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djaoni




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 15:33    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
djaoni wrote:
Obviously they're not gonna make major changes with the amount of people that played the first one and with it being on fucking television in korea. Laughing

Why change something that works? Not like every RTS that gets released has anything new in them, most doesn't.. If they did any major changes in Diablo for example I'd be disappointed.

You wouldn't expect big changes with a direct sequel, but SC is more than a decade old. If you want more of the same then years after the original experience, you're obviously stuck in the past.


I'm saying that change isn't always good. I was never big on Starcraft so I don't mind it being changed but it was obvious it wasn't going to be considering how big it was and still is.
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Smurf_mE




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 15:42    Post subject:
I love it i fun*kin love it.. can w8 for full game.. it remember me on old times when we've played SC1 and War3 for B.net ratings


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pfeiffchen




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 18:15    Post subject:
i just found
Starcraft.2.Beta.PLUS.LazyLaunch.PLUS.MAP.PLUS.AI.MAP-EliteWarez

is this safe and works?
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Wahad




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 18:17    Post subject:
I guess it's nothing more that all that stuff together putted in one torrent package, so yes, it should be safe


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cultor




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 18:18    Post subject:
I tryed dling a replay, but it won't start. I get an temp error wich says that some files are missing and need to be downloaded. Using lazeylaunch 2 off course. Is this not possible? or am I doing something wrong? I really want to see some replays
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HIz




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 18:21    Post subject:
Sorry if the question has been posted, but is there any way to disable the messages that appear in the left screen while your playing ?


Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Reaction
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 18:26    Post subject:
i think someone said they fixed those in a later version of ai, so upgrade your ai


Lutzifer wrote:
and yes, mine is only average
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Ragedoctor




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 18:27    Post subject:
HYScriminal wrote:
Sorry if the question has been posted, but is there any way to disable the messages that appear in the left screen while your playing ?


Such as? If Im correct and you are using either starcracks or Gooses AI you only get one message at start which will fade after 15 seconds or so. The only response afterwards is the one the AI gives when it loses, namely: "gg". Now I dont see how this bothers you :\. If you get other messages though you might want to check your got the proper stuff and not some shitty other mojo.
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pfeiffchen




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 18:46    Post subject:
whats the difference between ai cheating and ai not cheating?

as u can download them here http://darkblizz.org/Forum2/ai-scripts/starcrack-ai-official-thread/ ?
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 19:02    Post subject:
normally everyone gets 5minerals from 1 gather of a drone
a cheating AI gets 10 or more per 1 gather
same with gas etc


Lutzifer wrote:
and yes, mine is only average
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HIz




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 19:04    Post subject:
The messages that appear in the left are about what the player/AI does.
When his going to attack the message appears, when his retreating the messages appear, etc. . But this is not the annoying part.The annoying part is that the messages fill all of my screen.

First time i downloaded this release ''Starcraft 2 Beta Client US Build 13891'' ( updated ), but at the time there wasn't possible to play against the AI.
I use the info from this page to make it work - http://inquistor.info/darkblizz/wiki/doku.php?id=tutorials


Now i have the same release with lazylauncher2 with ''StarCrack AI 5.5 (no ai cheating)'' and i'm using this map: (2) - Shakuras Plateau.s2ma.


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HIz




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 19:15    Post subject:
NvM...problem solved Embarassed
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Vulgarr




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 19:47    Post subject:
Anyone tried this launcher: http://darkblizz.org/Forum2/sc2-tools/starcraft-2-beta-best-allin1-crack-%28offline-mode%29/msg3266/#msg3266

Looks pretty good. The whole automated process seems nice. I'll check it out soon. Finally got to play last night and I'm definitely stoked for the full game. I've even pre-ordered and paid for the damn thing, so no guilt on playing the beta here Smile On a side note though, damn there is a lot to take in with all the building upgrades and shit. I got used to DoW 2.
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RainyDay




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 20:55    Post subject:
Soo i finally decided to take a break from Allods online and try the beta.

