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RedCommissar




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 19:33    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
pretty nice list of changes for the very first patch.. impressive.
gogo paradox!


Even with this changes there is looooot to be desired... (Especially the map)

Thankfully its only on aesthetic (modifiable) level, so we'll just have to take punches from vanilla version until something better comes.

P.S.
But I still can't get around the poor feeling on how did they manage to misposition most important city (for instance Stalingrad) few hundred kilometers south of its real position. And even away from the river which goes next to it.
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Perdurab00




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 19:52    Post subject:
RedCommissar wrote:

Even with this changes there is looooot to be desired... (Especially the map)

Thankfully its only on aesthetic (modifiable) level, so we'll just have to take punches from vanilla version until something better comes.

P.S.
But I still can't get around the poor feeling on how did they manage to misposition most important city (for instance Stalingrad) few hundred kilometers south of its real position. And even away from the river which goes next to it.


Are you gonna keep posting this every half hour?
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 19:53    Post subject:
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Reworked alot of messages to eliminate all tpyos of bad spleling swedes


LuLz..
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 19:56    Post subject:
Perdurab00 wrote:
RedCommissar wrote:

Even with this changes there is looooot to be desired... (Especially the map)

Thankfully its only on aesthetic (modifiable) level, so we'll just have to take punches from vanilla version until something better comes.

P.S.
But I still can't get around the poor feeling on how did they manage to misposition most important city (for instance Stalingrad) few hundred kilometers south of its real position. And even away from the river which goes next to it.


Are you gonna keep posting this every half hour?


Of course he is, hes a ruskie...
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RedCommissar




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 20:12    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
Perdurab00 wrote:

Are you gonna keep posting this every half hour?


Of course he is, hes a ruskie...


Close call, and I wish I had more time inform you more regularly.

For instance, Rivers in Europe are totally out of sync with actual provinces and cities... Let us not forget imaginary rivers too.

Dear god, were they pushed into publishing for sake of schedule or what? Is there something wrong with scene release or something? I'm just asking for feedback from those who got this game for hard money.


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Imoen




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 20:13    Post subject:
HAHA the spanish civil war over after TWO, yes TWO MONTHS! Good grief that is poor, fix please.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 20:14    Post subject:
well if it detracts from playability with say AI not noticing water should be there, then its game breaking for historical purposes yes, if not then no biggie till new map appears..

What Im looking out for is the two sprite packs now, suprised they havent been put out already really...
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greengriffin




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 20:17    Post subject:
Imoen wrote:
HAHA the spanish civil war over after TWO, yes TWO MONTHS! Good grief that is poor, fix please.


Fix what? Events are no longer tethered to a strict timeline.

History will play out differently with each game.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 20:26    Post subject:
yeah not sure id like to have "historical" outcomes all the time, it would be more fun to have random outcomes than tethered to a "must happen" scenario.
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RedCommissar




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 21:11    Post subject:
Talking about historical outcomes... I've replayed 1936 campaign 9 times, and every time Civil war in Spain ends somewhere between 2-5 months tops. Its hardly an alternative when its constant.

When in reality it lasted from July 1936 till late March 1939.


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Imoen




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 21:12    Post subject:
Nono don't get me wrong, I do no want a ww2 just like rl, but TWO MONTHS? Something is wrong, that never ever ever ever not even close happend in hoi2. But since you all go down in your defensive positions im not going to discuss the bugs any further. I guess it will take a few months before it's playable the way it should be. Don't get me wrong again, I will play.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 21:15    Post subject:
Ah if its tried and tested more than often this is happening then yeah I shall agree with you.. Patch 1.1 was a nice amount of changes, but it obviously is in need of a little bit more eh... They never fail to deliver patches so fingers crossed.. And of course there is the community mods etc.

All is not lost.. I will be drudging the strategy guide tonight when the kids asleep for sure..
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 21:30    Post subject:
can i update the skidrow version ? wanna try the game first before buy without to many bugs Smile
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 21:47    Post subject:
Yeah you can update it with the patch link a few posts back...
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clragon




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 21:57    Post subject:
is there any way to start war faster? spies working to increase threat/ decrease neutrality takes foreeever.
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inz




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 22:05    Post subject:
clragon wrote:
is there any way to start war faster? spies working to increase threat/ decrease neutrality takes foreeever.


