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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 18:36    Post subject: [OTHER] Windows Phone 7 Series


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Windows Phone 7 Series, originally codenamed "Photon"[2], is an upcoming version of the Windows Mobile operating system developed by Microsoft. It is planned for release in late 2010



note: this is not a real device, just a mock up of what one might look like. M$ is not getting into the hardware game Smile






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Windows Phone 7 Series is the successor to Microsoft's line of Windows Mobile phone operating systems. It's based on the Windows CE 6 kernel, like the Zune HD, while current versions of Windows Mobile are based on Windows CE 5. Microsoft announced the new OS at Mobile World Congress 2010 in Barcelona, and says that the first handsets to run it are supposed to be released by the holiday shopping season of this year.

The visual and underlying differences in the operating system are almost too numerous to mention, including a completely (and we do mean completely) upended user interface, an emphasis on finger-based touchscreen input, deep social networking integration, fully branded and expansive Zune and Xbox components, and extremely strict hardware requirements for partners. A couple familiar touchstones from the past include plans for Outlook and Office support, as well as licensing to a wide variety of third party hardware vendors -- despite the name change, Microsoft still isn't building any phones itself.

Part of what makes Windows Phone 7 Series a departure for Microsoft is that the company is taking a much bigger role in dictating what hardware is allowed to run the OS. While we still haven't seen an actual device produced by a manufacturer for retail (the demo unit being shown off is a prototype slab allegedly made by Garmin-Asus, but not a device that might ever come to market), Microsoft has a very clear picture of what they want these units to be built like. Still, while the company is laying down the ground rules in an attempt to create a more consistent experience across phones, it doesn't mean there won't be variety. You'll see variation in devices (yes, some with and some without a keyboard), but there will be a much more steady tone in the nature of Windows Phone 7 Series handsets. Here's a look at some of the minimum specs detailed to us thus far:

* Large WVGA screen with a single aspect ratio (which means BlackBerry-style devices won't be readily available to begin with)
* Five specific hardware buttons required: Start, back, search (a dedicated Bing button), camera button, and power -- no more, no less
* Capacitive multitouch
* CPU and GPU requirements (beginning with Qualcomm's Snapdragon as the go-to processor)
* WiFi
* AGPS
* Accelerometer
* FM radio
* High resolution camera


http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/17/windows-phone-7-series-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone_7_Series
http://www.windowsphone7series.com/

Could be interesting to see what handsets start coming out closer to the end of the year. Likely I'll have my current phone for the next couple of years anyways, so there should be lots to choose from when I need a new one.


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 00:09    Post subject:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-faces-off-against-its-windows-mobile-past/

funny all the 'NO's and 'BARELY's in 6.5 are easily remedied with 3rd party software but they don't mention that Smile

hopefully they don't cripple the capabilities of the new OS so you can't make any changes to it :/


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 00:37    Post subject:
I have currently a modded 6.5.5 rom on my Touch Pro 2 and... it sucks. My keyboard is reacting very slowly, there is some weird quickmenu, it is NOT faster than the official 6.5 and I just don't like how the maker changed the colors. (+ tons of sucky apps) Sad(((((

I hate it when the kids think that they have a better feel for design than professionals Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 00:57    Post subject:
I have 6.5 on my Omnia II, using SPD Shell 3.5 for the interface and S2U2 for the slide to unlock (and S2P for the mp3 integration with lock screen too), everything is pretty smooth. Omnia II reserves a ton of the RAM for system functions (radio, camera, etc) so you need to watch running out of what's left.

but yeah, I'm using the default samsung keyboard still... it's not bad but I probably suck at being fast at typing too.


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 01:48    Post subject:
Well thats what swype is for! Very Happy Damn all the people I know and would contact talk german. I can't use swype as much as I would like to, cause it's really the fastest way to type something!


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 05:30    Post subject:
wow, swype is awesome Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 05:45    Post subject:
Dear lord, what has Microsoft done!? Mad Mad Mad This piece of shit is the same shit as Apple! No copypasta, no multitasking; hell, they even talk about no application but the crap panels that you stick on the front page (which are widgets - not serious programs). My god, this is pure piece of shit!

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WM 6.5.5 is still in beta and is very slow. 6.5 or 6.1 is recommended. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 05:46    Post subject:
Also, the pic in the second post is not correct. This is based on CE7, not CE6, and no CE5.x application works on CE7.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 15:18    Post subject:
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I think the main problem is still there, the interface it´schoppy at times, from what I can see in videos.

Just put something as smooth as the iphone out, and you´ll have a possible buyer here.

After using the iphone I can´t go back to any of the other devices/os...

The smoothness of the iphone is irreplaceable for me.

I bought an HTC Magic last year and it´s a cool OS, but it´s very far of how good the iphone works.

I just don´t get it, can´t everyone see that the iphone revolutionize the interface market because it´s smooth??
It´s not about the look of it only...

