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Hierofan
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why don't cheat off others ?
or ask help from others ?
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 10:04 Post subject: |
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| Hierofan wrote: | why don't cheat off others ?
or ask help from others ? |
Because others have no clue as well.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 10:07 Post subject: |
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| Code: | | "@Cramster I have a Physics BS and Math minor thanks to you. ” |
Lol... Man her first employer is in for a surprise.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 10:44 Post subject: |
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Oh my... You know that there are literally tons of free ebooks with solved solutions...
Plus you don't need all the steps, because when you're solving some problems you need to figure out for yourself how to get from one point to another... I mean, that's the whole point of exercises... To figure things out for yourself, to have little AHA!TM moments... 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 10:54 Post subject: |
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Don't most Comp Sci books provide the answers on a CD or such anyway these days for you to compare code ? Seems like a pretty decent E business model though really even if JUST for the book solutions. ~1 client = ~1 book..so covering a moderate amount of topics wouldn't take a huge client base before you broke red.
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 14:58 Post subject: |
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lol i wonder what will happen during exams 
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 17:23 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 17:27 Post subject: |
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that's what happens when you don't learn on a daily basis 
No rly, if you let everything for the last second you'll have a hell of a time... trust me, I've been through that last yr and I needed to take two classes again...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 17:33 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | | No rly, if you let everything for the last second you'll have a hell of a time... |
I've been doing this all my life. And yes, my life is hell  |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:23 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | dingo_d wrote: | | No rly, if you let everything for the last second you'll have a hell of a time... |
I've been doing this all my life. And yes, my life is hell |
See tainted?! See?! What more proof do you need?! 
no offense ducky
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:26 Post subject: |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:26 Post subject: |
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| tainted4ever wrote: | Just bought a subscription for $50 / year. It has step by step solutions to every single problem in every single one of my textbooks, ranging from Statistics to Physics to Computer Science.
All I can say is I am in heaven. 
Carry on |
Pathetic. Truly. |
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deelix
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:31 Post subject: |
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50 dollar a year isn't that much, but I got to agree with Leo :/
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:34 Post subject: |
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It's not about the money. Even if he found the works for free, it's still pathetic. I can see someone wanting to take a peek at some hints for difficult questions and problems, I've done it myself, but when you give up from the get go and just use that crap, that's truly pathetic. And then boasting about it on the internets instead of cowering in shame...  How low can you go?
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:36 Post subject: |
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How so? I'm so lost in the class that I can't do the simplest problems, and the professor doesn't care and doesn't have office hours. Do you want me to fail the class and blow $1000, or buy an online service that actually explains it to me for $50?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:38 Post subject: |
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How about you go to the library and study? Or dig books or internet resources until you find a solution? We've all had the incompetent lecturer who can't teach and had to learn material ourselves. But being fed up in the mouth with the solutions is hardly the answer. Studying on your own is invaluable.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:43 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | How about you go to the library and study? Or dig books or internet resources until you find a solution? We've all had the incompetent lecturer who can't teach and had to learn material ourselves. But being fed up in the mouth with the solutions is hardly the answer. Studying on your own is invaluable. |
I do have library books. And you're right, maybe I should have studied them harder. But seeing these problems and the numbers to solve them makes so much more sense. Now I see how each variable is related to each other, how they transform and affect each other. Instead of a bunch of theory that doesn't make much sense, and that the lecturer never even covered.
You assume I have weeks and weeks to go through this shit. I don't. I have a test in Digital Logic design every Wednesday. I have stats every other Friday. The entire quarter is 5 weeks. Need I draw you a picture of how much I'm cramming here?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:44 Post subject: Re: Cramster.com is the new love of my life |
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| tainted4ever wrote: | It has step by step solutions to every single problem in every single one of my textbooks, ranging from Statistics to Physics to Computer Science.
All I can say is I am in heaven. |
So in all these subjects you are due in a mid-term and have a shitty lecturer?
And OK, so you get the answers to specific questions you have. How does that help you for your mid-term? Or do you plan on learning by heart the method of solving these questions without really understanding? (aka "template" solving) |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:46 Post subject: |
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And instead of studying, you are here boasting how you got solutions to all subjects and all problems and how you are in heaven. Indeed the correct path to understanding the hard material.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:49 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | And instead of studying, you are here boasting how you got solutions to all subjects and all problems and how you are in heaven. Indeed the correct path to understanding the hard material. |
18 hours ago I was looking at the possibility of failing a class. Now I might actually pass. I wanted to exult. Forgive me if you've never had that feeling before.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:52 Post subject: |
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Believe me, I had these in my first and second years before final exams (things are a little different here - midterms are not as important as the final exam). Especially before some of the more convoluted mathematics. Late night at the library with a small gang of students trying to crack the material and get the upper hand. 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 18:58 Post subject: |
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Have you never been to class? How can you not know anyone or not be aware of study groups? Interesting, because you say "others have no clue" but you say you know no others.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 19:05 Post subject: |
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No no, I didn't mean organized study groups - I don't like these either. I meant a bunch of friends getting together for long hours studying - a group that studies. 
Eh why did you edit it out? "PS Study groups aren't that common here..."
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2010 19:08 Post subject: |
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Because after I typed it out I realized how it sounded like a pathetic excuse for not forming a study group. Just because everyone else don't do it doesn't mean I shouldn't do it.
As for why I don't get together with friends to study, there are two very good reasons.
a) Most of my friends haven't taken this stats class yet.
b) It is summer session so all my friends are gone. The only people left on campus who I know also live with me, and they are taking a more basic form of stats.
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