4Ghz On water so far(picture inside)
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Van.Helsing




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 12:02    Post subject: 4Ghz On water so far(picture inside)
Ok i no it's not a great feat, but for me it is, with a fair amount of experimentation with the FSB and Multiplier plus HT Link as this motherboard doesn't have an NB Multiplier.

http://f.imagehost.org/0048/4ghz.jpg
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 12:51    Post subject:
Is it stable? Have you tried running this? This is what I was recommended when I started OC'ing to test how stable my CPU is. Smile
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Van.Helsing




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 13:38    Post subject:
Well i ran it for 24 hour's also whilst doing multiple application's, no crashes, reaching about 47C which i wasn't happy about, so i dropped the NB voltage down, from 1.5v(red) to 1.425(white) and it's producing quite a lot less heat, but i'm going to stress test it running Crysis and probably WiC, basically real world situation's, which i'm very optimistic it'll run stable.
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 14:10    Post subject:
Neither games would stress the CPU properly, just like running it for 24 hours doing multiple apps. CPUs of today are rarely stressed properly (for example, running an app that stresses 100% of one of the cores is really doing nothing to test the entire CPU). Smile Orthos can test all cores at once, doing some crazy floating point tests, so that is recommended. Smile
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 15:24    Post subject:
use prime95 if you want to stress the fuck out of your CPU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime95


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Van.Helsing




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 15:57    Post subject:
Thing is, i don't really want to stress the fuck out of it, i just want it to run my game's stable, and considering no game's run all 4 core's at 100%, i personally find that test irrelevant to everyone's taste and/or need, but each to there own, i know my opinion is not the 'right' way to go about it, but everyone is different you know.

P.S. Don't flame me for the way i do thing's, it's a personal opinion.
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swingman




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 18:43    Post subject:
Nice! Now if only AMD could improve their architecture to really punch it out with intel.

As long the compupter doesn't crash or freeze while doing all the normal things then you should be happy. So what if it doesn't pass prime95 or orthos. Only one thing - 1.6V! Atleast the cooling is coping well.
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 19:00    Post subject:
swingman wrote:
As long the compupter doesn't crash or freeze while doing all the normal things then you should be happy. So what if it doesn't pass prime95 or orthos. Only one thing - 1.6V! Atleast the cooling is coping well.


You wouldn't be saying that if you were spanking the monkey and you suddenly got a BSOD Laughing


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Van.Helsing




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 20:01    Post subject:
I have taken bot the NB voltage and CPU voltage down, now runnin at 1.55V, coretemp showing 34C-37C whilst idle, about to run Crysis to put some strain on her.
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 22:45    Post subject:
Van.Helsing wrote:
Thing is, i don't really want to stress the fuck out of it, i just want it to run my game's stable, and considering no game's run all 4 core's at 100%, i personally find that test irrelevant to everyone's taste and/or need, but each to there own, i know my opinion is not the 'right' way to go about it, but everyone is different you know.

P.S. Don't flame me for the way i do thing's, it's a personal opinion.


IF you want to run your games stable then you have ot make sure your system is stable. Once oyu start getting random BSOD's your going to be sitting there scratching your head wondering what's wrong. Memory can through CRC errors, CPU heatsink could be seated just right to work normally but once it starts heating up it could case issues. That's the point of these tests, to make sure your new 1000K+ investment is working like it should be.

swingman wrote:
Nice! Now if only AMD could improve their architecture to really punch it out with intel.