Isn't it tied to your form of government? As in, be a dictator and you can start a war at a whim.
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clragon




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 22:29    Post subject:
inz wrote:
clragon wrote:
is there any way to start war faster? spies working to increase threat/ decrease neutrality takes foreeever.


Isn't it tied to your form of government? As in, be a dictator and you can start a war at a whim.


I am playing as republic of china and I am trying to declare war on communist china before they become a big problem. the problem is that after WWI the communists are allied with me and our relationship is pretty good. they are however really weak so I can easily crush them if only I could declare war Sad
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Aug 2009 22:35    Post subject:
Ha, I like how they have Hitler giving you the tutorial.
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Stevenmack65




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 13:08    Post subject:
wouldnt be WW2 unless it was Hitler
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Surray




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 13:36    Post subject:
I thought the tutorial was horrible... it doesn't really explain too much, really just gives you an overview of the basic interface, and the hitler thing sucked too.
They should concentrate on telling you how things work instead of pulling lame jokes and having half of the tutorial text beeing some bullshit about what you apparently think about the strange mad guy telling you what to do...


Likot Mosuskekim, Woodcutter cancels Sleep: Interrupted by Elephant.
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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 13:53    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
I thought the tutorial was horrible... it doesn't really explain too much, really just gives you an overview of the basic interface, and the hitler thing sucked too.
They should concentrate on telling you how things work instead of pulling lame jokes and having half of the tutorial text beeing some bullshit about what you apparently think about the strange mad guy telling you what to do...


Agree, it's difficult enough to remember it all without those lame jokes.
I need a good tutorial because i can't even figure out some basics as how to move a single ship in another group, and how to relocate from one port to another (relocate button alsway grayed out)

I do feel stupid with this game Very Happy
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Clevesa




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 13:56    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
I thought the tutorial was horrible... it doesn't really explain too much, really just gives you an overview of the basic interface, and the hitler thing sucked too.
They should concentrate on telling you how things work instead of pulling lame jokes and having half of the tutorial text beeing some bullshit about what you apparently think about the strange mad guy telling you what to do...


Yep, lame tutorial!

I guess reading the manual is the only way of understanding wtf is going on
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 14:29    Post subject:
Are you people asking for a manual previous HOI players?


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inz




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 14:33    Post subject:
Worst tutorial I've seen in a loooong time. Razz
Honestly anyone that's new to the series is better off waiting for some in-depth game guide, or even read the guides for HoI 2 and go from there.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 15:37    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
Are you people asking for a manual previous HOI players?


I played HoI and HoI2 for countless hours, but didn't play them for like 2 years or so no now and forgot a lot.
I was hoping going through the tutorial would help refresh my memory, but the tutorial was useless and I'm still genuinly confused.

I guess after playing a while and getting my ass kicked it'll all come back to me, but I don't see someone new to HoI having the slightest idea of what to do after going through the tutorial.

There appears to be a free guide available for people who register the game though, but not sure how good that is.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 16:26    Post subject:
Hearts.of.Iron.III.Sprite.Packs-SKIDROW
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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 17:21    Post subject:
Could someone please upload the pdfs from this thread somewhere else?
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416126
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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 17:43    Post subject:
Heard the inaccuracy of the map of Argentina is insulting, too. I wouldn't be surprised if many other countries had this kind of gruesome errors.
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frozen12
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 17:45    Post subject:
Quote:
Hearts.of.Iron.III.Sprite.Packs-SKIDROW


usual SKIDROW shit. them have release a retail game + some file taken from steam as well Laughing
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Aug 2009 17:54    Post subject:
frozen12 wrote:
Quote:
Hearts.of.Iron.III.Sprite.Packs-SKIDROW


usual SKIDROW shit. them have release a retail game + some file taken from steam as well Laughing



typical boundle shit, couldn't write proper english if his live'd depend on it ^^
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