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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Apr 2009 23:30    Post subject:
CHEERS MATE grinhurt...i should wait for a spanish version of RC...then i can cum grinhurt <<

...All the software/hardware works on W7 32bit,to start with?,like a Vista with SP1


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Apr 2009 23:36    Post subject:
I can't speak for EVERY device, since I don't have every device, heh, but everything I do have worked as fine on Win7 as they did on WinVista.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2009 23:10    Post subject:
ok,tried W7 RC 64bit

That's...a GOD....damn FAST....but same RAM consuming grinhurt..its ok its ok

Would you guys recommend me to jump on the Vista 64bit wagon and have XP on a smaller HDD for the software/hardware that's not compatible on Vista 64bit to work there?..i know it sounds pain in the ass to change OS here n there to do this n that...but i'm kinda tired of all this ol XP shit.....but i need opinions engineers...

Opinions ENGINEERS!


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2009 23:22    Post subject:
Enough with the RAM usage complaint, already. Jesus H.

Forget XP, it's old and tired .. lol. I've not encountered any games or apps that won't work on Vista (and now, subsequently, Windows 7) - so I binned XP for good and have been running Vista (again, now Win7) exclusively.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2009 23:27    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
ok,tried W7 RC 64bit

That's...a GOD....damn FAST....but same RAM consuming grinhurt..its ok its ok

Would you guys recommend me to jump on the Vista 64bit wagon and have XP on a smaller HDD for the software/hardware that's not compatible on Vista 64bit to work there?..i know it sounds pain in the ass to change OS here n there to do this n that...but i'm kinda tired of all this ol XP shit.....but i need opinions engineers...

Opinions ENGINEERS!


upgrade your freakin hw

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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2009 23:34    Post subject:
I said its ok,i have 4GB grinhurt

Ok,i'll think about it...but i ask again..is it good to put Vista x64 on my big HDD for daily stuff n XP for the Scanner/Capturer?...just wanting to make sure..i'm recollecting people's opinions


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2009 23:46    Post subject:
no it's a sin and god will not forgive u!
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2009 23:51    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
I said its ok,i have 4GB grinhurt

Ok,i'll think about it...but i ask again..is it good to put Vista x64 on my big HDD for daily stuff n XP for the Scanner/Capturer?...just wanting to make sure..i'm recollecting people's opinions


why on earth do people are willing to use xp nowadays is beyond my imagination Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2009 00:11    Post subject:
unless they have p3 with 512mb of ram or using old hw that ppl lazy enough to deliver fresh drivers, neither do i
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2009 22:07    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
is it good to put Vista x64 on my big HDD for daily stuff n XP for the Scanner/Capturer?
Virtualization for XP maybe? Try VMware Workstation.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st May 2009 02:54    Post subject:
Nothing we didn't already really know, but the Windows 7 x64 RC available now on MSDN is identical to the earlier x64 7100 leak.

Leaked x64 7100:
SHA1:fc867fe1ab2e0a9796f9e4d155b44ea6998f4874
Filename: 7100.0.090421-1700_x64fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRC1CULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso

MSDN x64 7100:
SHA1: FC867FE1AB2E0A9796F9E4D155B44EA6998F4874
Filename: en_windows_7_ultimate_rc_x64_dvd_347803.iso
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Teramos




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st May 2009 18:24    Post subject:
there is also a language pack out there in the wild

en_fr_de_ja_es_windows_7_rc_language_pack_x64_dvd_347834.iso
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2009 10:24    Post subject:
XP MODE is out -

Code:
Microsoft.Windows.Virtual.PC.and.Windows.XP.Mode.for.Windows.7.Build.7100.x86-WinBeta
Microsoft.Windows.Virtual.PC.and.Windows.XP.Mode.for.Windows.7.Build.7100.x64-WinBeta


chill out man, life is beautifull...
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2009 14:46    Post subject:
i've got a small annoyin' problem on Windows 7 RC 32bit

Playin Team Fortress 2 windowed on 1680x1### resolution 16:9

On windows XP normally i drag n dropped the window up so the top bar with the game's title didnt appeard and more screen was shown...also with this im able 2 go to Start and taskbar shit quickly

on Windows 7 whenever i try hide the top bar but it resets to its default position...is there a way to disable this shit?


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2009 19:29    Post subject:
You sure it's not the gestures taking your window and maximizing it?
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2009 20:44    Post subject:
If it's the auto-size-thingy when you move a window near the edges of the screen it can be turned off:

Control Panel - Ease of Access - Change how your mouse works - Prevent windows from being automatically arranged when moved to the edge of the screen.

Weird place to put that particular option if you ask me, but there it is, if that's what you were looking for.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2009 21:04    Post subject:
Thanks,i'll test it later...so far so awesome W7 <3...32bit...everything works as it should

Things to test:

-Wacom Bamboo Black
-Trillian Astra Build 103
-TEAM FORTRESS 2 online match (Graphic stuff performance etc...)
-HP Scanjet 2200c (Scanner)
-HP Deskjet 5940 (Printer)

If everything works...welcome home...

Oh yeah,there's this other thing...

