Jesus. I've done so much worse in my youth and it was just a small fine.
He has previous offences.
you're right, it's different but still.. getting your life almost wrecked for something so insubstantial.
Yea Florida's point system don't fuck around. And they don't expire. Do shit at 18? at 70 those points still exist if you get arrested.
The "Serving alcohol without a license" bullshit one was one of the ones dropped, as they kept insisting we was trying to setup a rave..or something. we 100% wasn't. That would have fucked me.
Was me and 2 friends, doing stupid shit buzzed. We got seen, well heard, because people could hear my speaker setup inside their houses around the park, and called the cops.
Hindsight letting a buzzed electrician, (allegedly) take the tamper proof screws out of light poles to work with live 220v lines...was stupid too.
Edit: But he might not have taken them off. Those access panels COULD have been missing when we got there!
Stormwolf - "Who cares about some racial stuff, certainly not the victims."
- Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
- Watching people my age grow from cynical youth who distrusts and dismisses the older generation, into cynical old people who distrusts and dismisses younger generations.
I don't think I've said anything that would screw my buddy. And it's the hump, how many state attorneys from florida prowl here?
All mine are finalized but one: Tampering with public utility works [a felony]. And well case wise speaking none of us did that. But of the 3 of us, I 100% wasn't the one of us that 'didn't' do that. So still fighting that one.
First cop on scene was cool about it was just going to give us some misdemeanor tickets, a court date, and let us leave. But a sergeant showed up, looked up my record while I was in his car and he was a HUGE dick about the whole thing after that.
He was just the expected 'by the books' cop until he saw I had a record, then I was treated like he just caught the neighborhood rapist or some shit. And started doing: What all can find to charge you with. He TRIED to charge me with possession of burglary tools [given my record], since I had a toolbag in the back of my jeep with prybars, hammers, drill with bits and shit. But my friend took the blame and said they were his tools (they was, and eventually those charges dropped).
He added all the 'techncially you COULD have been doing this' charges he could round up, I think to make my bond sky high. He knew most of it wouldn't stick. But it makes my bond, and lawyer cost go sky high when 2 felonies are added to 3 misdemeanors.
The hosting an unpermitted musical venue in a public area, and intending to serve alcohol without a license was dropped fairly quick the first round of my lawyer meeting with the SA.
Clearly that was outrageous charges. BUT loud boomy speakers, 2 fully automated club lights (the type that move and change color and all that) wired up and on the roof of my jeep gave him enough to have 'reasonable enough suspicion' to write down the charge for them.
I admitted to having 2 bottles of whiskey, Thank GOD they wasn't opened. Open container in vehicle would have been another charge. And probably a DUI. At least if florida if you ping on the breathalyzer and you got an empty beer can in your car..can be from months ago, they can be dicks and claim it COULD have been that you drank so you have a DUI and a open container charge.
Also admitted the speakers was mine (they are hardwired in my own car...), that the wire used to power the lights is indeed the wire off that spool of matching wire in my car. I have a 4/0 gauge speaker wire spool in my car from months ago. (well had, they took my wire spool into evidence, along with Rob's lights).
The other small shit I got caught to rights on was: Being in a closed park after hours, trespassing (double whammy for the closed park), driving a vehicle on park walkways (we drove into the park like 100 feet). And disturbing the peace.
So word of advice: If you end up hanging out getting a good buzz, and you 3 are nerdy guys that one likes loud music, the other is a stage tech with spare lights, and one is an electrician...don't do stupid shit.
It started with us just chilling playing music in my car then a "I got two spare motorized stage spotlights in my truck and the controllers. How awesome would it be to sync them to your bass?"...and bad ideas slowly followed.
Stormwolf - "Who cares about some racial stuff, certainly not the victims."
- Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
- Watching people my age grow from cynical youth who distrusts and dismisses the older generation, into cynical old people who distrusts and dismisses younger generations.
Oh snap, sorry to hear all this DX. Wishing you the shortest and most uneventful time in there, hopefully without encountering too many pesky nutcases.
I got 4 of the 5 charges dropped (the outlandishly absurd ones). Plead to one misdemeanor, but with my past record points total, 7 months is as low as SA would agree to.
