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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Sep 2010 23:01    Post subject:
Risen IS Gothic, it's the real Gothic 4, so in that particular statement you could have just said the offspring of Gothic and Fable.

Gothic being the man of the house obviously and Fable being the whiny little bitch Smile
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Sep 2010 23:04    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Risen IS Gothic, it's the real Gothic 4


Agreed. As far as I'm concerned, Risen = Gothic 4 and this pretender can just go die in a hate-filled fire of fanboy rage.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Sep 2010 23:42    Post subject:
Risen was almost just as good as the previous Gothics (1-2) but it did feel shorter and less "fleshed out", the last 2 chapters were awful which was a big let down.

i do think this game has some really nice graphics though.. the forests seems very atmospheric, the little that was shown. That's the only positive i can think of.
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jackasshole




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Sep 2010 23:58    Post subject:
mods.....the only positive I can think of.....

Simple mods could really make this game.....GOTHIC-like

Disable golden glow for interactive items mod
Realistic combat mod
NPC Voice mod Smile
Trainers mod....
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 01:17    Post subject:
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nos




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 02:57    Post subject:
It was definitely similar to Gothic but felt a bit off

Best bit of the demo was noticing a sheep following me around, that made me smile, 20 seconds later it got killed when I was fighting goblins Sad
I want more sheep to follow me around in the full game

Nice sunlight effects

Combat is pretty bad but the picture form when you quit the game that says "Play it your way, from classic to modern ArcaniA can be freely customized to fit your play style" gives me hope that it can be changed

No performance issues here but forcing vsync did make it look a bit smoother, also made my gfx card very loud
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BearishSun




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 04:45    Post subject:
I'm actually surprised for people not liking the graphics. Other than facial textures, they seemed pretty nice to me.

But like I said, it's not gothic and you shouldn't expected it to be so. But me as an rpg fan I'll be glad to dig my claws into it and finish the game, I just dont find it THAT bad.
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DraySpittle




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 05:20    Post subject:
is anyone else getting tons of texture popping?


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 05:27    Post subject:
DraySpittle wrote:
is anyone else getting tons of texture popping?

Yes it's nex-gen.
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xDBS




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 05:34    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
DraySpittle wrote:
is anyone else getting tons of texture popping?

Yes it's nex-gen console game.


fixed Cool Face
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 05:37    Post subject:
xDBS wrote:
Epsilon wrote:
DraySpittle wrote:
is anyone else getting tons of texture popping?

Yes it's nex-gen console game.


fixed Cool Face

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DraySpittle




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 06:03    Post subject:
Laughing


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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 06:20    Post subject:
Who the fuck is that? oO
Gaycules?


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Ashmolly




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 06:53    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Who the fuck is that? oO
Gaycules?


I think its Aquaman lmao
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 11:23    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 12:30    Post subject:
nos wrote:
It was definitely similar to Gothic but felt a bit off

Best bit of the demo was noticing a sheep following me around, that made me smile, 20 seconds later it got killed when I was fighting goblins Sad
I want more sheep to follow me around in the full game

Nice sunlight effects

Combat is pretty bad but the picture form when you quit the game that says "Play it your way, from classic to modern ArcaniA can be freely customized to fit your play style" gives me hope that it can be changed

No performance issues here but forcing vsync did make it look a bit smoother, also made my gfx card very loud

If you walk the sheep to the starting point of the game it stays with the flock. After all the main char is a sheep herder.
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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Sep 2010 16:01    Post subject:
Well, having played the demo, I decided to play gothic 3, which I left out at the time. I installed with the community patch 1.74, and I have to admit, I have such a fucking good time, I can't describe it. I barely grinded through the first hour or so, but then, I fell in love.

It's a shame G4 is going the way it is, because the gothic series is unique, and the best free roamer I have played. I never liked TES series, and the gothic series beats TES in any regard.
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skolo666




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 17:04    Post subject:
just finished demo. i must say I like it. will play it.
time to check Drakensang: River of Time. finally not in german
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Sep 2010 00:01    Post subject:
for fun

rainy weather looks awesome Very Happy
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Sep 2010 03:16    Post subject:
Haven't played the demo yet but from the sounds of things it'll be exactly like I thought based on videos and reading about it.

An average RPG that will sell like hotcakes on consoles and be crowned the best RPG ever by the sheep that finally get to be the shepherd.


Edit: After playing it only thing I can say is Risen is better in every department based on the demo and this game just feels super streamlined. What the fuck is up with the automatic jumping around combat? It doesn't feel like I'm even doing anything.. I swear I felt like the stunlocking pigs of Gothic 3 against goblins and humans.

Oh well I'll give the full demo a go but the impression this one gave wasn't very good.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Sep 2010 18:27    Post subject:
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Vienna, Austria, 22 September 2010; The managing board of publicly-listed JoWooD Entertainment AG yesterday notified the supervisory board that the losses set forth in the Q2 financial statements will probably equal or exceed half the share capital of JoWooD Entertainment AG.