Installed Messenger 2009 with apatch n msn plus (no probs)...the thing is..that the messenger icon's not on the bottom right anymore (like XP/Vista)..it's at the bottom left (windows at taskbar)..there are 2 icons,the user icon and the contact list..if u close the contact list from taskbar u can just press the user icon and bring it back,but if u close the user icon it closes the whole program...any fix?,or Microsoft forgot about us freaks? grinhurt

That's all for now...


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2009 22:03    Post subject:
Fakir wrote:
XP MODE is out -

Code:
Microsoft.Windows.Virtual.PC.and.Windows.XP.Mode.for.Windows.7.Build.7100.x86-WinBeta
Microsoft.Windows.Virtual.PC.and.Windows.XP.Mode.for.Windows.7.Build.7100.x64-WinBeta

So anyone tried it out yet? Any feedback? I'm too lazy to plug my hdd with Win7 on it and try myself


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2009 22:12    Post subject:
I tried. Then I realised Intel butt-fucked the E7xxx purchasers. Hardware-assisted Virtualisation is on every goddamn series of Core2 *except* the E7xxx. VirtualXP doesn't work without it.






This will tell if your chip supports VT.

http://www.grc.com/securable.htm
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2009 22:56    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Installed Messenger 2009 with apatch n msn plus (no probs)...the thing is..that the messenger icon's not on the bottom right anymore (like XP/Vista)..it's at the bottom left (windows at taskbar)..there are 2 icons,the user icon and the contact list..if u close the contact list from taskbar u can just press the user icon and bring it back,but if u close the user icon it closes the whole program...any fix?,or Microsoft forgot about us freaks? grinhurt

That's all for now...


Another slightly annoying thing that have a simple solution:

Open start menu, find the Windows Live subfolder in "All Programs", right click "Windows Live Messenger" and change compatibility to Vista (SP1 or SP2, doesn't really matter), close and restart Messenger and voila, it will act like it does in XP and Vista. Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2009 23:13    Post subject:
Hahaha Sabin, wtf, didn't know about that... Even my old E6600 has VT. :\
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2009 23:30    Post subject:
Yeah, tell me about it. I guess NOW I know why VMWare was running like shite a few months back Evil or Very Mad I can't fucking believe Intel cut I-VT out of the E7xxx line .. what the shit is that about? It's bad enough we only got 3MB of L2, but to lose another component too?

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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2009 23:59    Post subject:
Ok,here comes the last of my problems and it seems W7 itself cant fix it..

HP Deskjet 5940

Tried installing with the XP drivers,but nothing...usin W7's "Configuration" makes new errors appear (Dll's i think)

With the Vista 32bit drivers it says that's not compatible...W7's configuration works!,but printer doesnt appear at photoshop CS4 nor any other place...wtf?...Do you guys think HP will release W7 drivers for it?

EDIT: Is it me or does some old games like WORMS World Party and a few other's graphics look like SHIT?...Age Of Empires works,but WWP works but with ultra shitty graphics (looks like a negative photo)

Are the video drivers the problem?,usin' latest W7 nvidia graphic drivers..and i tried the XP / Vista compatibility


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd May 2009 16:13    Post subject:
Bit late regarding that XP "virtualization" thing but Sabin you probably won't miss much with it as it uses the CPU for hardware acceleration for stuff like DirectX or OpenGL acceleration instead of the GPU so "gaming" isn't that useful for it.
(Older applications might have a use for it however.)

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,682731/Windows-7-with-integrated-Windows-XP/News/
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd May 2009 19:47    Post subject:
I wonder why they don't allow for gpu hardware acceleration. The simplest and most effective way would be to just forward the calls, at least in fullscreen mode. But yeah, with Intel VT (and the AMD equivalent), apps in the VM work almost transparently performance wise. I wonder why Intel would not put it in the E7XXX line. Could be artificially locked, and somehow crackable, but not sure about that.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th May 2009 04:17    Post subject:
Quick question...
is it worth installing the latest RC1 on notebook 1.6ghz 1gb ddr2 gf7400m ?
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th May 2009 04:29    Post subject:
I'd install it if I could get past this dumbass error Code 5!

I've heard nothing but good things about Win7 so I say that's a dumb question :B

On second note maybe you shouldn't cuz Win7 requires 2GB of ram but you might be able to cheat your way to Win7 gloriness!
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th May 2009 05:05    Post subject:
On my 1GB laptop it works much faster than Vista. Smile

Ci2e, now that you asked in the proper thread, I will answer. Very Happy You can install without booting from a DVD. Just extract the ISO to a temp folder (preferably on your boot HDD), and run the setup from there. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th May 2009 05:07    Post subject:
are you talking about extracting the contents of the dvd onto my C: drive and then running setup.exe while running XP or booting to DOS (I forget how to do this) and running the install?
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th May 2009 05:20    Post subject:
Nah, no DOS needed. You extract it to C:\, then from Windows just run the setup. Smile The only problem with this is, you cannot install a 64bit OS from within a 32bit OS. But if both are 32bit or 64bit, then no problem. Also, setup is much faster that way. Smile
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