E8400 or Q6600?
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kalato




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Mar 2010 23:28    Post subject: E8400 or Q6600?
Say's it right in the title

2 Core or a 4 Core, I'm not into my hardware so im not sure, thanks guys.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Mar 2010 23:42    Post subject:
At the moment, there's still very few games taking advantage of more than 2 cores, but both are a good choice Smile

Purely for gaming or do you other cpu-intensive stuff as well?
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 00:07    Post subject:
Gaming only?,DUAL CORE FTW...3D applications?,Quad + Windows 7


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 00:20    Post subject:
more info would be great , are you upgrading a LGA 775 based system? if you decide to go quadcore get a 9550 instead of a 6600 which is quite old
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 01:30    Post subject:
q6600 is slow as a stalagmite, my e8400 gobbles up all games and runs Dolphin awesomely !
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 01:43    Post subject:
q6600@3ghz will rape your e8400@4ghz in games that actually support quad, recently there is a lot of games started to support quad Wink
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 01:48    Post subject:
q6600 stock is at 2.4ghz and e8400 stock is at 3ghz

And which games support quadcore ? By the time quadcore is really utilized, I'll be sporting a newer PC anyway.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 01:55    Post subject:
lol who cares about stock Razz
all games i played recently the new ones use all 4 cores
for example: gta4, bfbc2, bs2, jc2 and list goes on
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:00    Post subject:
I've finished 3 of those 4 games high settings, no sweat. Meanwhile you were checkng out the cpu usage, hoping that finally your cores were getting utilized, poor fellow.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:07    Post subject:
i wasn't checking anything, evga precision tool did it for me Cool Face
srsly doubt about u playing gta4 on high settings with dc but wtv
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:11    Post subject:
Are you high ? Do you think only quads can play gta4 on high ? Laughing

Also, overclock moar, you need it Cool Face

EDIT: Even sabin reinstalled gta4 and got decent speed. Sabin, of all poeple.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:13    Post subject:
no i'm not, i did tested in the same settings dc and qc, quad gave me at least 30 fps boost on highest settings, i don't count distance coz that's limited to vram

whole point in having pc is overclocking and experimenting, turning into console fag with kb/mice are we? Smug

sabin played it on medium Wink
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:16    Post subject:
I most certainly did not. Read moar. I played it with almost everything on HIGH and some things on V.High. Water was on Medium, the rest were High and shadows/filtering were V.High.

All sliders at 33% or thereabouts.



... this is on a dual core.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:16    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
sabin played it on medium Wink

Yeah, but his cpu is halfcore Laughing

EDIT: Holy shit, he barged in here !
/me plays it cool
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:17    Post subject:
that was the whole point actually
sabin last time u bitched about how bad it looked on medium, that's all i remeber
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:21    Post subject:
It does look bad on medium, which is why I didn't PLAY it on medium.

 Spoiler:
 
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:24    Post subject:
pix no workie
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:25    Post subject:
They work just fine here dude. Hosted on tinypic, check see if you've not blocked the site by mistake Smug
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:26    Post subject:
tried in opera, mozilla, ie
they just keep loading but no pix, sorry
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:30    Post subject:
Meh, well they work here so there's nothing I can do to fix it :\ Either way, yes; GTA is definitely more appreciative of quads than duals, but you still can't discount the humble dual core. Not yet. The ratio of Quad-optimised <> non-optimised games is extremely poor, even now, so I still think people will get more mileage out of a high end dual core.

With the settings pictured, I got between 25 and 60fps - usually averaging in the mid 30s. Definitely playable, even more so if you disable FRAPS so you don't keep seeing the framecounter and fretting about the speed.

Mine is the E7200 OCed to 3.6 from its stock of 2.5 and aside from GTA, there really isn't many games that hurt it too much. Of course, if you can afford it; the best solution would be a Q9450/9550 (if you're sticking to 775) or an i5 if you're willing to go all out .. but either way, sticking with an E8400 won't hurt.


BFBC2? Max settings, DX10, 2xAA. 45-60fps.
JC2 Demo? Max settings, DX10.1, 2xAA. 45-60fps.
Bioshock 2? Max settings. 60-75fps.
SupCom 2 Demo? Max settings. 75fps.
AVP3? Max settings. 60-75fps.

So yeah, don't discount the dual core JUST yet. It still has plenty of life left in it, especially when you OC like a champ. E7200/E8400 can do 4Ghz on air with minimal voltage increase ... I'd LOVE to see your Q66 at 4Ghz, hell I'd love to see your Q66 at 3.6Ghz without needing 1.5v+ pumped through it.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:57    Post subject:
Why are pics so small? Smug You back on the prehistoric monitor? Cool Face
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 02:59    Post subject:
Yeah, sadly Sad My missus is painting again, so she's got the WS one as a secondary for her painting apps. I REALLY hate dropping back down to this crappy thing, heh.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 03:07    Post subject:
i can overclock my q8200 3.5 with stock volt and air cooling no problem, just don't need to atm
and i don't don't discount anything, guy asked i answered better quad that dc, if someone thinks otherwise well that's his problem
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 03:10    Post subject:
Stock volts!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Yeah, ok.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 03:13    Post subject:
yup @stock and it stays cool as well
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 03:14    Post subject:
Whatever you say.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 03:15    Post subject:
sure thing dude
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Slizza




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 03:52    Post subject:
4 cores.
The E8400 is right about the same price of the Q9400 both have 6mb cache but one has 2 cores and the other 4.. both will overclock well.

It's a no brainer.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 13:20    Post subject:
The q9400 is more expensive and lower clocked, so will perform worse on *most* apps.

It's a no brainer.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Mar 2010 13:28    Post subject:
here it's only 20 euro difference

q9400-2.6ghz e8400-3ghz

q9400 can easily be overclocked to 3.5 ghz with 1.3v, friend of my has it

q9400 will perform better with apps that will use 4 cores
no brainer
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