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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 13:13    Post subject:
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=388658&st=600

XLiveLess updated for this new patch, also works for the expansion.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 15:29    Post subject:
sweet,so all we need now are some steam rips of the episodes?


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 15:50    Post subject:
It still uses SecuROM (with activation.) and probably some custom triggers as well (Spread around in each episode I would guess.)

LIVE would be a hinder but with a valid LIVE key (Unless it uses the new system with title unique keys.) it would not have been a problem. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 15:59    Post subject:
Live can also be used with an offline profile, so no problem. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 16:04    Post subject:
...this waiting is killin' me Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 16:06    Post subject:
CostelD wrote:
...this waiting is killin' me Very Happy


I think you mean "this wait is killing me" ?


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 16:08    Post subject:
Ronhrin wrote:
CostelD wrote:
...this waiting is killin' me Very Happy


I think you mean "this wait is killing me" ?

I think you meant "I think you meant "this wait is killing me" ?" ?

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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 16:17    Post subject:
you people are really bored Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 16:20    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Ronhrin wrote:
CostelD wrote:
...this waiting is killin' me Very Happy


I think you mean "this wait is killing me" ?

I think you meant "I think you meant "this wait is killing me" ?" ?

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Laughing

Since he hasn't really said what he meant on saying he still means to say what I meant to correct. Cool Face


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 16:34    Post subject:
"he haven't" Scratch Head lol wut
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 16:37    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
"he haven't" Scratch Head lol wut


That was a mistype, it was already ninja edited Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 16:39    Post subject:
$15 at games on demand

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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 16:50    Post subject:
Ronhrin wrote:
iNatan wrote:
"he haven't" Scratch Head lol wut


That was a mistype, it was already ninja edited Laughing

Your ninja edits are like "Beverly Hills Ninja". Laughing You have to edit your post before someone posts so no "edited by ..." appears, that is the way of a true ninja. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Apr 2010 17:28    Post subject:
Damn right, ninjas don't leave traces, pwnt.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 00:50    Post subject:
So is the old razor crack work for some with new patch? Not working for me.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 00:59    Post subject:
akskiller wrote:
So is the old razor crack work for some with new patch? Not working for me.


Working fine for me, I just tested it myself. I got a black loading screen after signing into GFWL in the game, but it works after it's done loading.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 01:10    Post subject:
Oh ,well when I run it with old crack I get error

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[GTAIV] FILE CHECK FIX ERROR !
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Sorry, but this version of gtaiv.exe is not supported .
Supported versions : 1.0.1us, 1.0.2us, 1.0.3us, 1.0.4us, 1.0.0.4
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 01:14    Post subject:
Are you sure you're using razor's 1.0.3.0/1.0.4.0 cracked launcher ?

I don't have the game installed, or I'd show you the file hash for comparison. Because there were other older cracked launchers, too.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 01:27    Post subject:
akskiller wrote:
Oh ,well when I run it with old crack I get error

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[GTAIV] FILE CHECK FIX ERROR !
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Sorry, but this version of gtaiv.exe is not supported .
Supported versions : 1.0.1us, 1.0.2us, 1.0.3us, 1.0.4us, 1.0.0.4


Are you using any mods? Mods won't work with 1.0.6.0
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 01:40    Post subject:
I have that asi loader, removed it and GTA loaded up. I can see that I can pick from GTA 4 or liberty city DLC. When I try to go in MP it says I need to be logged in Rockstar Social Club to play it...wasn't it removed from patch?
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 04:53    Post subject:
akskiller wrote:
I have that asi loader, removed it and GTA loaded up. I can see that I can pick from GTA 4 or liberty city DLC. When I try to go in MP it says I need to be logged in Rockstar Social Club to play it...wasn't it removed from patch?



same thing happened to me, but if i launch rockstar social club application before gta4, i can play mp, so i guess the old razor crack won't work for mp, but only for sp, we need a new crack.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 10:22    Post subject:
How to enable crossfire in gta4? The game only recognizes 1 gpu with the 5970. Do I have to add the command.txt in the game folder and add the videomem string?


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 12:17    Post subject:
Technically Crossfire and probably SLI as well are not really supported due to the demanding nature of the game on CPU and similar thus affecting scaling (Or some explanation like that.) so you'll see very little offloading to a second GPU and none at all if you use multi-Crossfire or SLI. (From what I've read.)

As of the patch GPU usage is lowered further as well so a 5870 is probably more than enough if you have a decent higher-end GPU (Quad or similar and a bit overlocked for lower end models.)

The 10.4 preview drivers (Hardware section) do however add a profile for EFLC.exe but I think it's the same situation as above with GTA4.exe
(Crossfire relying on CPU a lot so scaling is a bit affected in CPU heavy titles or if using a lower-end CPU or low clocked model.)
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 12:34    Post subject:
I do remember adding the command.txt and adding 1.5 to the videomem string and the difference was huge indeed, i dont know why ppl say that enabling SLI is actually worse than not doing it. I had 1792mb as it was supposed and ran flawlessly. I´ll give it a try with the txt file.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 12:39    Post subject:
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I had 1792mb as it was supposed to.


Actually to explain this a bit Crossfire X2 and GX2 (NVIDIA) cards usually have twice the memory so 2GB instead of 1GB and marketed as such but it's "mirrored' or shared between each GPU at 1GB (for example) and not 2GB available to both. Smile

(Usually only matters at very large resolutions or if using high AA samples and similar, this game as well due to being restrictive depending on memory usage though that can be disabled via commandline.txt)

(Parameter you think of being -maxmem 1.5 or some similar value, moves data from GPU to RAM or swap/pagefile as available but it usually works out OK.)
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 12:58    Post subject:
Yeah, i had 1.5 for the 295gtx and 2.1 for the 5970 (2090mb or something in-game). Just tried it a bit and i get 50-60fps, but it stutters badly when turning the camera. Guess í´ll wait check the episodes to see if there´s any performance increase :/

It really pisses me off though, it´s clearly an optimization issue, i cant believe fps drop down to 20 sometimes when using the camera with a i7 @ 4ghz.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 13:03    Post subject:
If that's the hardware you are using then yeah that's a optimization problem.
(v.high shadows with v.high night shadows and high view distance is supposedly the main problems, new shadows look better than the old ones even on medium and high apparently so it might be something to test if it's GPU related, view distance would be somewhat about GPU but probably mostly CPU for further pedestrian and vehicle distance thus calculations.)
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 13:36    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 13:43    Post subject:
Pey wrote:
Yeah, i had 1.5 for the 295gtx and 2.1 for the 5970 (2090mb or something in-game). Just tried it a bit and i get 50-60fps, but it stutters badly when turning the camera. Guess í´ll wait check the episodes to see if there´s any performance increase :/

It really pisses me off though, it´s clearly an optimization issue, i cant believe fps drop down to 20 sometimes when using the camera with a i7 @ 4ghz.


hi i also got the gtx 295 but my gta 4 detect only 880 M .Bhow can you have more MB to gtx 295?


thanks
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 14:11    Post subject:
You have to make a file called "commandline.txt" and add "-availablevidmem 1.5" inside, that´s pretty much it.


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