Alpha Protocol
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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 04:01    Post subject:
Is it me or is Master chain shot somewhat overpowered?

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Im now going to start my 2nd playthrough on recruit. Great game.

oh and on Brayko...

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maul_inc




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 09:25    Post subject:
Sohei wrote:
maul_inc wrote:
peter980 wrote:
This might be stretching, but is it possible that all those skills are weapon related?

Since those skills aren't shown if proper weapon isn't equipped.


Not all of them are weapon related, for example, I have the Silent running (basic), Chainshot (basic), Awareness (basic) and Overclock (basic), and all of them has to be activated, so they should show up in this menu.

and yes, I have checked if chainshot will show if I have the pistol equipped, but it doesn't Sad


Have you used the "stuttering fix" posted a few pages back ? If so that might be the problem, i used it for a while and had all sort of crazy shit happening when reloading the game, like guards magically dead, bosses that are invisible etc, removed those changes and no problems, besides the stuttering ofc Razz


I have used the stuttering fix Sad If that is the reason for my problems it's unfortunate. because I can't stand the controls with the stuttering.

Edit: I just tried to start a new game, and with the new character, the skills in the selection menu are back, so I think it's safe to say that there is a bug that can ruin your save games, and that is pretty bad since the only solution right now, is to start a new game.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 10:28    Post subject:
Chain shot IS OP. 6 instant headshots ? Hmmm Very Happy

But so is that invisibility ability, I can do whatever the fuck I want.
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Chibuky




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 12:05    Post subject:
I used stuttering fix and my checkpoint loading time was 5x longer (probably because of preloading all the stuff instead of streaming and bckground loading). I had to revert to stuttery state.

BTW this game is killing me! I keep getting wrong approach with all characters (-1 relationship). Can't wait to find some online guide how to handle dialogues if I want good reputation with NPCs.


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T6chikom6




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 12:20    Post subject:
Damn, I´m trying to like this one, but it has some unacceptable bugs (in the first missions in saudi arabia at least, guards dissapearing after loading checkpoint, AI awesome rofl moments and weird controls).

I think I´ll wait a few months...
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 12:26    Post subject:
disappearing guards happens all the time when reloading a checkpoint, AI wtf moments happen every once in a while (btw. it doesn't get any better than this Very Happy)

But I didn't think the controls were all that horrible (then again, playing with the X360 pad).

finished it last night and I gotta say I am really inclined to play through it again (doesn't happen all that often these days).


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Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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peter980




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 12:28    Post subject:
The part of the fix that forces prebuffering (by removing background streaming) makes game more memory demanding, which can be an issue for computers without lots of ram (like 1 or 2GB).
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twobells
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 15:37    Post subject:
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 15:47    Post subject:
can someone send me their saved game?
I'd like to play it again as veteran, but deleted my saves..

or there a way to unlock that? and the specials for preordering?


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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 16:06    Post subject:
Only pre-order special I know about is the Space Siege game, console version had two weapon packs though.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63505

EDIT: As far as I know those are all part of the PC version by default though.
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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 16:33    Post subject:
Bloody hell is this game a buggy piece of shit of what, buggy animations when you aim he's holding the rifle with his left hand and aiming right Laughing, after you die and load last checkpoint the door that you're supposed to go through remains closed even after you hack security (serkov mission) can't do shit about that and that's just the tip of the iceberg with enemies popping OUT OF NOWHERE and inability to take cover in completely logical locations leaving you under heavy enemy fire, absolutely horrendous controls and camera, to say they've been delaying this crap for so many times, it could have used a year or two of polishing ffs, but hey it's SEEEEEEEEEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

to the bin you go!
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 16:41    Post subject:
I still like it, anyone can send me his veteran enabled saves?


Lutzifer wrote:
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AKofC




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 16:49    Post subject:
I love it.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 16:54    Post subject:
AKofC wrote:
I love it.


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AKofC




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 16:55    Post subject:


Cheers. Now back to my playthrough as the biggest dick in the entire Espionage world. So good.


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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 16:57    Post subject:
Man I soo torn right now, do I play this or piss some miners off in EVE? Too bad I dont have time for both Sad


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 16:57    Post subject:
*laughs* That's my next playthrough as well. I did the first one (sorry StrEagle, I did it on the 360) as a good guy, next time it's going to be as an asshole Very Happy
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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 17:11    Post subject:
funny, i didnt experience any remarkable bugs. some ai quirks and texture popin but nothing serious. Too bad its getting such a bad press.