Dunno WHEN I go, lawyer will tell me. Within the next 2-3 weeks I suspect. Which sucks, my B-day is end of month. So spend that and my sons bday, daughters bday, thanksgiving, christmas, new years, and valentines day locked up.
Edit. Also sucking: I had to take 50k out of my 401k to help wife pay for bills while I am gone. She can't afford the bills on her own. So overall this will cost me around 80k. 15k bond, 15k lawyer, 50k for 7 months of missed pay.
BUT bright side is will be quieter here for you guys. And I can quit smoking too I suppose as a positive. As no smoking anymore in there. Only vapes, and not paying $25 for a shitty DOJ vape that lasts 2 days.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Haha, you can get a phone in there. But its risky, expensive as hell, better have a good hiding spot and if found lost all your gain time and some time in the hole to reflect on what you did
And yea, SOME gaintime I will get. But Florida has the 85/15 rule: You can only gain up to 15% of your time as early release.
Well technically you could earn over that, but can only use 15% (you must serve 85%).
At first that seems to make no sense: Why can you earn it, if you can't use it?
Reason is say you earn 25% off (working, helping in vocational classes, volunteering for job crews that earn more by being REALLY shit job, etc). If you get dinged for a DA (disciplinary action) it comes off your 'over' earned time. So could have 25%, lose X days and go down to 18%, but still leave with the full 15% max off.
Which some guys exploit, wanna kick a guys ass? Earn over time enough to 'afford' it.
And you can get dinged for the dumbest things: Wake up late for work, have too many books at once (can only own two at a time), they call you to come out of the pod for some reason and you are sleeping? And no other inmates cares to wake you up, and they have to come wake you up.
Fighting...if you started it or not. Defending yourself is 'still' fighting, I have seen as DA reports for it and they lost gain time.
uh what else have I seen...Not shaving after being told to [you can only have a mustache. no beards or goatee etc], having two pillows [took one out of an empty bed]. Keeping too many mailed letters [can only have 5]. wearing work boots in the pod day room. Having two books, BUT they check and they are not yours [Inmates skirt the 2 book rule by letting others 'hold' the books and spread them out among people with no books. You AND they guys that owns the books gets dinged].
All kinda pedantic shit.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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its official. I go on the 15th. Plea signed and court date set.
I got to court on the 15th and be back home in march or april (ish).
My friend got probation and community service. So he's OK. The other all charges was dropped.
$80k later, a job of 18 years over (talked to boss, he can't go to bat for me hard enough to help me), and leaving my family at literally the worst time it could be in the last 10 years: Son lost his job, back home, about to be divorced because of all that and is a wreck mentally. Daughters looped into the wrong crowd and needs support and guidance to be nudged in right directions. Shes making it back out of that hole, but...
But is what it is. "This too shall pass" as they say. What's left to pick up once it passes who knows. When I return: Being 50, just out of lock up, and a record before that. Job prospects are not going to be throwing themselves at me.
Life's been hard, some of it I truly earned. Young dumb, and bad friends long ago. And lots of young dumb stuff after married with a wife that went from daycare worker to stripper, and the lifestyle that comes with that...All 15+ years ago, but I still self earned it nonetheless back then.
But some of it does seems like life finding open angles to kick me in the nuts on its own. Sure I played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. But fuck man, this big a prize? That also fucks over my family over it
It's just 6 months, I have done more before I keep telling myself. But..I didn't want to do anymore, no matter how short.
So I am going to spend the next two weeks in "Fuck it" mode. Do what I enjoy doing, push off little things like mowing grass, and taking out trash, and cleaning the pool and shit to my kids. And just enjoy my 2 weeks.
And yes, some of that enjoyment might be tussling with people here. I'll miss our spats, even when I know most will be relieved it (or me) is gone for awhile. You guys are like family I never met. And not everyone in a family gets along. But they are still family to you
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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And yes, some of that enjoyment might be tussling with people here. I'll miss our spats, even when I know most will be relieved it (or me) is gone for awhile. You guys are like family I never met. And not everyone in a family gets along. But they are still family to you
SumZero caused a lot of conflicts on ze Humps. Why do you even care about that guy ? Mods, please ban SumZero permanently btw !
