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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 20:10    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Well, cheers to piracy! The only tool we have to stick it back to the publishers.


This.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 20:29    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Within six days is a bit of a stretch, if they are really optimizing it'll mean they'll just send the gold master disc six days later. Smile
(PC version does have some extra stuff like DX10 but of course the developers and publishers want their products to sell and if that can be done by delaying the PC edition thus lowering piracy a bit then that's what they'll do.)



Nah, Gold master is already in factories being pressed.

You guys forget about 0-day patch ?^^ Thought that was normal these days
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 21:02    Post subject:
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat, we can't wait 6 days it's too long, the whole world was built in 7 Laughing
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suprman




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 21:06    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
JBeckman wrote:
Within six days is a bit of a stretch, if they are really optimizing it'll mean they'll just send the gold master disc six days later. Smile
(PC version does have some extra stuff like DX10 but of course the developers and publishers want their products to sell and if that can be done by delaying the PC edition thus lowering piracy a bit then that's what they'll do.)



Nah, Gold master is already in factories being pressed.

You guys forget about 0-day patch ?^^ Thought that was normal these days


In that case it's even worse, they're artificially holding off on the release all for the sake of a fucking patch, gone are the days it seems when gold means gold.
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guess_who_kthxbai
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 21:10    Post subject:
AKofC wrote:
guess_who_kthxbai wrote:
Oh come on guys! It's less than a week! I don't care at all for such a small delay.


Oh fuck you, you inconsiderate selfish bastard!

I have like terminal penis cancer and have like a month and three days to live! AND NOW I'M DYING WITHOUT EXPERIENCING THE JOYS OF BORDERLANDS?!

FUCK YOU YOU UNCARING PRICK!

Crying or Very sad


No problem mate, you can always invade Gearbox's HQ and secretely play the gold master of the game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanboys_%282009_film%29 Laughing


And then like you peoples were all like, "YOU IS TROLLIN!" and I was like "I AM NOT TROLLING!! I AM guess_who_kthxbai YOU SEE! Mm!"

<3 to all
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 21:19    Post subject:
Ooooh, now that was an awesome film Very Happy
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 22:57    Post subject:
Not really related, well it is in a way, since we're talking about evil businesses and their dealings.

Quote:

Citing information from traders, a Reuters report said there was "unsubstantiated talk" that Microsoft is interested in buying the publisher of the Madden, Medal of Honor and FIFA series.

Shares of EA jumped 97 cents, or 5.24%, to $19.49 on the news, outpacing the Nasdaq, which grew 0.19%.

Although merely a rumor, an acquisition would boost Microsoft's presence in the video game space.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 23:24    Post subject:
Holy shit.... two evil empires together!!??
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 23:25    Post subject:
I shit bricks !

(maybe it's just rumours)
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Ashmolly




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 23:33    Post subject:
Anything to put Sony out of business lmao.....


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djaoni




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 12:49    Post subject:
I just made an account to lurk on gearbox forums yesterday and haven't posted anything at all and today they banned my IP. Seriously what the fuck?


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 12:50    Post subject:
Same nick as on here?
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 12:51    Post subject:
Nope, just some random pretty much.

I'll just use some proxy to lurk the forums anyways. And I just noticed only my IP is banned not my account. Laughing
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 12:55    Post subject:
Perhaps they had repeated attacks from your ISP, so they banned its IP ranges?
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 12:59    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Perhaps they had repeated attacks from your ISP, so they banned its IP ranges?

Banning the biggest isp in scandinavia? sounds real smart.
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 13:00    Post subject:
No idea what ISP he's using, but what other reason is there to ban an IP but not his account?
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 13:03    Post subject:
And now after I used a proxy on the site it works without one all of a sudden. Guess they had some bug or something.
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 13:04    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
No idea what ISP he's using, but what other reason is there to ban an IP but not his account?

Maybe he's made multiple accounts on that IP, and they didn't like that.
I really don't believe they'd ban this particular ISP, that would be like saying " we don't want 70% of the internet users in scandinavia browsing our forums."
And since Scandinavia isn't known for it's trojans viruses, phishing and other kinds of internet malevolence, except piracy, it's just highly unlikely they'd ip range ban.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 13:07    Post subject:
Norway's biggest ISP was banned from using CBFSMS for months Wink Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 14:10    Post subject:
XIII is still looking good and is very much playable, a good sign I suppose for cell-shade. Although it fits that game because it was made after a comic book and the whole game was made like that (you see 'tap' when someone is walking, 'blam' when shooting, 'kaboom' when you blow a truck up Laughing)
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 00:31    Post subject:
Claptrap episode 2.

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ixigia
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 00:35    Post subject:
Awesome. I was waiting for it
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 04:41    Post subject:
ha! awesome, love how they dun care abou the cursing n shit. More trailers like that are needed!


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Cedge




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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 06:25    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Well, cheers to piracy! The only tool we have to stick it back to the publishers.


Piracy is not a "tool to stick it back to the publishers." The only "tool" you have for that is whether or not you buy the game.

