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The_Leaf




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2009 23:11    Post subject:
I watched all the stuff about this game on gametrailers today, and I have a question... is this game in any way inspired by Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time book saga?

Because just by the trailers, there are an awful lot of the same/similar names/themes, for example:

The Blight (seems to indicate slightly different things but essentially the same)
Gray Wardens--> warders
Darkspawn-->shadowspawn
Loagain and a couple of other corresponding names I don't remember
DragonPeak-->DragonMount

... probably I'm just delirious due to the heat and my geekiness thoward fantasy literature Very Happy
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tyrrin




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Aug 2009 23:56    Post subject: Lol
I never noticed that Leaf, but now that you mention it! It really sounds like a rip, omfg I cant wait for the last book in the wheel of time series... I cant believe Jordan died before it was finished... Now its being split in to 3 last books...
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metatron83




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Aug 2009 00:38    Post subject: Re: Lol
tyrrin wrote:
I never noticed that Leaf, but now that you mention it! It really sounds like a rip, omfg I cant wait for the last book in the wheel of time series... I cant believe Jordan died before it was finished... Now its being split in to 3 last books...

Frank Herbert also died before finishing his master work Dune Sad

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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Aug 2009 00:57    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
What the hell is this
https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/829607/davidgaider.jpg
Did he get younger or what?!
Omg i think he has a Benjamin Button syndrome Cool Face
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Aug 2009 08:20    Post subject:
mArkAntonioo wrote:
Epsilon wrote:
What the hell is this
https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/829607/davidgaider.jpg
Did he get younger or what?!
Omg i think he has a Benjamin Button syndrome Cool Face


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Koliblank




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Aug 2009 08:32    Post subject:
so many version for pre-oder that you cant decide what should buy ... heh (special edition, normal edition, collector edition, gold edition(lol) so many) Very Happy


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twobells
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 20:41    Post subject:
I read a piece suggesting that people haven't engaged with the game as much as Mass effect for example.
From my POV considering that Bioware are saying that it is the first true successor to Baldur's Gate makes it a HUGE deal.
Does anyone else feel like the author that DA:O hasn't got that same 'ummpf factor'?

offending article

TB


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 20:44    Post subject:
Actually, as much as I really want the game .... I'm not as super-hyped about it as I was, and still am for the most part, about games like Divinity 2 and Mass Effect 2.

Divinity 2, from the trailers right through to playing the game itself, grabbed me instantly. I've already finished it and I'll finish it again as soon as patch 1.2 is out - or the English version - whichever comes first.

As for Mass Effect 2? I want that more than the next Final Fantasy game, which is saying an awful lot Wink

Oh and one suggestion as to why gamers connected more with ME than they are currently doing with DA-O; We're truly, truly, TRULY sick to the back fucking teeth of elves and wizards and magic. Every RPG and it's grandfather has done that setting to death now. ME was something reasonably fresh and new :-\ That's not to saw DA-O isn't going to kick some serious ass -- because I most certainly believe it will. We're just sick of fantasy RPGs now (oh and before anyone chimes in with "I'm not! Stop generalising!" Fuck off, I don't care Razz Rolling Eyes Very Happy)


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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 20:44    Post subject:
twobells wrote:
I read a piece suggesting that people haven't engaged with the game as much as Mass effect for example.
From my POV considering that Bioware are saying that it is the first true successor to Baldur's Gate makes it a HUGE deal.
Does anyone else feel like the author that DA:O hasn't got that same 'ummpf factor'?

offending article

TB


It's got plenty of "ummpf" for me personally.


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fawe4




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 20:47    Post subject:
twobells wrote:
I read a piece suggesting that people haven't engaged with the game as much as Mass effect for example.
From my POV considering that Bioware are saying that it is the first true successor to Baldur's Gate makes it a HUGE deal.
Does anyone else feel like the author that DA:O hasn't got that same 'ummpf factor'?

offending article

TB


Its in the name. Its called Dragon Age. Dragon in a title makes people associate it with cliche ridden boorefest like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&redirs=1&search=dragon+film&limit=500&offset=0

...pick ten.
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 20:48    Post subject:
Bullshit, nothing from Bioware is low profile.
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 20:50    Post subject:
Mass Effect has more hype because it's pretty much a 3rd person shooter with RPG elements. Dragon Age is old school.


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Aquma




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 22:00    Post subject:
My personal hope for this game, is that it'll be deeper , longer and more complex then ME, which was dissapointingly short and shallow, at least for me.

I could second Sabin on the setting issue though, there certainly is a huge lack of anything other then fantasy in the genre (with some exceptions lately, like ME, ME2 or Alpha Protocol), but then again, a fantasy setting, if inspiring and done well, can still become an oustanding game, or even a masteripiece. As Divinity 2 proves. And going Old School kinda means a fantasy setting.

