[XBOX360] Wave 4 games starts showing
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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009 22:06    Post subject:
Clcancellation wrote:
cobALT wrote:

In that case you might as well NOT buy one at all. This wave thing is not the first nor the last, so either get used to it or go legit; witch for you would be like an 1000G achievement/trophy.

Wave 4 games already can be played on 1.51
so there is a chance that the next IX will be more "durable" to the waves.
or the 360 will be more hacked then now
I won't wait forever to buy 360,so I might have to "update" the IX
too.

wait, what? so you sat there 4 years since the launch waiting for the "ultimate" hacked firmware to be created - in an age where major firmware changes happen more frequently than somebody whining about a girl in this forum? Cool Face
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Guvnor




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009 22:07    Post subject:
ive read that too kommando - sure it was xbox scene ...
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zerstorer




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009 22:09    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
zerstorer wrote:
did someone tried this on ixtreme 1.4???
with patcher or without


Im pretty sure i saw a post of someone saying its working with the wave 3 patcher but dont remember where i saw it


yep i read this anywhere too
but that was just one confirm i read 3 forums about it read about in on Tl

but no confirm just this one
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me7




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009 22:10    Post subject:
Clcancellation wrote:
cobALT wrote:

In that case you might as well NOT buy one at all. This wave thing is not the first nor the last, so either get used to it or go legit; witch for you would be like an 1000G achievement/trophy.

Wave 4 games already can be played on 1.51
so there is a chance that the next IX will be more "durable" to the waves.
or the 360 will be more hacked then now
I won't wait forever to buy 360,so I might have to "update" the IX
too.


You have a wrong understanding of what "wave 4" means. It is no new copy protection that needs to be cracked, MS has just changed the layout of the X360 game disc a little (I guess the will ship a new dashboard update and need more space, maybe it's part of a new piracy detectiion mechanic,...) and iXtreme thinks it is a bad rip bacause it doesn't know it yet. To prevent you from playing bad rips and getting banned it does not allow the disc to boot.
All that needs to be done is add some code to iXtreme so that it recongizes wave 4 as a valid video partition.
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gibman70




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009 22:10    Post subject:
zerstorer wrote:
did someone tried this on ixtreme 1.4???
with patcher or without



yep, see my post on previous page of this thread - i used the patcher to get the cars game working on 1.4, so no problems with that firmware.


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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009 22:11    Post subject:
zerstorer wrote:
Kommando wrote:
zerstorer wrote:
did someone tried this on ixtreme 1.4???
with patcher or without


Im pretty sure i saw a post of someone saying its working with the wave 3 patcher but dont remember where i saw it


yep i read this anywhere too
but that was just one confirm i read 3 forums about it read about in on Tl

but no confirm just this one

how about a few posts above? Wink

gibman70 wrote:
nope - i downloaded that (crappy) cars race o rama and didnt know anything about the wave 4 thing then, so just applied the patch as usual....game worked fine.

so for those of us that currently use the patcher to get wave 3 games working, there'll be no issues with wave 4 Smile


the whole wave4 problem for those on 1.4 just disappeared before it even became an issue Very Happy
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zerstorer




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009 22:18    Post subject:
Okay thats perfect thanks guys


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009 22:41    Post subject:
dunno if it was asked before but i have ix 1.5, do i need to patch new wave4 with wave 3 patcher or...?
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me7




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Oct 2009 23:24    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
dunno if it was asked before but i have ix 1.5, do i need to patch new wave4 with wave 3 patcher or...?


Think about it. The "wave 3 patcher" was made for an iXtreme version that recognized wave 1 and 2 only. It stripped the wave 3 partition and replaced it with a wave 2 version so that iXtreme accepted the game.

Now we have an iXtreme revision that knows versions 1, 2 and 3 but not 4. If you strip the version 4 partition and replace it with version 2, guess what will happen...
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 00:15    Post subject:
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 00:23    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
dunno if it was asked before but i have ix 1.5, do i need to patch new wave4 with wave 3 patcher or...?


Think about it. The "wave 3 patcher" was made for an iXtreme version that recognized wave 1 and 2 only. It stripped the wave 3 partition and replaced it with a wave 2 version so that iXtreme accepted the game.

Now we have an iXtreme revision that knows versions 1, 2 and 3 but not 4. If you strip the version 4 partition and replace it with version 2, guess what will happen...


wouldn't it be easier just simply answer the question instead of posting all this?

oh well what do i know Razz
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ShadowX




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 00:45    Post subject:
Just buy the games Very Happy , some are worth it.
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gazzu




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 01:06    Post subject:
Question about Wave 4 Loader for Ixtreme 1.6... can i load wave 1 games on ixtreme 1.6 with it? I got a lot of games i cant play anymore like dead rising, crackdown, etc. and i dont want to burn them again.
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Shawn_Hunter




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 01:15    Post subject:
gibman70 wrote:
nope - i downloaded that (crappy) cars race o rama and didnt know anything about the wave 4 thing then, so just applied the patch as usual....game worked fine.

so for those of us that currently use the patcher to get wave 3 games working, there'll be no issues with wave 4 Smile

When you say patcher, I assume you mean the old one which allows the downconversion of Wave 3 games to be played on a IExteme 1.4 and older versions, correct?

