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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Nov 2006 11:39    Post subject:
1x10 Six Months Ago

This show just keep on getting better. This episode tells the background story of each character.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Nov 2006 17:06    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
1x10 Six Months Ago

This show just keep on getting better. This episode tells the background story of each character.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006 00:09    Post subject:
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Well Sylars original ability is to understand how things work, and instantly recognise anomalies. Maybe he just examines the persons brain in detail, discovers what makes them special and then alters his own brain in some non-invasive way so it has the same characteristic.

I doubt he eats the brain, I can't see how that would transfer the powers to him. At least as long as we're not in a total fantasy world.


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006 00:14    Post subject:
But like... grrr! I wanted it to be graphic! I wanna see how he gets the shit done!

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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006 00:44    Post subject:
I didn't like the last episode... was quite boring, usually I don't like these kind of episodes that show what happened before 1983 years ago.
Anyways I want to see some progress in the story, that's all I care about Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006 06:54    Post subject:
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I didn't like the last episode... was quite boring, usually I don't like these kind of episodes that show what happened before 1983 years ago.
Anyways I want to see some progress in the story, that's all I care about Smile

If giving PLENTY of backstory is not progress in story, then please tell us what is...
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006 13:54    Post subject:
It wasn't that plenty.
Was quite boring actually... I didn't enjoy it that much.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006 14:02    Post subject:
I think the backstory given on Sylar was extremely interesting. Maybe X-men would be more your style X_Dror? Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006 22:12    Post subject:
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WaldoJ wrote:
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Well Sylars original ability is to understand how things work, and instantly recognise anomalies. Maybe he just examines the persons brain in detail, discovers what makes them special and then alters his own brain in some non-invasive way so it has the same characteristic.

I doubt he eats the brain, I can't see how that would transfer the powers to him. At least as long as we're not in a total fantasy world.


Why would he open their brains then? I think it's quite logical that he eats the brain, and gains their power.

Or just collects them for personal collection? Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006 22:30    Post subject:
I don't think he eats or collects their brains, but in any case, you don't actually see him doing anything, so it's just guesswork. I go for the most plausible; I think AnimalMother's explaination is the most logical one. Sylar understand how things works just by looking at them. Exactly the way he looks at his clocks, and exactly the way you see him look into the eye of that guy and say "it's broken". He instantly understands how his brain works.


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006 23:08    Post subject:
best epi so far,explains a lot Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 01:33    Post subject:
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best epi so far,explains a lot Smile


I guess so, let us into how sylar came about, the story was just getting interesting then we had a whole episode of stuff that happend before... please dont get all flash backy like lost Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 03:21    Post subject:
It didn't explain a lot. Nothing major at all. Sylar is just sylar. Why?

He left a message to the old guy saying he made him who he is. But I have no idea who he is or how he gets his powers. he just did what he did and that's it. Neutral


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 03:53    Post subject:
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It didn't explain a lot. Nothing major at all. Sylar is just sylar. Why?

He left a message to the old guy saying he made him who he is. But I have no idea who he is or how he gets his powers. he just did what he did and that's it. Neutral


It confirmed something most of us had suspected for a while, that Sylar wasn't born with any of the abilities he currently has. He's 'stolen' them from other transhumans. We now know why he has been murdering people across america. I'd say thats major.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 04:01    Post subject:
No. Laughing

But still how does he steal them. What does he do with them. If I recall correctly they found his hideout while back with jars of brains so he obviously doesn't eat them. But he does something with them.

Maybe he does an operation on himself or something. adds the missing piece and connects it to the rest of his brain.

I wanted to know more. In the next eps we'll find out more for sure.

And it's not a massive plot point now. In the last ep, before the 6 months, the "do what I say" girl and the "mem-wipe" guy caught him and the mem-wipe guy was told to wipe his memory. make him forget everything or summin.

Sad maybe I am being obtuse but still there are some things that weren't cleared up. Sad


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 04:04    Post subject:
You want to know how he absorbs the powers of others? Ok, do you also want to know how that one guy defies gravity, or how that woman becomes super strong? They'll never explain the biological mechanisms behind their abilities, because it's utter fantasy. So don't be too disappointed if they never explain how Sylar absorbs the abilities of others. You have to explain this kind of stuff to yourself, or just accept it as is, otherwise you'll end up feeling dissatisfied by the whole thing. If they explain it in the programme, great. But how often do they explain everything in scif-fi and fantasy?

It's ok for there to be scientfic holes in fiction, it's plot holes that piss me off. Smile

I was doing an edit but you replied before I finished so I sort of split the post in two.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 04:14    Post subject:
I don't care why others fly or why others do what they do.

Sylar is different than them. He normal basically. I think. He just figured out how everyone uses their powers. How they become who they are. What clicks and what doesn't click. So he's pretty much important to figure out. Why they have their powers is no big concern. How he gets their powers is.

It's probably going to be explained sooner or later. they can't explain why they're different. But they sure as hell can come up with a way to explain how sylar can steal their powers.

But now his memory’s been wiped ( I think ). So he can lose all his powers as he hasn’t been born with them and they’re not really part of his genetics. He’s been born with one silly lil powar. And that’ll pretty much stay. Sad


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 04:26    Post subject:
Well I wouldn't say he's normal. Thats why that old indian guy came to him, he theorised he had some sort of genetic gift, just that it's wasn't obvious so he dismissed him.