If they deliver on this "Baldur's Gate successor" promise, meaning a deep blend of engaging story, atmosphere and some actual exploration, i expect GOTY. If not, well, it still should be a good game. Hopefully, for more then 20h of playtime...
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 22:05    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Bullshit, nothing from Bioware is low profile.


Hey, it even has only 12 pages here and its been in developement since forever. I'd call that low profile.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 22:06    Post subject:
Aquma wrote:

If they deliver on this "Baldur's Gate successor" promise, meaning a deep blend of engaging story, atmosphere and some actual exploration, i expect GOTY. If not, well, it still should be a good game. Hopefully, for more then 20h of playtime...


Agreed 100%. Hey, this is Bioware afterall -- I believe they'll, quite easily, deliver an absolute masterpiece. If not? No biggie, it will still be a great RPG.


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 22:52    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
madmax17 wrote:
Bullshit, nothing from Bioware is low profile.


Hey, it even has only 12 pages here and its been in developement since forever. I'd call that low profile.


because they arent hyping the fuckass out of it. look at batman, fuckin posters and shit everywhere.


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rhagz
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 22:56    Post subject:
Wait until closer to release. It'll be everywhere. Web ads, in store ads, TV ads..
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Surray




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 23:53    Post subject:
dragon age is probably the game I'm most looking forward to this year.

I'm avoiding videos/previews/etc of it though because I don't want anything spoiled, plus that stuff makes the waiting all the more painful.
The few videos I've seen of it convinced me completely that this will be yet another excellent rpg by bioware.


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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 02:07    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
dragon age is probably the game I'm most looking forward to this year.

I'm avoiding videos/previews/etc of it though because I don't want anything spoiled, plus that stuff makes the waiting all the more painful.
The few videos I've seen of it convinced me completely that this will be yet another excellent rpg by bioware.

im looking forward to Dragon Age quite a bit and have been for quite a while. But I am looking forward to Borderlands a wee bit more I think. I really would love for someone to nail the Diablo meets FPS formula that Hellgate tried.


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S.S.S




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 02:07    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Actually, as much as I really want the game .... I'm not as super-hyped about it as I was, and still am for the most part, about games like Divinity 2 and Mass Effect 2.

Divinity 2, from the trailers right through to playing the game itself, grabbed me instantly. I've already finished it and I'll finish it again as soon as patch 1.2 is out - or the English version - whichever comes first.

As for Mass Effect 2? I want that more than the next Final Fantasy game, which is saying an awful lot Wink

Oh and one suggestion as to why gamers connected more with ME than they are currently doing with DA-O; We're truly, truly, TRULY sick to the back fucking teeth of elves and wizards and magic. Every RPG and it's grandfather has done that setting to death now. ME was something reasonably fresh and new :-\ That's not to saw DA-O isn't going to kick some serious ass -- because I most certainly believe it will. We're just sick of fantasy RPGs now (oh and before anyone chimes in with "I'm not! Stop generalising!" Fuck off, I don't care Razz Rolling Eyes Very Happy)


I'm not! Stop generalizing!

Razz

But seriously i have to agree with you. I'm not RPGs biggest fan but i do enjoy one once in a while . And yes i'm fucking sick of the medieval fantasy setting with dragons , dwarfs , elves , evil sorcerer and gay fairies as well just as much as i am sick of WW II games. There is always the exception to the rule like The Witcher but those are few and it's because they hav something special (In Witcher case it's the mature theme and raw feeling)

We need more mature and gritty RPGs set in modern time or the future. Mass Effect is a good start. Love the game.

That said i won't die happy until i see a remake or sequel to :



Now THAT'S the kind of badass RPGs i'm talking about. And no that shit that was released on 360 and PC doesn't count. It's dumbed down garbage that doesn't even compare to the greatness of the original.[/img]
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 02:40    Post subject:
S.S.S wrote:

I'm not! Stop generalizing!

Razz


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But seriously i have to agree with you. I'm not RPGs biggest fan but i do enjoy one once in a while . And yes i'm fucking sick of the medieval fantasy setting with dragons , dwarfs , elves , evil sorcerer and gay fairies as well just as much as i am sick of WW II games. There is always the exception to the rule like The Witcher but those are few and it's because they hav something special (In Witcher case it's the mature theme and raw feeling)


I honestly couldn't agree more! On both the "fantasy RPG" and the "Witcher" points. The Witcher was absolutely spectacular, a true gem in a sea of mediocrity, as was/is Divinity 2. They're both fantasy games, but they're done RIGHT.

Quote:

We need more mature and gritty RPGs set in modern time or the future. Mass Effect is a good start. Love the game.