First maybe i must say that i've never been godly impressed by the first game - i thought that was fun and interesting - but the best rts ever - no.

So i tried this beta and... this is the same same old game with a bit prettier graphics (yeah yeah it has been know from day one)...But still, zero progression from the previous game a decate ago and zero gameplay innovations ( oh wait - in space you must destroy giant rubble pieces blocking your base and there is new colorful crystals and a watchtower. Laughing) I'm also quite unimpressed by the models and their design (some of them looks like are made using EA's SAGE engine -(which is a bad thing) Also some of the units speeches are far from what i excpect from blizzard.. Anyway, i think ill stick to Dawn of War... but i can already see a big shiny 9.5/10 everywhere just because it's made by Blizzard and hyped for years...


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zummaz




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 21:01    Post subject:
HELLO ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE SEND ME A BETA KEY EMAIL MASSIVEPWNZZZZ@HOTMAIL.COM

I NEEEEDDDDZ IT REAL BAD Smile

Lutzifer: These keys have gone for up to 300 euros on ebay in the last days. A temp ban might help you with re-considering requesting stuff here in the future.
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Amer_MerzZz




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 21:04    Post subject:
Everyone does, but you don't deserve it 'cause of your post.


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PDSOUNDS




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 21:32    Post subject:
Vulgarr wrote:
Anyone tried this launcher: http://darkblizz.org/Forum2/sc2-tools/starcraft-2-beta-best-allin1-crack-%28offline-mode%29/msg3266/#msg3266

Looks pretty good. The whole automated process seems nice. I'll check it out soon. Finally got to play last night and I'm definitely stoked for the full game. I've even pre-ordered and paid for the damn thing, so no guilt on playing the beta here Smile On a side note though, damn there is a lot to take in with all the building upgrades and shit. I got used to DoW 2.


I have, works like a charm! You can choose what map, and what AI.
Works flawless!!!
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b0se
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 23:07    Post subject:
zummaz wrote:
HELLO ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE SEND ME A BETA KEY EMAIL MASSIVEPWNZZZZ@HOTMAIL.COM

I NEEEEDDDDZ IT REAL BAD Smile


Your post contains crap please gtfo this thread .

Everyone needs a beta key , what makes you think yo gonna get one if you use capital letters and massive !!!! gay spam
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Snoepgun




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 03:20    Post subject:
b0se wrote:
zummaz wrote:
HELLO ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE SEND ME A BETA KEY EMAIL MASSIVEPWNZZZZ@HOTMAIL.COM

I NEEEEDDDDZ IT REAL BAD Smile


Your post contains crap please gtfo this thread .

Everyone needs a beta key , what makes you think yo gonna get one if you use capital letters and massive !!!! gay spam


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clragon




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 03:56    Post subject:
RainyDay wrote:
Soo i finally decided to take a break from Allods online and try the beta.

First maybe i must say that i've never been godly impressed by the first game - i thought that was fun and interesting - but the best rts ever - no.

So i tried this beta and... this is the same same old game with a bit prettier graphics (yeah yeah it has been know from day one)...But still, zero progression from the previous game a decate ago and zero gameplay innovations ( oh wait - in space you must destroy giant rubble pieces blocking your base and there is new colorful crystals and a watchtower. Laughing) I'm also quite unimpressed by the models and their design (some of them looks like are made using EA's SAGE engine -(which is a bad thing) Also some of the units speeches are far from what i excpect from blizzard.. Anyway, i think ill stick to Dawn of War... but i can already see a big shiny 9.5/10 everywhere just because it's made by Blizzard and hyped for years...


there are those of us who appreciate the improvement in gameplay mechanics (through new units/abilities), UI (better unit/building selection, rally point), replay, Bnet, and custom map editor. if the final product after these changes are not enough for you, that's fine. No game will appeal to everyone. But please dont put down other people's intelligence and game taste by inferring that we are liking it just because it was made by blizzard.
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fraich3




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 12:24    Post subject:
clragon wrote:
RainyDay wrote:
Soo i finally decided to take a break from Allods online and try the beta.