They keep putting devices on the market that feel choppy and the touch screen makes you feel that you must be concentrated to work properly.

I want a new phone, but the screen must be as good as the iphone one.


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 15:25    Post subject:
The interface is in pre beta state, that's why. Devices are expected in holidays 2010.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 15:34    Post subject:
Edited above post!

I really hope that they can do it righ this time...

I´m not confident though.

We hear about a lot of iPhone killers, but they come out and suicide themselves Laughing

It´s all about the screen, not the looks...
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 15:34    Post subject:
The hardware IS fast enough! Just look at the 500mhz htc phones with android. They run smooth. 500mhz and windows mobile? choppy as hell. THAT IS SO ANNOYING! Sad

@sutura:
The Touch HD2 is very smooth and it has a capacitive display like the iphone. but it proved just one more time, that windows mobile 6.x is a pain in the butt Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 15:39    Post subject:
It doesn't matter, pain or not, it is still the most powerful OS. iPhone? Laughing Don't make me laugh. And sadly, this WM7 crap is same shit as iPhone.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 15:46    Post subject:
What defines a powerful OS??

With the best apps/games around it´s very clear what the best OS is...

WM, now that is a laugh.

And yes, the new devices have capacitive screens, but still feel like shit.

My HTC Magic has capacative, but if I compare it with my iphone it´s a joke.

And don´t waste your breath saying that it is as smooth, it´s simply not.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 15:48    Post subject:
What makes an OS powerful is what it allows you to do, not the games that are on it, and the iPhone is pathetic at that. I am sorry, crack your OS to be able to run software? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 16:02    Post subject:
I don´t want this to turn into a fanboy argument Smile

Just name one thing that the WM can do that the iPhone doesn´t.

And just a question, have you ever used iPhone on a daily basis?
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 16:39    Post subject:
Multitask
Flash device with custom roms that give me completely different feel and look
Better hardware, etc.

BTW, I've been running Android on my Diamond for a few days now, it is really coming along. In a few months time, I will be able to make it my default OS.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 17:48    Post subject:
lol, you mean you can't listen to music and browse the web at the same time on an iPhone? I must have missed that


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 17:59    Post subject:
You cannot have the browser open with the SMS application;
You cannot have the browser open, download an app, open the file explorer (while the browser is running), install the cab (while explorer and browser are running), run the app/game (while the explorer and browser are running);
You cannot talk on Skype while browsing the web;
You cannot talk on Skype while playing games;
You cannot talk on Skype while sending SMS messages;
You cannot talk on phone while doing any of the above;
You cannot talk on Skype/phone while navigating on GPS;
etc. Wink

Whoa, what an awesome OS! Laughing

Basically, any app that should be run in the background while you do other stuff is impossible. Music is the sole exception because it would have been too much to not allow that. You see, the core of the OS supports multitasking just fine (it is OS X after all), but Apple dumbos have decided that their users are too stupid to understand what that is, so they have disabled it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 20:38    Post subject:
For starters, in WM if you take away all the UI´s that manufacturers develop for the system it´s just pure shit.

And the way you talk I can tell that you don´t know the iphone well enough.

Multitasking / Sype+ ... - Install Backgrounder
SMS while in browser - Install QuickReply or bitesms or whatever...

Change the look, just install themes that completely change the iphone UI, with folders or whatever, there´s dozens of them.

You must not be aware of the fantastic community that the iphone have, and like xda for the WM, there are great forums about the iphone that correct all the flaws that come out-of-the-box.

And I have to say, the catalogue of games/apps for the iphone completely aniquilates any other mobile phone platform.

It´s like comparing games on Windows and on OSX.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 20:55    Post subject:
If you want to play games why not buy a PSP Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 22:07    Post subject:
That´s the point, I don´t need a PSP!

I have a phone that satisfies all my portable gaming needs.

When I had a PSP I played mostly at home cuz I didn´t have my psp with me.

My mobile phone it´s always with me.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Feb 2010 23:07    Post subject:
Is that phone a mock, or is that actual hardware? I like that hardware... ;p


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 00:09    Post subject:
sTo0z wrote:
Is that phone a mock, or is that actual hardware? I like that hardware... ;p


nope M$ mock since M$ is not making hardware. size, shape and 3 buttons are probably going to be pretty standard though Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Mar 2010 21:49    Post subject:
This is seriously sad.



Not even Copy-Paste. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Mar 2010 05:45    Post subject:
Hahahaha ! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Oct 2010 18:50    Post subject:
The worst thing about buying an HTC or any other brand is that you´ll have the latest product for about 2/3 months.

There´s always a new model in the corner... FUCK THAT!

At least when I buy an iphone I know that for at least one year I have the top of the line model.
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Oct 2010 18:55    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Oct 2010 19:04    Post subject:
So tell me what is better than the appstore library if you can!
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Oct 2010 22:54    Post subject:
lots of phones!





http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/windows-phone-7-handsets-the-tale-of-the-tape/

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