Yeah, if you have some stupid self-important bratty bitchfest problem with a 6 day delay, fine, "send them a message" by not buying the game. But that does NOT justify you getting to play the game (which cost millions of dollars, and dozens of people years of their lives to create, and like any commercial product, is relied on by it's producers for their livelihood) for free.

Not buying a game is fine. But thinking that you ever have any justification to pirate it is the most selfish thing I've ever heard. I don't like a lot of things about Walmart, but I don't think that could justify me shoplifting from them (which I don't do).

I'm no anti-piracy activist (I'm a massive offender, myself), but I would never, ever try to justify it. It is quantifiably wrong and not justified, and I think people who do it should at least be grown-up enough to own up to that.


sabin1981 wrote:
Needless delay is needless.


Ah, good, we have an expert on all the intricacies of modern multiplatform game development, who is also keen too all of Gearbox's internal issues. Good to know.
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 06:42    Post subject:
Cedge wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Well, cheers to piracy! The only tool we have to stick it back to the publishers.


Piracy is not a "tool to stick it back to the publishers." The only "tool" you have for that is whether or not you buy the game.

Yeah, if you have some stupid self-important bratty bitchfest problem with a 6 day delay, fine, "send them a message" by not buying the game. But that does NOT justify you getting to play the game (which cost millions of dollars, and dozens of people years of their lives to create, and like any commercial product, is relied on by it's producers for their livelihood) for free.

Not buying a game is fine. But thinking that you ever have any justification to pirate it is the most selfish thing I've ever heard. I don't like a lot of things about Walmart, but I don't think that could justify me shoplifting from them (which I don't do).

I'm no anti-piracy activist (I'm a massive offender, myself), but I would never, ever try to justify it. It is quantifiably wrong and not justified, and I think people who do it should at least be grown-up enough to own up to that.


sabin1981 wrote:
Needless delay is needless.


Ah, good, we have an expert on all the intricacies of modern multiplatform game development, who is also keen too all of Gearbox's internal issues. Good to know.


There's justification for piracy.
Sometimes games are fun to play but finished in 3 or 4 hours and they cost 50 euros.
And then of course those with to many bugs.
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Karmeck




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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 06:53    Post subject:
That dose not justify it.


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Cedge




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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 07:51    Post subject:
Ghworg wrote:
There's justification for piracy.
Sometimes games are fun to play but finished in 3 or 4 hours and they cost 50 euros.
And then of course those with to many bugs.


That falls into the exact same category as what I explained: if you don't think it's worth the price, then don't buy it. Go ahead and pirate it, I can't guilt trip you out of doing that, nor is that my intention. The bottom line is that that still does not justify you playing it for free.

Try again. Actually, don't, because it's indefensible.

djaoni wrote:
Claptrap episode 2.

These are fun, but I hope the actual game has less Christian Bale/Bill O'reilly/Movie director jokes. Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 07:58    Post subject:
please don't turn this into a piracy wrong or right debate please for fuck's sake
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 08:17    Post subject:
Cedge wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Well, cheers to piracy! The only tool we have to stick it back to the publishers.


Piracy is not a "tool to stick it back to the publishers." The only "tool" you have for that is whether or not you buy the game.

Yeah, if you have some stupid self-important bratty bitchfest problem with a 6 day delay, fine, "send them a message" by not buying the game. But that does NOT justify you getting to play the game (which cost millions of dollars, and dozens of people years of their lives to create, and like any commercial product, is relied on by it's producers for their livelihood) for free.

Not buying a game is fine. But thinking that you ever have any justification to pirate it is the most selfish thing I've ever heard. I don't like a lot of things about Walmart, but I don't think that could justify me shoplifting from them (which I don't do).

I'm no anti-piracy activist (I'm a massive offender, myself), but I would never, ever try to justify it. It is quantifiably wrong and not justified, and I think people who do it should at least be grown-up enough to own up to that.


sabin1981 wrote:
Needless delay is needless.


Ah, good, we have an expert on all the intricacies of modern multiplatform game development, who is also keen too all of Gearbox's internal issues. Good to know.


So did you hear about Assassin's Creed 2 getting pushed back by a quarter of a year for no real reason at all?
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 08:54    Post subject:
Hey buttnuggets; I'm gonna pirate this game simply BECAUSE of the delay. Not because I don't think it's worth the money, but BECAUSE OF THE DELAY. I had this game down as a day1 purchase, but I will NOT be held hostage by publishers treating me like a 2nd-fucking-class citizen.

Don't like it?

KISS MY ASS Cool Face

As for my knowledge on the "intricacies" on modern day development? Eat me. I don't see a single thing with this entire situation that *isn't* based on pure and simple greed. Delay the PC version, needlessly, in order to make the - more expensive - console version the only SKU on the market. Which does what, boys and girls? YES! It increases profits!

Greed, plain and simple.

I don't like greedy publishers or developers. In a bid to get more sales by artificially limiting the availability, they've just lost a sale.

That's a justification and it's righteous one Laughing
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