First maybe i must say that i've never been godly impressed by the first game - i thought that was fun and interesting - but the best rts ever - no.

So i tried this beta and... this is the same same old game with a bit prettier graphics (yeah yeah it has been know from day one)...But still, zero progression from the previous game a decate ago and zero gameplay innovations ( oh wait - in space you must destroy giant rubble pieces blocking your base and there is new colorful crystals and a watchtower. Laughing) I'm also quite unimpressed by the models and their design (some of them looks like are made using EA's SAGE engine -(which is a bad thing) Also some of the units speeches are far from what i excpect from blizzard.. Anyway, i think ill stick to Dawn of War... but i can already see a big shiny 9.5/10 everywhere just because it's made by Blizzard and hyped for years...


there are those of us who appreciate the improvement in gameplay mechanics (through new units/abilities), UI (better unit/building selection, rally point), replay, Bnet, and custom map editor. if the final product after these changes are not enough for you, that's fine. No game will appeal to everyone. But please dont put down other people's intelligence and game taste by inferring that we are liking it just because it was made by blizzard.

+1 Razz


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RainyDay




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 12:48    Post subject:
Seriously if you feel your intelligence and game tastes deeply violated, just by me mentioning the words "Blizzard" and "hype", please go cry in some dark corner, you young sensitive miss Laughing

About the hype - i was referring to all the reviewers who will give high scores, but yes, why not to say it - the game will be mostly liked because it's made by blizzard. You know it as well, just don't want to acknowledge it, but i'm fine with it Very Happy If this was not made by Blizz, everyone would be screaming that is just a reskinned new version with few toys (assault marines, tripods, motherships.. lol) Now i suddenly remember bunch of interesting rts-s that simply went silent because they were not accompanied by a big bang from the dev/publisher (universe at wars is way more innovative that SC2 )..


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fraich3




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 12:57    Post subject:
Yeah of course you are right. It is a HUUGE plus for me that Blizzard made the game!

Cause then i know for a fact that it has vastly superior online matchmaking + ladder system then countless other RTS out there. War3 ladder system was awesome, even better in the beginning of War3.

Secondly i also know for a fact, that because it is Blizzard they will keep coming up with patches etc to keep making playing the game online/competitively better and balanced.

Thirdly, Blizzard or no Blizzard, they have huge community, which reasons for ensuring awesomeness i really dont have to describe..

So yeah, i really does matter that its Blizzard who makes this game Smile


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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 13:42    Post subject:
fraich3 wrote:
Yeah of course you are right. It is a HUUGE plus for me that Blizzard made the game!

Cause then i know for a fact that it has vastly superior online matchmaking + ladder system then countless other RTS out there. War3 ladder system was awesome, even better in the beginning of War3.

Secondly i also know for a fact, that because it is Blizzard they will keep coming up with patches etc to keep making playing the game online/competitively better and balanced.

Thirdly, Blizzard or no Blizzard, they have huge community, which reasons for ensuring awesomeness i really dont have to describe..

So yeah, i really does matter that its Blizzard who makes this game Smile


And this, my friends, is why huge amounts of people will buy SC2 without having a second thought. Who needs innovation, who needs originality, just go the safe boring Blizzard way. God forbid we try and learn something new.
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fraich3




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 14:28    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
fraich3 wrote:
Yeah of course you are right. It is a HUUGE plus for me that Blizzard made the game!

Cause then i know for a fact that it has vastly superior online matchmaking + ladder system then countless other RTS out there. War3 ladder system was awesome, even better in the beginning of War3.

Secondly i also know for a fact, that because it is Blizzard they will keep coming up with patches etc to keep making playing the game online/competitively better and balanced.

Thirdly, Blizzard or no Blizzard, they have huge community, which reasons for ensuring awesomeness i really dont have to describe..

So yeah, i really does matter that its Blizzard who makes this game Smile


And this, my friends, is why huge amounts of people will buy SC2 without having a second thought. Who needs innovation, who needs originality, just go the safe boring Blizzard way. God forbid we try and learn something new.