Which in my opinion is a really shitty thing to do. He built this guy up by intimating he was gifted and really something special then just drops him when it isn't immediately apparent. What an asshole. No wonder he lost it. Razz

But he's certainly not normal. Just because he can't move stuff with his mind, doesn't mean he isn't insanely gifted.

If you want you could compare him to that naieve guy who can absrob the powers of those around him. He's normal until he takes the powers of others, do you want that explained?

I don't think he's been memory wiped though, or if he has he's going to retain all his abilities. Maybe they'll use him as some sort of weapon.

Personally I want to know more about that black uber psychic who follows glasses guy around. Seems he has the ability to supress other peoples abilites along with the memory thing.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 04:58    Post subject:
Hahahaha

Y'know what! Sylar could be like peter.

He prolly take bits of brains a long with him and absorbs their powers like peter. Laughing
That could work. Can't it??

I'm just being silly now. Laughing


Yeah the black guy seems to have something cool going for him.


I just hope they don't go the x-men way and have good battle the bad. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 10:35    Post subject:
even tho i really liked this episode i must agree that this episode didn't reveal anything significant. for example: it didn't really confirm sylars power (if it was about detecting mutants and knowing how stuff works the why couldn't he tell who claire was and didn't notice hiro?) and if he really took the powers of all the people he killed the why is he using only telekinesis?
basically everything that was "revealed" in "six months ago" we already new or deeply suspected.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 11:17    Post subject:
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even tho i really liked this episode i must agree that this episode didn't reveal anything significant. for example: it didn't really confirm sylars power (if it was about detecting mutants and knowing how stuff works the why couldn't he tell who claire was and didn't notice hiro?) and if he really took the powers of all the people he killed the why is he using only telekinesis?
basically everything that was "revealed" in "six months ago" we already new or deeply suspected.

Excuse me, there was a lot you didn't know about the characters.

You didn't know Linderman's people actually pushed Nathan and his wife into the barrels, and Nathan escaped by flying.

You didn't know how Niki got her powers, that she was an alcoholic, and about her father.

There was a lot of NEW and INTERESTING things in that episode, it wasn't just a filler-in. Besides, wouldn't it be stupid not knowing what Hiro did when he went back in time?

I think dismissing this episode as not significant and/or a flashback like Lost is idiotic. THIS ISN'T IT!

(btw, talking in general to all the complainters, wasn't necessary just pointed at you, liansk Wink)


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 12:12    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
liansk wrote:
even tho i really liked this episode i must agree that this episode didn't reveal anything significant. for example: it didn't really confirm sylars power (if it was about detecting mutants and knowing how stuff works the why couldn't he tell who claire was and didn't notice hiro?) and if he really took the powers of all the people he killed the why is he using only telekinesis?
basically everything that was "revealed" in "six months ago" we already new or deeply suspected.

Excuse me, there was a lot you didn't know about the characters.

You didn't know Linderman's people actually pushed Nathan and his wife into the barrels, and Nathan escaped by flying.

You didn't know how Niki got her powers, that she was an alcoholic, and about her father.

There was a lot of NEW and INTERESTING things in that episode, it wasn't just a filler-in. Besides, wouldn't it be stupid not knowing what Hiro did when he went back in time?

I think dismissing this episode as not significant and/or a flashback like Lost is idiotic. THIS ISN'T IT!

(btw, talking in general to all the complainters, wasn't necessary just pointed at you, liansk Wink)

Tbf, flashbacks are never as entertaining as the "real" story and these were certainly not an exception. i can agree that we got some necessary info, but id still have rather watched the story continue.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 13:55    Post subject:
Why do people think that story means only going forward? That is so completely rubbish.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 15:58    Post subject:
Well look at what happened in the other episode.

Peter got arrested. There is a girl dead where he was arrested. She has her head cut off.
Peter will now be suspected of being sylar.
They're going to bring the mind reader guy. And the fbi girl. They're going to talk. Peter is going to read their minds and try to assure them he isn't sylar.(or something)

But since he can read their minds they will be wary of him and ignore his pleads. (Laughing)

claire was going to tell her step dad she's different.

Sylar was captured by claire's father.
Something will develop there.

Mohinder is coming back.

The whole six month thing is nice and all. But they left us hanging at what possibly could be most important plot point!!
I don't regret it.
We did learn who some characters are.
We did learn how and why something’s happened to them.


It's just that I wanted to know more! More details. The most important bits were vague. The whole Nathan thing was nice but like… so what? Y’know.
Sylar’s fuckin’ interesting. We know so much about him yet we know nothing. Laughing

He can't detect others. He broke into Chandra's place and took all the info.

Laughing he and claire's father are going to work together to find all the freaks (possibly kill them or use them for something). And Mohinder will try and find them and help them understand who they are. just a guess.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 16:06    Post subject:
That backwards episode was necessary but I didn't enjoy it like I did with the episodes before this one.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 16:23    Post subject:
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Why do people think that story means only going forward? That is so completely rubbish.


there is a HUGE difference between story development and character development, last episode was pure character development. for example: eden's story was already told (in her conversation with claires dad and the comics) BUT they still added a flashback for her to add drama and details to her char. same thing with almost everybody else - every backstory in this episode could've been told in a line or two (or not told at all).NOW im not saying that this is bad or that i didn't like this episode but i still say that there was almost no story progress in it.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 16:40    Post subject:
ahem, hiro?

He went back in time to save the girl.
That's where the story progressed. A tiny bit.


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