As long the compupter doesn't crash or freeze while doing all the normal things then you should be happy. So what if it doesn't pass prime95 or orthos. Only one thing - 1.6V! Atleast the cooling is coping well.


come again? The new Phenom II CPU's have hit 6GHz on overclocking. Granted the 6ghz was a less than traditional method of cooling but they were able to hit 4GHz on straight air cooling

Quote:
What was perhaps most impressive was AMD’s demonstration of the product and their overclocking prowess with the chip. On display were several machines setup to overclock with everything from standard air cooling to water, phase change refrigeration and finally Liquid Nitrogen. On air, the Phenom II X4 was able to hit around 4GHz at 1.55V with 32ºC temps. With water cooling at 1.6V the new Phenom II X4 broke 4GHz with a 39ºC core temp and in a Vapochill setup we saw 4.4+GHz. The final icing on the cake, so to speak, was the LN2 setup where the Phenom II ran stable at speeds well in excess of 5GHz and booted at speeds in excess of 6GHz.


http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Sneak-Peeks-Phenom-II-Overclocks-To-5GHz/

Not trying to derail the topic but anywho


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swingman




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 23:25    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
come again? The new Phenom II CPU's have hit 6GHz on overclocking. Granted the 6ghz was a less than traditional method of cooling but they were able to hit 4GHz on straight air cooling


Let's not go down the gigahertz road again. Very Happy But the fact remains that even an overclocked Phenom II lags in performance behind not only i7 but also some older quads. And hyperthreading puts the performance crown even more out of AMD's hands. But I am sure that the people at AMD already know that and are working on the problem.
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 23:28    Post subject:
swingman wrote:


Let's not go down the gigahertz road again. Very Happy But the fact remains that even an overclocked Phenom II lags in performance behind not only i7 but also some older quads. And hyperthreading puts the performance crown even more out of AMD's hands. But I am sure that the people at AMD already know that and are working on the problem.


in 4 years i will build my own CPU that will pwn both intel and amd! now what? HA?


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Paintface




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 10:52    Post subject:
swingman wrote:
SpykeZ wrote:
come again? The new Phenom II CPU's have hit 6GHz on overclocking. Granted the 6ghz was a less than traditional method of cooling but they were able to hit 4GHz on straight air cooling


Let's not go down the gigahertz road again. Very Happy But the fact remains that even an overclocked Phenom II lags in performance behind not only i7 but also some older quads. And hyperthreading puts the performance crown even more out of AMD's hands. But I am sure that the people at AMD already know that and are working on the problem.


how about comparing stuff thats in the same price range?
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swingman




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 18:27    Post subject:
Stefan F wrote:
how about comparing stuff thats in the same price range?


That wasn't my point at all because I know that AMD has almost always been a better value for money choice. But they just don't hold the outright performance title right now or you would see that in the prices and they wouldn't be the best VFM choice anymore. Ironic isn't it? Very Happy Like when their FX series were pwning Intel they were selling 1000$ procs just like Intel.
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Paintface




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 18:35    Post subject:
not entirely true, i agree on the FX part, but thats like intel extreme....

When AMD was the fastest, i bought my AMD 3500 for 270 bucks, being the second fastest desktop cpu behind the amd 3800 back then, with intel nowhere being near that performance.

What also makes corei7 less important being the fastest is the lack for those kind of speeds, sure if your job is encoding videos 24/7 you could use it.

As for us gamers ( office apps you can run fine on 5 year old hardware ) we havent been cpu limited for years, when i got my amd 3500 is was needed for BF2, maybe even just not enough. todays top games do not need that much more, you could play todays game perfectly fine on a amd 720 for 120bucks on stock speeds.

So if you go past AMD their offer on CPUs, its cause you have the money to spend, not cause you need that kind of performance.
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DarkSkies




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PostPosted: Sat, 9th May 2009 04:42    Post subject:
nice speeds

im current building a system with the phenom II x4 940 chip and watercooling, damn thing looks like frankenstein took over on the operation. I'm still deciding how much to overclock mine, this is my first overclock and water cooled system so im still researching things

Also I was thinking of using the Fusion Feature (its an overclock config file that you can turn on and off from a switch or powerbutton), have you tried that? it might be only on my motherboard.

Also I've read that comparing power consumption ratio that the phenom II is roughly good till about 3.6 ghz, once you hit about that the power jump goes up dramatically?? read it on tom's hardware page.

Does anyone know a good OVERCLOCKING (for dummies) webpage, yeah I'm a noob, sorry, I've read a few but still confused on the exact steps to perform .
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PostPosted: Sun, 10th May 2009 05:11    Post subject:
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