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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 04:08    Post subject: Nvidia delays Fermi to March 2010
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20091228PD207.html

lol

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For performance level markets, Nvidia will allow its GeForce GTS250, GT240/220 and 9800GT/9500GT defend against AMD's Radeon HD 5770/5750, 4870/4850 and 4670/4650.

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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 04:26    Post subject:
Lmao, there's a surprise. Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 04:28    Post subject:
All aboard the sinking ship SS nVidia! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 04:32    Post subject:
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=8160

just found this
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sabin1981 wrote:
All aboard the sinking ship SS nVidia! Laughing


all aboard the price of hike of ATI cards lol
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 04:37    Post subject:
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Keep in mind that the GTS 250 has essentially been the same GPU that was released December of 2006!!

If you were tired of rebranding already - tough luck it would seem for the first half of 2010.



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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 04:48    Post subject:
LMAO
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 08:59    Post subject:
275GTX or Die?...

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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 11:57    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
275GTX or Die?...

Considering the 5850 is same price and is better and the 275 is discontinued, ... "Die" is the better choice? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 13:13    Post subject:
digitimes.com wrote:
For performance level markets, Nvidia will allow its GeForce GTS250, GT240/220 and 9800GT/9500GT defend against AMD's Radeon HD 5770/5750, 4870/4850 and 4670/4650.


Okay am I reading this right? Isn't the ATI cards mentioned above better than Nvidia's answer?
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 13:41    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
DV2 wrote:
275GTX or Die?...

Considering the 5850 is same price and is better and the 275 is discontinued, ... "Die" is the better choice? Laughing


Now another VS:

Nvidia Drivers or Die with ATI ones?^^;;; grinhurt...i choose Nvidia!..Damn you fermi,DAAAMN YOU

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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 13:50    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Now another VS:

Nvidia Drivers or Die with ATI ones?^^;;; grinhurt...i choose Nvidia!..Damn you fermi,DAAAMN YOU

NVIDIA drivers which don't let you use your overpriced-but-paid-anyway NVIDIA cards as dedicated CUDA/PhysX cards unless you have ANOTHER NVIDIA card in your system as main graphics chip?
I know you can, with some minor hacks - but that shouldn't be necessary. I paid for my card, and they don't get to block the way I use it. Bullshit that it's because it's an unsupported method - they don't block Intel's IGP's either.

And ATI's drivers are fine these days. Not as good as NVIDIA's, but certainly not as bad some nitwits like yourself try to make them look :E
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 15:33    Post subject:
Ci2e wrote:
digitimes.com wrote:
For performance level markets, Nvidia will allow its GeForce GTS250, GT240/220 and 9800GT/9500GT defend against AMD's Radeon HD 5770/5750, 4870/4850 and 4670/4650.


Okay am I reading this right? Isn't the ATI cards mentioned above better than Nvidia's answer?


Yeah, it's nonsense bullshit. Both the GTS250 and 9800GT get royally spanked by the 4870/4850, so they're just not comparable. The 5770 is basically the DX11 equivalent of a 4870 too, so yeah... nVidia fail again.

@SpykeZ

ATi price hike? Where? You can get a 4870 for less than £100 and a 4890 for £120. The 5850 is £200 and the 5870 is £300 (£300 for a card that is every bit the equal to the GTX295, yet £90 cheaper? Razz)
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 15:48    Post subject:
Yeah and what is this Nvidia blocking the way you use your card - okay this is bullshit if this is true I'm never buying another Nvidia card - screw those overpricing fucks - no more benz for youz!
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 15:51    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=8160

just found this
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sabin1981 wrote:
All aboard the sinking ship SS nVidia! Laughing


all aboard the price of hike of ATI cards lol


Gawd I sure as hell hope not Rolling Eyes
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Ci2e




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 15:57    Post subject:
Oh by the way this nViDiA rebranding is totally lame - so my 8800GT is really a 7800GT?

Seriously who is going to buy a product that is labeled something that came out 1-3 years ago?

I certainly won't I've had enough of nViDiA bullying the market I think I really have Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 16:16    Post subject:
Ci2e wrote:
Oh by the way this nViDiA rebranding is totally lame - so my 8800GT is really a 7800GT?


