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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 04:17    Post subject:
I lucked out, a good friend of mine sold me one of his University keys for an absolute bargain. I've been running the official, direct from Microsoft, Win7 Professional x64 for a couple weeks now. Legit.

No fucking about with loaders or BIOS flashes Very Happy

Win7 is as fantastic now as it was back in December 08 with the first RC. IMO it's the best OS Microsoft have ever released, next to DOS.
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 08:36    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
If you guys recommend that, I will change the FAQ with this one. Indeed, I have had problems with the HAZAR loader too. Cheers for the info!


new loader worked for me and saves me the trouble of flashing the bios Smile


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madness




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 10:24    Post subject:
Thinking about switching to 7 from XP too.
A question: I have Elitegroup RX480-A mobo, they don't have win7 drivers specifically on their webpage...would regular Win2000/XP/Vista ones still work ?


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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 10:29    Post subject:
For me Vista drivers do the job Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 14:10    Post subject:
Yep, Vista and 7 are very similar (in the way 2000 and XP were back in the day), so Vista drivers should almost in all cases work great.
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 14:21    Post subject:
I'm using Vista drivers to any hardware I couldn't find Win7 specific drivers for. Works great.



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madness




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 21:02    Post subject:
Yes. Everything seems to be working...so far Very Happy

E: I made a new partition for 7. Kept my XP just in case, but when I boot it goes directly to 7... Confused
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Sep 2009 12:49    Post subject:
Kept XP? LOL... Razz What's with people and sticking with that old OS now that Win7 is around? Heck I even thought Vista worked perfectly fine..



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dingo_d
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Sep 2009 12:56    Post subject:
Usually you would edit the boot config in notepad but since Win7 has same boot loader as Vista (or based on) you're out of luck. You can try to edit it with some tools like VistaBootPro, or EasyBCD if I'm not mistaken...


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Sep 2009 13:40    Post subject:
kosmiq wrote:
Kept XP? LOL... Razz What's with people and sticking with that old OS now that Win7 is around? Heck I even thought Vista worked perfectly fine..


Some drivers like HP Scanjet 2200c doesnt works on a x64 W7...they use XP for em..even if they have to change OS to do one tiny thing...same with Pinnacle's Dazzle Video Creator Platinum (no drivers for Vista nor W7 for 64bit)

sucks,eh?...


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2009 15:28    Post subject:
Don't know if it was posted here before but I found a handy program that allows you to backup your Vista key and then simply transfer it to a new installation.

http://directedge.us/content/abr-activation-backup-and-restore

Check it out and tell me what you think.
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madness




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2009 18:42    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
Usually you would edit the boot config in notepad but since Win7 has same boot loader as Vista (or based on) you're out of luck. You can try to edit it with some tools like VistaBootPro, or EasyBCD if I'm not mistaken...


EasyBCD did the trick Very Happy thx
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2009 23:23    Post subject:
I just tested the above vista key backup program and it works perfectly. Thing is if you have a OEM version of Vista preinstalled it also need a certificate which doesn't get installed automaticaly. So by just entering a cdkey you won't have your windows fully activated. This program transfers cdkey and the certificate so my transition from 32 bit Home premium vista to 64 bit went without any problems. There is no need to phone Microsoft to get it activated. Hopefully the transition to Win7 also goes as planned when it is released.
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 04:53    Post subject:
so I thought I might try this on my laptop, but only has 1GB of memory, would the 32bit release run fine with 1GB


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 09:04    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
so I thought I might try this on my laptop, but only has 1GB of memory, would the 32bit release run fine with 1GB


It says that for 32- bit version that's the minimum... Try it and let us know! Smile


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson
chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 16:15    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
so I thought I might try this on my laptop, but only has 1GB of memory, would the 32bit release run fine with 1GB


Yes. I have 1GB as well..noticed some FPS drop in games though, didn't measure it with FRAPS but I think it did.
Otherwise runs great
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 16:37    Post subject:
I'm considering finally switching to Windows 7 (from XP).
What is the difference between 'bios mod users' and 'soft mod users' in the loader?

Also, anyone have experience with application compability?
I rely on: Alt.Binz, Filefillz (know this is supported), Putty, VLC, Winamp, Acronis Disk Director, Adobe CS4 Suite, Avast, Avisynth, Foxit, FFDShow Tryouts, Haali Media Splitter, O&O Defrag, PS3MS, Spybot S&D, and much more.
Can't say I use any outdated old software. Any experience with XP compability mode?