So I guess the same thing won't apply for IExtreme 1.6 right? Confused

BTW can anyone confirm if that activate.iso image needs a Dual Layer DVD to be wasted or a single layer should work fine?
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gazzu




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 01:18    Post subject:
Shawn_Hunter wrote:
gibman70 wrote:
nope - i downloaded that (crappy) cars race o rama and didnt know anything about the wave 4 thing then, so just applied the patch as usual....game worked fine.

so for those of us that currently use the patcher to get wave 3 games working, there'll be no issues with wave 4 Smile

When you say patcher, I assume you mean the old one which allows the downconversion of Wave 3 games to be played on a IExteme 1.4 and older versions, correct?

So I guess the same thing won't apply for IExtreme 1.6 right? Confused

BTW can anyone confirm if that activate.iso image needs a Dual Layer DVD to be wasted or a single layer should work fine?


I cant confirm it, but as far as i read, you need a DVD DL+R.
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Shawn_Hunter




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 01:21    Post subject:
No worries, I'll wait for someone else to confirm it. Smile

gazzu wrote:
Question about Wave 4 Loader for Ixtreme 1.6... can i load wave 1 games on ixtreme 1.6 with it? I got a lot of games i cant play anymore like dead rising, crackdown, etc. and i dont want to burn them again.

I have IExtreme 1.6 loaded and Dead Rising works just fine out here.
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gazzu




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 03:21    Post subject:
Ok, now i can confirm it works perfect on a dual layer. The loader detect all the old games i have (wave 1), also a few i patched before the upgrade to 1.6.
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gibman70




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 10:22    Post subject:
Shawn_Hunter wrote:
gibman70 wrote:
nope - i downloaded that (crappy) cars race o rama and didnt know anything about the wave 4 thing then, so just applied the patch as usual....game worked fine.

so for those of us that currently use the patcher to get wave 3 games working, there'll be no issues with wave 4 Smile

When you say patcher, I assume you mean the old one which allows the downconversion of Wave 3 games to be played on a IExteme 1.4 and older versions, correct?

So I guess the same thing won't apply for IExtreme 1.6 right? Confused



yep, just to clarify - i mean the patcher for those of us playing wave 3 games with 1.4 firmware.
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me7




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 11:54    Post subject:
gazzu wrote:
Ok, now i can confirm it works perfect on a dual layer. The loader detect all the old games i have (wave 1), also a few i patched before the upgrade to 1.6.


it just does exactly what the iXtreme 1.6 nfo says:

Code:
One shot boot mode allows you to boot a Wave X or non stealth game by using the activate.iso disk as a flag. Just insert the activate disc and the next disc inserted will boot without any strict checks. This will still utilise full stealth if available. As soon as that disc is booted the flag is cleared, and you will have to re-insert the activate disk again to enable one shot boot. As always use with caution.
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Shawn_Hunter




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 12:35    Post subject:
Alright, now here's a funny thing. Out of curiosity, I burned this activate.iso to a normal DVD-RW (not a Dual Layer) via IMGburn and guess what, it got detected in my drive and that message popped up stating "please insert Xbox 360 game disc" or something like that. Does this mean the burn was successful and that I don't have to waste a Dual layer for it?
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 13:54    Post subject:
Why would you want to waste DL disc to burn this tool? You don't even need to waste DVD. Just burn it on a cheap CD disk
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 14:07    Post subject:
KrutojPoc wrote:
Why would you want to waste DL disc to burn this tool? You don't even need to waste DVD. Just burn it on a cheap CD disk

CDs are more expensive than DVDs Very Happy


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ragnar156




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 14:27    Post subject:
new about wave4 patcher ?
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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 14:33    Post subject:
ragnar156 wrote:
new about wave4 patcher ?

read above - just patch the games with the good old wave3 patcher.
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ragnar156




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 14:41    Post subject:
bushwacka wrote:
ragnar156 wrote:
new about wave4 patcher ?

read above - just patch the games with the good old wave3 patcher.


you are sure ? it's confirmed ?
thanks a lot !
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kalato




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 15:10    Post subject:
What games have wave 4? The latest game I have played is Fifa10 I cant bloody remember what firmware I got, I can remember getting annoyed by patching the images so I reflashed my box a couple of months back.


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grimmmy




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 15:12    Post subject:
There's only been one so far being "Cars.Race.o.Rama-XBOX360".

No doubt we'll see more and more in the coming weeks.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 15:36    Post subject:
I was not sure what f/w version mine was. When I put the cars o rama disk in, it just gave me a white screen with the xbox logo and XBOX 360 spelled out. I am guessing I am on 1.5 and not 1.51, because its a liteon drive and I have not patched any wave 3 games ever.

IS the activate.iso only for 1.6?
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me7




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 16:13    Post subject:
Ihump4nfos wrote:
IS the activate.iso only for 1.6?


Yes. 1.51 reads everything afaik and 1.5 reads only wave 1 and 2, so you must be on 1.5
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Ihump4nfos
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 17:40    Post subject:
but I have never had to patch wave 3 games. So shouldnt I be on 1.51? I am also seeing on XS forums, Liteon people with 1.51 having problems running the game.


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