Actually, no. Their rebranding stuff started with the 9-series because they just lost all talent. The 8800GT is a brand new, entirely new, card. Different core and specs to the 8800GTX and 8800GTS-320/640. The 9800GT, on the other hand, is a rebranded 8800GT. A GTS-250 is a rebranded 9800GTX.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 16:25    Post subject:
That's confusing shit - a 9800GT is rebranded an 8800GT - which would make my 8800GT a ghost Confused

The 8800GT is not new and I think I spent close to $300 on this card too so
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 16:32    Post subject:
lol @ u then, i got my for 50 euro and swapped that for gtx 260 216p which cost me 100, means i only payed 50 for it, i never pay more than a 100 euro for a vcard for the past 4 years Wink

btw both of them were brand new with guarantee
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 17:05    Post subject:
Not useful to look at NVIDIA's names anymore, you have to look at the chip they use Smile

G80: First 8-series cards; 8800 Ultra, GTX, GTS-320/640
G92: 8800 GT, 8800 GTS-512, 9800 GT, 9800 GTX(+), GTS-250
Note with the G92: this is a G80, but on a smaller die and with some very minor improvements. There's also a G92a and G92b; b is again smaller. Suffixes (GT, GTS, GTX) mean jackshit, as each of these chips overclocks like hell anyway Very Happy


And the blocking bit: If you've got an ATI card as your primary card and want to use an old 8/9 series for PhysX/CUDA (like me with my old 9800GTX), you have to use an old driver, fiddle with some settings and set up a work around to get it to work. Not because the driver can't do it, but because NVIDIA literally go "Oh hrm there's an ATI card as primary adapter..LETS DISABLE CUDA ROAR o/" in it Razz
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Ci2e




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 18:00    Post subject:
@ Mortibus - I think my card is 2+ years old but I'm probably wrong and it's probably only maybe 18 months old maybe. So yeah I could be wrong about the cost of it aswell - but I seriously think I'm done with nViDiA they are only money hungry and they haven't done me any favors in the past like giving me a free upgrade like you got...

Shit those promotions weren't even heard of when I bought this thing!

@ pwerelds - lool that's funny shit - and my vid card runs hot as fuck even idle - I even sprayed it out and that seems to have lowered the temps maybe 2-5C but pft!
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 19:27    Post subject:
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@ pwerelds - lool that's funny shit - and my vid card runs hot as fuck even idle - I even sprayed it out and that seems to have lowered the temps maybe 2-5C but pft!

How hot is it? My 9800GTX runs at 35ish idle with 30% fan speed :E
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 22:52    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Actually, no. Their rebranding stuff started with the 9-series because they just lost all talent.

GeForce 4 MX. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 22:58    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Actually, no. Their rebranding stuff started with the 9-series because they just lost all talent.

GeForce 4 MX. Laughing

One of the worst videocards ever made
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 22:59    Post subject:
which still works btw Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 23:04    Post subject:
So? My ISA Cirrus Logic also works. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 23:05    Post subject:
welll considering amount of failed recent vcards from both nvidia and ati after a couple of month/years, i'd say that's pretty amazing
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 23:09    Post subject:
Well, if you look at the cards failing, usually it's the higher end cards, because they are so complex. With GF 4 MX, you are really congratulating the GF 2 line. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 23:33    Post subject:
Cards had better be good.
GTX 280 will hold the fort untill march or later when i can take my pick of the bunch.
I hear preview samples are going out in January though.

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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Dec 2009 23:47    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Well, if you look at the cards failing, usually it's the higher end cards, because they are so complex. With GF 4 MX, you are really congratulating the GF 2 line. Laughing


dunno if 8xxx/9xxx or 4xxx from ati considered to be hi-end, then again there is no hi-end till another card around the corner
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 10:52    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:


@SpykeZ

ATi price hike? Where? You can get a 4870 for less than £100 and a 4890 for £120. The 5850 is £200 and the 5870 is £300 (£300 for a card that is every bit the equal to the GTX295, yet £90 cheaper? Razz)


not even two weeks after the 5850 came out the prices went up. I paid 268 with shipping when it came out. Now there 300 without shipping.
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