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 16:38    Post subject:
Soft mod = slic emulator driver
bios mod = flashed with modified BIOS,lol

So choose soft mod !
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 16:39    Post subject:
Personally, if it runs on vista, it tends to run on win7 ive found.. and im sure most of those are able in vista? I mean when i read xp these days it makes me think of ancient os Very Happy
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 16:57    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
I'm considering finally switching to Windows 7 (from XP).
What is the difference between 'bios mod users' and 'soft mod users' in the loader?

Also, anyone have experience with application compability?
I rely on: Alt.Binz, Filefillz (know this is supported), Putty, VLC, Winamp, Acronis Disk Director, Adobe CS4 Suite, Avast, Avisynth, Foxit, FFDShow Tryouts, Haali Media Splitter, O&O Defrag, PS3MS, Spybot S&D, and much more.
Can't say I use any outdated old software. Any experience with XP compability mode?


Every single one of those works. Acronis Disk Director was Vista-blocked for months, but they eventually released a version that works. I don't have any experience with PS3MS, so I can't answer for that - but the rest? All tried and tested working by me on Vista *and* Win7.
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 17:36    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I don't have any experience with PS3MS, so I can't answer for that

Just checked the release comments and it works perfect on Windows 7. So I guess I am all set to go. Thanks for the input Smile

moosenoodles wrote:
when i read xp these days it makes me think of ancient os Very Happy

Ancient, but still great. But I think it's time to switch now, before application support stops for XP, even though the OS itself is supported until 2014. But I don't regret skipping the worst disaster OS in Windows history, Vista (maybe a rival to ME? ).


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 17:59    Post subject:
Vista got an unnecessarily harsh rap, IMO. I'd been using Vista for nearly 2 years and I absolutely loved it. All the hassle everyone else said they had? Bullshit or PEBKAC.

The biggest complaints were about "memory usage" because the clueless dicks saw 1GB+ usage and instantly thought "ZOMG!! XP only uses 100MB!! Vista must be baaaaaad!" without understanding the principle behind superfetch.
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 18:58    Post subject:
The thing is, the Vista required waay much resources, for that time. Not all had 'raging beasts' under their hoods Wink Plus to use it properly, you would need to disable half of unnecessary services that ran in the background.

Win 7 does all that for you! For ex. you use bluetooth, the service starts, then you stop using it, and the service automatically stops and unloads itself from memory Smile

Win 7 rulz Very Happy


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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 19:53    Post subject:
Anyone who compares Vista to ME has no clue, as simple as that. He has not tried it, he has not given it a chance. He has only listened to other clueless people on the internets speaking clueless talk.
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 20:07    Post subject:
vista sucks more than ME did

yes the smartest person on this forum just schooled you
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 20:23    Post subject:
Aside from early driver problems at Vistas launch, I never had any serious performance or compatibility issue with Vista, was and is a solid OS.
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 20:25    Post subject:
Lol, what's with the constant "you haven't tried it" argument against vista haters ?

Yes, I tried it and it sucked for me, now win7 is out and Vista is more useless than win95. Shortest lived OS ever. In a few years ppl will be using vista as a cool alternative to the word "fail"

Anyway, this is a win7 thread, fuck the Vista-talk.
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 20:28    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Anyone who compares Vista to ME has no clue, as simple as that. He has not tried it, he has not given it a chance. He has only listened to other clueless people on the internets speaking clueless talk.

Certain people can't take a joke obviously. I used it in a dual-boot environment for a month before it went into the dustbin. Maybe it improved after SP1, I don't care. Assuming things is a fuck-up, Natan. All opinions on the OS aside, one does not need look any further than the market share, downgrade option, and tacky launch to know what a 'winner' of an OS Vista is. But none of this is news and you know it.

For me it looks like Windows 7 is a long overdue remedy, and I can't wait to give it a run.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Sep 2009 20:45    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Lol, what's with the constant "you haven't tried it" argument against vista haters ?

Yes, I tried it and it sucked for me, now win7 is out and Vista is more useless than win95. Shortest lived OS ever. In a few years ppl will be using vista as a cool alternative to the word "fail"

Anyway, this is a win7 thread, fuck the Vista-talk.


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iNatan wrote:
Anyone who compares Vista to ME has no clue, as simple as that. He has not tried it, he has not given it a chance. He has only listened to other clueless people on the internets speaking clueless talk.

Certain people can't take a joke obviously. I used it in a dual-boot environment for a month before it went into the dustbin. Maybe it improved after SP1, I don't care. Assuming things is a fuck-up, Natan. All opinions on the OS aside, one does not need look any further than the market share, downgrade option, and tacky launch to know what a 'winner' of an OS Vista is. But none of this is news and you know it.

For me it looks like Windows 7 is a long overdue remedy, and I can't wait to give it a run.
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