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human_steel




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:12    Post subject:
Vito can't swim. Sad
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madness




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:12    Post subject:
Neon25 wrote:

I'm driving on Simulation driving mode and it's very like the first Mafia.



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Neon
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:13    Post subject:
BTW, when you start the demo, on the square nearby you can get your shoes shined for 1 buck. Very Happy
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:13    Post subject:
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I didn't have any AA problems at all. Sure you're not playing in 640x480?

Also, game looks better than GTA4 tbh.

Nah I had the same thing with AA. Mentioned it in one of my previous posts. That blurring or Depth of Field effect they do at range causes serious jaggies. Especially bad if you are moving. It looks very similar to running a game on a very low non-native resolution on a LCD screen.


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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:14    Post subject:
Just started downloading them demo.
What I'm kind of interested in is, who here, is willing to hand over 10 extra bucks for the "digital deluxe" version?
I mean digital artbook, digital map, sountrack only in file format.
That's stuff I'd gladly hand over 10 bucks more for a printed artbook, map etc. but only digital?
Pretty weak imo :/


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:14    Post subject:
need timer freeze thing, like just cause 2
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:16    Post subject:
Check out these awesome 640x480 screenshots!!!111

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tbh, the game doesn't look anywhere near as good as GTA4. tbh, the combat isn't as satisfying. tbh, the world feels a lot more stale. tbh, the jaggies need sorting out. tbh, it was a fun game but it's no GTA4.

tbh.


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human_steel




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:20    Post subject:
tbh, I think it looks better than GTA4.
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SMX




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:20    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
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tbh, the game doesn't look anywhere near as good as GTA4. tbh, the combat isn't as satisfying. tbh, the world feels a lot more stale. tbh, the jaggies need sorting out. tbh, it was a fun game but it's no GTA4.

tbh.


i cant believe this ''distant blur no real AA shit'' ! Its killing the whole game for me...
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:21    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
tbh, I think it looks better than GTA4.


Performance-wise it's a damn sight smoother, that's for sure. Visually? I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then Laughing

The demo was fun, no doubt about that, and shooting people in the face with a shotgun NEVER gets old - so I'm looking forward to the full one, without exploration restrictions, where I'll be able to make up my mind once and for all.


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Pl@tinum




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:27    Post subject:
Yeah it looks better than gta (although something is wrong with sabin's pics, i swear it looks better here) and the performance is way better also. But gameplay wise it's way below. Since this is a driving and shooting game, and both are not very well made (at least not to the Gta4/RDR standard), it's feels disappointing. There's also a Vsync ON lag problem like in Dead Space.

P.S: I just thrown a car to the water to see what it did, and it just vanishes. No drowning animation, nothing, just blinks into oblivion. Bah, lazy devs.


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sausje
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:29    Post subject:
Not so bad for my old system.

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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:31    Post subject:
Runs about the same FPS as GTA4 for me, GTA4 has better physics though, more random which make them much more fun (this game seems to act the same way every time you run into someone, for example).

Shooting isnt as good is in GTA4 either. Overall it feels "stiffer", everything from the shooting to the physics and driving. Will not come close to GTA4 because of the much smaller game world, but it'll be a decent game i think Smile characters and story is probably great (not too impressing in GTA4).

Visually it's ok, the textures are very low res as usual Sad The UV-mapping is sloppy at times (very visible seams on some textures).. not that most other games does a better job though Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:31    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
Vito can't swim. Sad
Mafia guys DON'T swim, they sink to the bottom and sleep with the fishes.

In the morning they wake up and bang their head against the coral when they see who they slept with.



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human_steel




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:32    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
human_steel wrote:
Vito can't swim. Sad
Mafia guys DON'T swim, they sink to the bottom and sleep with the fishes.

Laughing
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sausje
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:32    Post subject:
Btw im with Sabin on this one, just look how ugly the mirror is or the poster on the wall...

That shoudnt be in 2010 games tbh.

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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:32    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Not so bad for my old system.

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OLD SYSTEM!? Jeez....
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:34    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
sausje wrote:
Not so bad for my old system.

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OLD SYSTEM!? Jeez....


1 1/2 year ago build is kinda old... usually i buy new hardware upgrades each year. this year i went for some external hardware instead.