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Neon
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 18:11    Post subject:
I already did 3 playthroughs, I'm on my 4th currently. Very Happy Each time the ending was different, this game really is amazing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 18:17    Post subject:
Neon25 wrote:
I already did 3 playthroughs, I'm on my 4th currently. Very Happy Each time the ending was different, this game really is amazing.



I'm still at the third mission, but that's because I want to finish GTA IV first (..(!)..I have the game installed since...well, I don't even remember Laughing)
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 19:23    Post subject:
I think I speak for everyone in this following declaration; Alpha Protocol is Marmite. You either love it or hate it, there really doesn't seem to be a middle ground.


Oh and I love Marmite <3
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Immunity




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 19:26    Post subject:
I'm pretty sure there's only 4 ending cut-scenes. The end credits list 4 licensed songs - and a song always plays during the end credits.


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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 19:49    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I think I speak for everyone in this following declaration; Alpha Protocol is Marmite. You either love it or hate it, there really doesn't seem to be a middle ground.


Oh and I love Marmite <3


Well, I'm pretty much in the middle.

I will be honest here, Sabin. I don't doubt you really, really like this game, but I think you and I both are a bit victims of our own hype. I sure know I was.

I wanted this game to be the alpha and omega of FPS/RPGs. The harsh realization of its shortcomings saddened me though.

Gameplay wise I think the game is a bit better than ME2 and kind of like on the same level as ME1. But if you check my posts, you will realize, that I hate the MEs, because they have very shitty RPG mechanics (shallow is the word really). AP is kind of the same, I just like the setting more.

Where AP wins over MEs, is the story and characters. TBH, ME bored be to tears. Liara was the worst of the characters, so cliche, so boring. AP had better characters, and a presentation that far surpasses anything bioware did recently. (of course, I think bioware is a big piece of hype as it is, and no more ... think world of star warscraft).

And I think the comparison with Deus Ex is not valid. I don't know what you remember from that game, but I remember the great level design first and foremost. Very open ended compared to AP. However it had slim character progression. Where the two meet, are the conspiracy themes of the games. However one was an OTT joyride, where I joined my consciousness with an AI, the other is realistic modern day, plausible.

All in all, I like the story, and consider the whole approach originally entertaining, however the gameplay is mediocre shit like ME.

And I am a huge fan of both hardcore PC RPGs (DnD) and hardcore PC shooters (CSS), so no, I didn't play it as it was supposed to be a shooter. If anything, it was too much of a shooter, and too little of an RPG.
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 21:34    Post subject:
On the contrary though I was really disappointed by the game. And I didn't expect anything great, I might add. I literally didn't know the game existed two weeks before the release date. I really tried to give this game a chance. Because gameplay was big meh for me, I decided to use trainer to quickly go through missions only to see the story and dialogues. But I also found the story boring.

Story is matter of opinion, and it is very subjective. I prefer fantasy or Sci-Fi setting in games. But even if the story was great they had better make just CGI movie, with you interacting in conversations and branching the story. Technical aspect of AP is so weak, game-play wise the game is rubbish (I mean those mini games, seriously?) watching is as interactive movie would be much more fun In my opinion.

And I wouldn't even compare this to Mass Effect franchise. Even though Mass Effect has its flaws, it still is polished product, gameplay is fun, technical aspect is good, story for being it a game was superb. Call me Mass Effect fanboy. You probably would be right anyway. Very Happy

But to each his own. If you liked this game, I'm happy for you. Unfortunately I would rate AP even below SCC, which at least had that "mainstream coolness" that made it a bearable game for me.

So AP is truly a game you either hate or love...
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difm




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 21:52    Post subject:
What the hell. In Rome ruins level, where the hell is the third weapon cahce?
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Also, I liked the secret room in old man's mansion Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 22:06    Post subject:
difm wrote:
Also, I liked the secret room in old man's mansion Razz


Care to elaborate? Where is it? Spoiler if necessary.

As for the crates:

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Tydirium




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 22:13    Post subject:
Hi,

Is there a way to change difficulty AFTER having started the campaign? maybe by console or editing a savegame...?

thx
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Vend




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 22:33    Post subject:
Neon25 wrote:
difm wrote:
Also, I liked the secret room in old man's mansion Razz


Care to elaborate? Where is it? Spoiler if necessary.


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djaoni




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 22:38    Post subject:
Just finished my first playthrough and just about nothing happened that I've read in spoilers on here.

A question about the ending.
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difm




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 22:41    Post subject:
Neon25 wrote:

Care to elaborate? Where is it? Spoiler if necessary.

As for the crates:


Ah, thanks. I missed the first one thanks to camera spin Razz

Vend wrote:


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Actually


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I think it took me half of my first playthrough to figure out how to wiev pda. How gay is that Razz


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