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• Losses amounting to half the share capital likely in Q2 financial statements
• Managing board to call extraordinary shareholders' meeting
• Drawing up of Q2 financials taking longer than expected

The managing board of publicly-listed JoWooD Entertainment AG yesterday notified the supervisory board that the losses set forth in the Q2 financial statements will probably equal or exceed half the share capital of JoWooD Entertainment AG. The main reasons are credits granted in connection with price reductions, returned goods and requirements for value adjustments related to games launched in the market last year.

Accordingly, the managing board will call an extraordinary shareholders' meeting, in the course of which it will present the financial situation of the company as well as strategies and concrete measures for the successful continuation of the business.

The completion of the interim financial statements for the second quarter of 2010, most recently announced for the end of September, will be postponed because material accounting and valuation issues could not be resolved in the course of drawing up the Q2 financials.

The extraordinary shareholders' meeting will proably be held during the first half of November 2010. Until then, the creation of the financial statements should be at a stage sufficient to enable the shareholders' meeting to take appropriate measures on the basis of the Q2 financial statements.

The launch of the game ArcaniA planned for 12 Oktober 2010 is not affected by the above. The game will score with numerous new features and JoWooD expects the new release to contribute significantly to the revenues in the second half of 2010.


some good news Smile hope they fuckin die and give PB the gothic license again
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Sep 2010 18:54    Post subject:
Yeah, that would be awesome if they die. And they should take this turd with them.

And the rain is laughable. Before they had in mind to bring it to the consoles, they showed new technologies where the rain generates puddles, fills them with water. Seems like it got cut out like many other cool things.

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/arcania-gothic-4-rain-and/344377

http://www.worldofgothic.de/screenshots/gothic4/arcania_03.jpg


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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Sep 2010 19:00    Post subject:
IIRC JoWood only have the rights to produce one Gothic game (ArcaniA), the full license is still held by PB. At least that's the last information I have, could be utterly wrong though.

Edit: Seems I was wrong:
http://en.gothic3-game.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=33
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Sep 2010 19:06    Post subject:
Overlord123 wrote:
IIRC JoWood only have the rights to produce one Gothic game (ArcaniA), the full license is still held by PB. At least that's the last information I have, could be utterly wrong though.

Edit: Seems I was wrong:
http://en.gothic3-game.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=33


You're partly wrong. PB could do a Gothic5 but Jowood would have the publishing rights. So, never gonna happen.


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thorgar
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Sep 2010 21:06    Post subject:
Why would PB want to make another Gothic? They told the story they wanted to, now it's time for Risen 2 and 3 Smile

BTW. Risen starts with the info that Gods were banished from the world by man. Sounds suspiciously like the official ending of Gothic 3.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2010 00:50    Post subject:
thorgar wrote:
Why would PB want to make another Gothic? They told the story they wanted to, now it's time for Risen 2 and 3 Smile

BTW. Risen starts with the info that Gods were banished from the world by man. Sounds suspiciously like the official ending of Gothic 3.


They obviously wanted to make another gothic, but had to "settle" for a spiritual, instead of real sequel, because jowood holds the gothic license.
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thorgar
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2010 02:05    Post subject:
BearishSun wrote:
thorgar wrote:
Why would PB want to make another Gothic? They told the story they wanted to, now it's time for Risen 2 and 3 Smile
BTW. Risen starts with the info that Gods were banished from the world by man. Sounds suspiciously like the official ending of Gothic 3.

They obviously wanted to make another gothic, but had to "settle" for a spiritual, instead of real sequel, because jowood holds the gothic license.


Maybe a spin-off, same universe, different hero. I remember reading a while ago, before Gothic 3 came out, that they pushed the story of the nameless hero as fa as they wanted and that it would be the definite end of his adventures.


So who cares about Gothic 4: Idiot Edition,when we have Risen, a much better game?
And a sequel in the works.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2010 02:08    Post subject:
Well that's the thing, the "Nameless Hero" is actually part of Gothic 4. He's King Rhobar III
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Predator_Soul




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2010 04:00    Post subject:
I loved to Gothic series but I think PB should do some work on the Risen graphics engine.

I personally like the low spec requirements but after seeing what an updated engine could do in Arcania and I'm only referring to the graphics part I'm a bit inclined to think that PB could do a lot more on the atmosphere department.

Also you guys keep forgetting that the second part of Risen was utter shit. I don't know what happened there but dropping the entire exploration and RPG part and replacing it with mindless killing was a big let down for me....pretty much what Joowood is doing with Arcania (ending boss battle anyone -> one word "mediocrity"). Hope this isn't a sign for things to come.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2010 04:06    Post subject:
I wouldn't have gone as far as to say "the second part" -- personally I thought chapters 1-3 were spot on, chapter 4 was the grindfest boredom.
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