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:44    Post subject:
gta 4 is an unplayable and jaggy POS.dont talk about it in a mafia 2 thread Very Happy





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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:45    Post subject:
wow crashes to desktop as soon as i choose "start game"...nice. PCs def. suck. gotta wait for xbox version.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:46    Post subject:
Ok, could someone please answer me, can you guys hear voices in the cutscenes, because I can't, or is that intentional, so they don't spoil part of the story?
Oh, and combat is a lagfest with physx


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:49    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
sausje wrote:
Not so bad for my old system.

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OLD SYSTEM!? Jeez....


1 1/2 year ago build is kinda old... usually i buy new hardware upgrades each year. this year i went for some external hardware instead.


No no no! This is kinda old: Q6600 2.40 Ghz, GF8800GTS(G92) 512Vram, 2 GB DDR2 Ram on Win XP Pro 32 bit Wink

But still I'm getting (Without AA and Physx of course):
Max fps: 100
Average: 44
Minimum: 4,6 (Can't take that seriously, since that must be due to a hd swap or something).

Anyway, WOW! I didn't think that anybody knew how to make a OPTIMIZED and really fun game for the PC anymore Very Happy And release a fine demo too, a demo that actually made me think Fuck! I'm gonna buy this on release day.
I think this will be a fine sequel to the Awesome Mafia game, can't wait for it to release Smile
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inf1kek




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:50    Post subject:
Mine timer patch.
http://filebeam.com/16c96e23916bdc64067360d199dcc3c5

1) apply patch to (\Steam\steamapps\common\mafia ii - public demo\pc\Mafia2.exe)
2) enjoy.
lot of ppl tested it, work fine.


If you want to do it by ur self:
NOP instruction FST DWORD PTR DS:[ESI+4C] ( D9 56 4C ) at 004F5F86.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:50    Post subject:
My bench results on a stock E8400 w/ 5870 @ 950/1220
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This thing is not optimised, at all. 100 FPS difference between minimum and maximum? AA hardly has any effect, both visually and performance-wise? And when I exit the game, it leaves my monitor brightness fucked up, i gotta reapply my resolution to get it fixed. Also notice how everyone pretty much gets 40-45 average, regardless of hardware and resolution? Smoothing in action right there.

Gonna give the game itself a try now, graphically it's not stunning and GTA4 looks better. I also dislike how the smoke effects and such are very minimal without NVIDIA hardware.

Guess with this one the gameplay, voice acting, music and story have to make up for a pretty aweful engine Smile


Edit: People calling this optimised need to get a grip. 100 FPS difference between minimum and maximum, with AA that really has no effect is not optimised. Clearly a lot of resources not being used properly.


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:51    Post subject:
Laurentiu499 wrote:
gta 4 is an unplayable and jaggy POS.dont talk about it in a mafia 2 thread Very Happy


Yeah, Rockstar could really learn something from "2K Czech", This game seems to wipe the floor with GTA4 Very Happy
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madness




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:52    Post subject:
maul_inc wrote:
sausje wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:


OLD SYSTEM!? Jeez....


1 1/2 year ago build is kinda old... usually i buy new hardware upgrades each year. this year i went for some external hardware instead.


No no no! This is kinda old: Q6600 2.40 Ghz, GF8800GTS(G92) 512Vram, 2 GB DDR2 Ram on Win XP Pro 32 bit Wink

But still I'm getting (Without AA and Physx of course):
Max fps: 100
Average: 44
Minimum: 4,6 (Can't take that seriously, since that must be due to a hd swap or something).

Anyway, WOW! I didn't think that anybody knew how to make a OPTIMIZED and really fun game for the PC anymore Very Happy And release a fine demo too, a demo that actually made me think Fuck! I'm gonna buy this on release day.
I think this will be a fine sequel to the Awesome Mafia game, can't wait for it to release Smile


I got AMD Athlon 3000+, r1950pro 256mb, 1gig of ram. You think it would run somehow ? Very Happy
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:52    Post subject:
Have beaten twice the demo so far. As I had been expecting - it's an OK game. It's better than gta4 graphics-wise by a little. As far as the gameplay is concerned, well, nothing too special. Hope the story is captivating at least.
The reviews that have come up by far are correct and markings in the 7/10 or 80% range are pretty deserved, in my opinion. Slightly below GOTY material.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:57    Post subject:
Game looks pretty good, shame about the blurry AA.

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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 12:59    Post subject:
Are the ingame playmates real 50's playmates? Don't think so?
Sweet type of collectible though Very Happy

btw. exited the game and apparently it fucked with my desktop gamma setting O.o


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Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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