Comparable monitor to macintosh retina display
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Pfiemelcheese




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2013 12:51    Post subject: Comparable monitor to macintosh retina display
Okay, considering I value your opinions on hardware and I know the nfohumpers are adept at filtering down on the good stuff I have following hard question for you guys. I want to track down a good 27" monitor for my pc which has the same vibrant colours the macintosh retina screens offer.

My search started when a colleague of mine came by with a dell xps 15 laptop featuring a 15.6" Full HD 1080p Truelife WLED Display. This laptop screen had this same vibrance and depth of colour, it was just amazing to look at.

So now I am on the hunt for a nice glossy looking 27" screen to replace my 25.5" screen I have now. I found a few comparable screens in the following,

Dell Ultrasharp U2713
SAMSUNG Series 9 S27B970D High Gloss Black/Brushed Aluminum 27"
Dell S2740L

so far these are what I could track down in terms of comparable retina looks, but I would really like to hear other suggestions from you guys, I do not care about reflections of these glossy screens, my room is always dimmed seeing as I am on my attic. So the glossier the better, as long as the colours are deep, true and similar to a retina mac screen and the response time is around 7ms or lower it could be a possible candidate for me.

Thnx in advance


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2013 14:36    Post subject:
What about those 1440p Korean displays? I heard they are bloody good...

http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77538


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2013 14:52    Post subject:
S27B970D is your best bet.
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Pfiemelcheese




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2013 15:29    Post subject:
I read the korean screen topic and I do like the looks of the screens but in terms of quality the samsung packs quite a punch, the price however is very steep, and thats the only thing on which I am still stuck.

Maybe I will just wait a bit more, do any of you guys know when the new panels will come out, it might drop the price of the current PLS/IPS panels.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2013 18:27    Post subject:
I also saw this one,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CROSSOVER-NEW-27QD-LED-BLADE-2560x1440-DVI-D-Dual-LG-S-IPS-27-Speaker-Monitor-/111000620008?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_Monitors&hash=item19d8270be8

its a Crossover 27QD Led Blade

its even cheaper and apparently newer, what's the difference in specs then?


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2013 18:31    Post subject:
I think Blade means that it comes with built in speakers.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2013 20:07    Post subject:
The old U2711, these Korean things and Apple's Cinema displays all use the same panel from LG. Only difference is that the Korean ones are "A-" grade instead of "A", meaning they MAY show pixel defects; LG doesn't guarantee there are none on them, that's why Dell and Apple don't want them.

Between Dell and Apple, anyone going for the Apple ones is a plain retard. No, really, they are. Literally identical panels, difference being that Dell cost half as much and come calibrated properly out of the box. The new 2713 beats its older sibling, so nothing has changed. The Apple looks flashier, but I've found that the Dell feels sturdier. Now, the Korean ones are roughly at Apple's level in terms of image quality. Obviously, they're no match for neither Dell's nor Apple's build quality. As a bonus though, they tend to get to higher refresh rates and obviously they're priced properly.

The Samsung displays are really good, but also overpriced; Samsung are slowly trying to become another Apple, charging lots for aesthetics. My main concern with Samsung however is the inevitable panel lottery. I don't think there's a single of their monitor ranges that has kept the same panel (or same quality panel) throughout its lifespan, so before you even consider one, browse some forums to see what people are reporting. Places like OCC, [H], AT usually get a thread if one of the high profile monitors has a lottery behind it.

Last but not least, don't stare yourself blind (Cool Face) on the glossy part for vibrant colours. You'll find that the good monitors all have several colour presets, one of which will be similar to the oversaturated "retina" displays. My Eizos can match one of those , I highly doubt a Dell for example couldn't.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2013 20:39    Post subject:
You aren't entirely correct.

The Apple and Samsung displays (while using different panels) have a glass exterior that is coated with an anti-glare compound. The Dell panel and any number of other IPS panels made by LG either have the typical anti-glare coating or in the case of the cheap korean ones may have no coating at all.

I personally go with HP displays myself (For LG IPS) as they strike a good balance between quality (Build quality of the housing, stand, warranty options, etc..) and price. While they tend to not be as feature filled as the Dell displays they are typically cheaper but just because they are cheaper doesn't mean the actual housing/stand/build quality suffers. They are just missing the additional inputs and OSD options the Dell's tend to have.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2013 20:46    Post subject:
Dell U2713H obviously.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2013 21:14    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
The Apple and Samsung displays (while using different panels) have a glass exterior that is coated with an anti-glare compound. The Dell panel and any number of other IPS panels made by LG either have the typical anti-glare coating or in the case of the cheap korean ones may have no coating at all.

I was talking about the actual LCD panel underneath. In the Apples, Dells and Korean ones it's all the exact same model by LG. Whatever the fuck they decide to do on top of that is obviously different, but it's the same thing underneath Smile

LM270WQ1, LM270WQ2 depending on the year, the Q2 is a true 10-bit panel. 2713HM is LM270QW1-SLB2 - 8-bit but overall every bit as capable as the previous one and Dell calibrated it even better than they did with the 2711.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2013 21:35    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Mchart wrote:
The Apple and Samsung displays (while using different panels) have a glass exterior that is coated with an anti-glare compound. The Dell panel and any number of other IPS panels made by LG either have the typical anti-glare coating or in the case of the cheap korean ones may have no coating at all.

I was talking about the actual LCD panel underneath. In the Apples, Dells and Korean ones it's all the exact same model by LG. Whatever the fuck they decide to do on top of that is obviously different, but it's the same thing underneath Smile

LM270WQ1, LM270WQ2 depending on the year, the Q2 is a true 10-bit panel. 2713HM is LM270QW1-SLB2 - 8-bit but overall every bit as capable as the previous one and Dell calibrated it even better than they did with the 2711.


I wasn't questioning that.

I was simply saying that the added price to both the Samsung and Apple are there for a functional reason. The semi-glossy glass topped display is the best of both worlds and allows for the rich colors one gets on a very glossy display without the horrible reflections.

Frankly, I think that is worth the money more so then the features one finds in the Dell displays. If one doesn't want the semi-glossy glass panel then just get the cheap korean displays or HP. Most users out there don't need a million different OSD/Scaling features and all the inputs that the Dell's have. Nor do the Dell's tend to rank much better then HP when it comes to calibration of the panel.
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