True, you are absolutly right! I would love a new RTS that worked great, had great mechanics, run great, had great support from developers, great online matchmaking. I just cant find one, dont know if it is just me ?

Though I have to say, Warcraft 3 + The Frozen Throne was pretty inovative RTS games. Adding and making the whole hero aspect to the game a valuable, and great idea. And Warcraft 3 will probaly always be my nr. 1 RTS. So saying BLizzard is boring altogether might be a little biased just because the way some people view Starcraft 2 so far..

So sure, Starcraft 2 might lack the extra new things to differ it from alot of other RTS out there. But in the end Im gonna play the game that offers me the best experince, both online/competitive wise and best support to ensure quality gaming throughout. And Starcraft/Blizzard just delivers here where other companies just dont cut it. Cause that is whats gonna make me keep playing, not like trying the new innovative thing that doesnt work or stop getting updated after 1-3 patches and just lie down to die.. alone


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Raap




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 14:36    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:

And this, my friends, is why huge amounts of people will buy SC2 without having a second thought. Who needs innovation, who needs originality, just go the safe boring Blizzard way. God forbid we try and learn something new.


Yeah, support the innovative and creative game developers instead...Oh wait, there aren't really any, are there? Sure, you've a few indies like IcepickLodge, but the big developers are all just making the same shitty fps/tps/aRPG games over and over again. So when that's the alternative, why not just as well go for the same concept that worked so well in SC1? It's not like any other RTS developer has come up with a more fun gameplay anyway.
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trucane




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 14:45    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
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And this, my friends, is why huge amounts of people will buy SC2 without having a second thought. Who needs innovation, who needs originality, just go the safe boring Blizzard way. God forbid we try and learn something new.


innovation? originality? Yea most current games has a lot of those and if they do it's in the "dumbing down" kind of originality but yea sure go and buy those games instead. SC2 isn't supposed to be something new and revolutionary and blizzard has never tried to imply that. Why will SC2 be so damn great? Because blizzard knows how to do good games despite what you think of their games. SC2 will be the new WC3 if not even better, I have personally spent 100s of hours in WC3 and while only a fraction of those has been actually playing the original WC3 game most of the time has been spent playing all the custom maps available.

Here is a tip from me, go out and buy a copy of C&C:4 when it's released, there you will have some major originality ( Shitty originality that is).
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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 15:53    Post subject:
trucane wrote:
Radicalus wrote:
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And this, my friends, is why huge amounts of people will buy SC2 without having a second thought. Who needs innovation, who needs originality, just go the safe boring Blizzard way. God forbid we try and learn something new.


innovation? originality? Yea most current games has a lot of those and if they do it's in the "dumbing down" kind of originality but yea sure go and buy those games instead. SC2 isn't supposed to be something new and revolutionary and blizzard has never tried to imply that. Why will SC2 be so damn great? Because blizzard knows how to do good games despite what you think of their games. SC2 will be the new WC3 if not even better, I have personally spent 100s of hours in WC3 and while only a fraction of those has been actually playing the original WC3 game most of the time has been spent playing all the custom maps available.

Here is a tip from me, go out and buy a copy of C&C:4 when it's released, there you will have some major originality ( Shitty originality that is).


You have valid points, it's true, but SC2 is the safe tried old formula. I won't buy c&c4. I play dow I, age 2 and 3 and coh. imho those are the best ones around. And yes, there is originality in 4x strategies or TBS, it's only the RTS genre that is lacking as of late.
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Raap




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 16:03    Post subject:
Uh, pretty sure you can count the number of 4x games and tbs games that are released each year on a single hand. Don't get me wrong, I love both of those genres, but fact is no one's really making them anymore, and the few that are have really just copy-pasted the old ones( like HoMM/Civ ).
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AwE




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2010 16:04    Post subject:
dota2 anyone ^^
i `ll buy this just for the custom maps!
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