Agreed again! Which is why I'm especially looking forward to ME2, Xenus 2 (aka; White Gold: War in Paradise), Greed (sci-fi hack'n'slash dungeon crawler, yummy!) and Alpha Protocol. Modern, or future, time RPGs is what the gaming market is lacking right now.


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That said i won't die happy until i see a remake or sequel to :



Now THAT'S the kind of badass RPGs i'm talking about. And no that shit that was released on 360 and PC doesn't count. It's dumbed down garbage that doesn't even compare to the greatness of the original.[/img]


Dude, I freaking LOVE you man! Shadowrun, SNES or Megadrive version, is one of my all-time favourite videogame RPGs - and the PNP/tabletop version IS my favourite, way more so than D&D or Warhammer 40k/Necro.

When I first heard that MS had bought the rights to FASA titles and were making a new Shadowrun game; I was over the moon. Absolutely overjoyed and was eagerly awaiting a new, kick-ass, RPG. Then came the announcement than it was going to be an arena-based multiplayer FPS.


..... that broke my heart Sad I'm just glad that FASA has now reacquired the Shadowrun, MechWarrior and Crimson Skies rights! Hopes are growing again for a *true* Shadowrun RPG.
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RRX2




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 03:28    Post subject:
Dragon Age has elves, dwarves and dragons, but it has a very unique setting. I've never played a RPG where the elves are treated as an inferior race, and I've played almost every RPG since Akalabeth: World of Doom.

This game will be my personal GOTY. I'm very excited with this one and Risen.


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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 03:45    Post subject:
RRX2 wrote:
Dragon Age has elves, dwarves and dragons, but it has a very unique setting. I've never played a RPG where the elves are treated as an inferior race, and I've played almost every RPG since Akalabeth: World of Doom.

This game will be my personal GOTY. I'm very excited with this one and Risen.


Hehe. In dwarf Fortress, Elves are cannibals.


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Aquma




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 10:06    Post subject:
RRX2 wrote:
Dragon Age has elves, dwarves and dragons, but it has a very unique setting. I've never played a RPG where the elves are treated as an inferior race, and I've played almost every RPG since Akalabeth: World of Doom.

This game will be my personal GOTY. I'm very excited with this one and Risen.


Play "The Witcher" then. Racism is a major theme there, with dwarfs , elves and such being treated as dirt by the majority of humans.
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RRX2




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 16:25    Post subject:
Aquma wrote:
RRX2 wrote:
Dragon Age has elves, dwarves and dragons, but it has a very unique setting. I've never played a RPG where the elves are treated as an inferior race, and I've played almost every RPG since Akalabeth: World of Doom.

This game will be my personal GOTY. I'm very excited with this one and Risen.


Play "The Witcher" then. Racism is a major theme there, with dwarfs , elves and such being treated as dirt by the majority of humans.


OMG! I forgot about the Scoia'tael in The Witcher, hehe. My mind was on a so distant past that I forgot about a recent game. Laughing
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Aquma




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 18:16    Post subject:
RRX2 wrote:
Aquma wrote:
RRX2 wrote:
Dragon Age has elves, dwarves and dragons, but it has a very unique setting. I've never played a RPG where the elves are treated as an inferior race, and I've played almost every RPG since Akalabeth: World of Doom.

This game will be my personal GOTY. I'm very excited with this one and Risen.


Play "The Witcher" then. Racism is a major theme there, with dwarfs , elves and such being treated as dirt by the majority of humans.


OMG! I forgot about the Scoia'tael in The Witcher, hehe. My mind was on a so distant past that I forgot about a recent game. Laughing


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 18:22    Post subject:
I remember when I got a dwarf hung in the witcher, man I felt like shit lol


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Sep 2009 21:09    Post subject:
Aquma wrote:
RRX2 wrote:
Dragon Age has elves, dwarves and dragons, but it has a very unique setting. I've never played a RPG where the elves are treated as an inferior race, and I've played almost every RPG since Akalabeth: World of Doom.

This game will be my personal GOTY. I'm very excited with this one and Risen.


Play "The Witcher" then. Racism is a major theme there, with dwarfs , elves and such being treated as dirt by the majority of humans.
And racism against npc's mothers "You're mother sucks dwarf cock!"
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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Sep 2009 00:32    Post subject:
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I remember when I got a dwarf hung in the witcher, man I felt like shit lol

It reminds me a moment in the Spakowski's book when Geralt was passing by few hangers, and each one got a badge on chest like : elvish spy, traitor, bastard, despite the one, and there, in book, was written something like : one was without the badge so we can assume that he was hang totally by mistake... That's why i love Sapkowski's writing and fell in love in game.
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