31    Post subject:
Smokeythedemon wrote:
trucane wrote:
Might be a bit early to ask this but does anyone know how the saves will work? I have preordered
the game but it's not out till the 22nd in Europe and to be honest if we do see a release tomorrow I will most likely not keep myself from getting it but it would be nice to be able to keep the saves for when I get to play the legit version


If the game has GFWL which I'm guessing it does (DLC lol wut) it'll probably be exactly the same as F3.

It doesn´t have GFWL, it has steamworks, meaning if anything, saves will at the least be saved in your "my games" folder and in the steam cloud < see what I did there.
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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 01:42    Post subject:
I will give this game a try, but, honestly, the only interesting thing will be the story for me, because let's be honest, f3's combat system was perhaps the dullest "rpg" combat system to ever exist. It sucked as a shooter too.

Still, millions loved it, because they heard if they like it, they'll have instant old school street cred.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 01:44    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:

Still, millions loved it, because they heard if they like it, they'll have instant old school street cred.


That's unfair.
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 01:45    Post subject:
@sabin1981
Doesn't make it less true though.


sabin1981 wrote:
Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 01:49    Post subject:
Of course it does. You think I played and enjoyed FO3 because of ANY kind of street cred? To label the fans of the game in such a manner is definitely unfair and definitely untrue. Fair enough; I've got one of my own.

Millions hate the game and attack it constantly because they heard that they'll be "cool" if they do, since it's obviously uncool to actually have opinions outside of the "elite" norm.
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W123




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 01:52    Post subject:
Wtf does fallout 3 have to do with "old school street cred?" I bet most people who bought it never even played the originals.
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dissident




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 01:54    Post subject:
The only people trying to get 'instant old school street cred' are those bashing the fans of FO3 with ridiculous generalisations like that one.

I played the original fallouts when they came out and countless old school rpgs yet Fallout 3 is one of my fave games of all time. It had an awesome atmosphere. The combat system was clunky as hell but really thats not what Fallout has ever been about.
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inz




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Oct 2010 01:58    Post subject:
Yeah. Fallout used to be about hitting thieving bastard kids to the groin with a sledgehammer, but Bethesda took that away. They took it all away. Sad
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