Anyone know how to delete a file that refuses to be deleted?
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NecroViolator




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jun 2009 20:03    Post subject: Anyone know how to delete a file that refuses to be deleted?
Ive tried everything to delete the crap but cant get rid of it...
Even Kill Box...
Tried wipe delete but when I open file it says "cannot open file"...

Im logged in as Admin, tried to copy, move, del nothing works...

Need help please...

Thanks...
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deelix
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jun 2009 20:11    Post subject:
try rightdelete, its freeware.
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2bits




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jun 2009 20:12    Post subject:
try using forcedelete
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jun 2009 20:16    Post subject:
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NecroViolator




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jun 2009 20:33    Post subject:
Thanks guys / gals...

Man Ive used Killbox before and it worked but not on this file...

It was a game, old Dos game around 27Meg and ended with .zip...
Wonder why it couldnt be deleted...

So my last question is was it a Spyware file or something like that ???
And I really need a spyware program , so which is the best Smile...

Thanks people...
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Newty182




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jun 2009 20:33    Post subject:
I say format. Laughing


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nerrd




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 03:29    Post subject:
NecroViolator wrote:
And I really need a spyware program , so which is the best Smile


You can start with Spyware Doctor, get it free with google pack. BY FAR not the best program to use but it's free. Also you should try Prevx. No free or cracked version afaik, but at least you can download a free version that will scan without cleaning, and show you what you got.
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todd72173




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 04:18    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
I say use Unlocker !

http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/


Second that! Unlocker is best thing for this.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 05:27    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
I say use Unlocker !

http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/

Sad No 64-bit version - because the developer doesn't have a 64-bit CPU Laughing

I tend to use Process Explorer these days, as a replacement of Task Manager, and it has the option to search for handles (the things that make the files undeletable). Smile
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swingman




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 05:41    Post subject:
Close the folder where the file is located. Open dos window and cd your way to the dir with file and del the sucker. Works even on 0 kb files that refuse to be deleted with KillBox. If the filename is longer than 8 characters then be sure to use the dos filename. Use 'dir /x' to find out dos name of the file.
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 05:46    Post subject:
A "DOS window" will not be able to delete the file if there is an open handle. What these programs do is locate and allow for killing the handles that prevent deletion in the first place. Smile
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swingman




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 05:50    Post subject:
I have had several files which refused to be deleted with the 'file may be in use' message and del got rid of them fine. And dos don't care much about handles.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 05:58    Post subject:
But what you are running is not DOS, it's a gimped emulator which is still constrained by the OS itself and its API. Simple way to see this is ineffective is to open a new document in Word (not WordPad, Word), save it somewhere and while Word is still open with the file, try deleting it from the DOS window. You will receive an error:

"The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process."

Smile
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swingman




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 06:08    Post subject:
You're right. I guess it only works on files that are not really being used by any open applications but are just 'stuck' according to windows.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 06:20    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
I say format. Laughing


wow you should have learned something from this thread now Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 06:21    Post subject:
swingman wrote:
You're right. I guess it only works on files that are not really being used by any open applications but are just 'stuck' according to windows.

I think I know why it worked for you. Sometimes Explorer tries to generate previews of stuff and handles get hung, and when you close the folder, perhaps the handles get released and you can delete from the command prompt.

This is a very annoying behavior by Windows, and MS doesn't seem to care much about it, same stuff happens in Windows 7 as it did in 2000. Sad
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WaldoJ
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 06:56    Post subject:
appz running in bg can't be deleted
ctrl + alt + del
close proccessessseseses and delete... fawk Razz


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NecroViolator




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 09:28    Post subject:
Some crazy posts Smile

I started in Safe Mode with Command Prompt and wrote del *.zip and it deleted the shit file...
I tried to install a AntiSpyware program but Commodo Firewall says it tried to install some spyware from the antispyware program... WTF ???

I tried the "Webroot Spy Sweeper V6"... Its supposed to be the best, but Commodo refuses to let it install...LOL...

Damn a Antispyware program installing Spyware ??? Very Happy...
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 12:34    Post subject:
tuneup utilities / tuneup shredder
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manu_xl




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 13:04    Post subject:
most of the time (not to say always) just killing explorer.exe process will do the job. relaunch explorer.exe and delete the file
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Newty182




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 13:04    Post subject:
kenny64 wrote:
Newty182 wrote:
I say format. Laughing


wow you should have learned something from this thread now Razz


Joke..


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shole




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 21:20    Post subject:
process explorer can force close file handles even while the application using it is running (can cause a crash though)
one foolproof method is to rename the file and reboot and then delete it
if however file permissions are messed up (for example, you set file permissions to deny all), you'll need a linux boot cd/dvd like knoppix
no windows system can ever touch it
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Rinze
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2009 22:44    Post subject:
That's wrong, if you're administrator you can go to advanced permissions and take ownership, whatever the permissions, after that you can change permissions.
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shole




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2009 02:45    Post subject:
on vista/w7 perhaps, haven't tried it.. but not on xp atleast
tried that and couldn't touch it
i think securom created files like this at some point, but i never looked up on it
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2009 02:51    Post subject:
The advanced security settings in XP are very similar to Vista's/7's.
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