Made in China is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.
Yea that guy is a total ass. A dumb idea having asshat
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What if you (pretend) to find jebus in there all of a sudden, will it be any help in regards to your wellness score or day-to-day quality of life while inside?
Depends. Lots of people stumble into finding God while in there. Be it honest reasons, or just a thing to cling to when you can't reach anything else.
But it doesn't really help or hurt anyone either way. No one really cares if you found X/Y/Z God. Well other than the actually religious people trying in their own way to help you.
Or if you join some group/gang/whatever and if you believe [or say you do] in whatever they do.
Like if you join Aryan Brotherhood you best pretend you respect the virgin mary, and Jesus our 'white' lord and savior (who is somehow: A caucasian, biblical times middle eastern...jew, a thing they are not fond of...its complicated ). You don't have to proselytize, but you best show up for your blocks weekly church (fancy way of saying club meeting really).
So really unless you are one to join in on the "Like, likes..like" [Alike people like each other] train where tribalistic homogeneity is what 'defines' who you are, and who you are with.
But you are really just trading safety in anonymous ambiguity, for safety in numbers.
I prefer to just keep to myself, my head down, pay debts/favors on time and don't disrespect anyone. Just do my time.
You either stay out of the way, or march with your 'kind'. And I'm 50 not 20 something anymore. I don't have the energy, body, or any reasons to need to get froggy anymore.
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Like if you join Aryan Brotherhood you best pretend you respect the virgin mary, and Jesus our 'white' lord and savior (who is somehow: A caucasian, biblical times middle eastern...jew, a thing they are not fond of...its complicated ).
In their eyes the holy ghostly dove's magic sperm supersedes any jewishness in Mary's half of the DNA of their Lawd.
I meant, if you'd claim to be born again Christian, wouldn't you have more spare personal time 'praying' at the church than while away in more vulnerable spots like your cell or court or any other genpop spaces in prison.
Or perhaps, you can even request more personal time and space for your supposed praying or whatever religious activity that local church 'demands' from you.
Devout moslems need to pray 5 times a day, lets not discard that opportunity to take a break 5 times a day.
[Sorry this got way longer than I intended. Just wanted to cover all the bases of how rightless you are in lock up here]
Oh. I see.
It don't work like that at all here. Muslim and you want to pray? your cell has a floor and you got a towel to kneel on.
And there is chaplain service schedule you can go to once a week. But it's sort of 'Jack of all trades' type of room somewhere.
No state funds are spent on religious programming or materials. It's all volunteer faith leaders that schedule days they come in for an hour or two at set times a week.
Remember, its the US, and you are in state custody. You are barely considered as person, or just barely considered at all
Most ALL your rights are stripped, including religious ones beyond the right to believe whatever you want. The right to practice it if it conflicts with the prison regime or controlled order, you lost.
Spoiler:
RFRA and RLUIPA: Restrictions on Religious Activity You have an absolute right to believe anything you want. You do not, however, always have a constitutional right to do things (or not do things) just because of your religious beliefs. Under current law, the right of free exercise does not excuse anyone, including prisoners, from complying with a “neutral” rule (one not intended to restrict religion) of “general applicability” (one that applies to everyone in the same way) simply because it requires them to act in a manner inconsistent with their religious beliefs.
Hasidic Jew and sabbath is a day of no work, but your inmate work schedule has you? Enjoy an uphill battle to prove you're sincere about your beliefs. If denied, you'd need to file a grievance and potentially pursue legal action. (And prisoner legal actions move slooooow. You are bottom of the pole importance in courts)
Some places saturday is mandatory cell-cleaning day. And you either do it, or struggle to prove you shouldn't. And you will have to until that glacial slow legal processes grants you rights to stop.
Because first they dont give a fuck, second others have exploited lying about 'being X religion' to get days off.
The only one they give any validity to accommodating in any useful way is religious diet restrictions. Only because they legally have to. Because you don't control your food, they do.
And usually that isn't a special meal. Its they take whatever you can't have off that meal for you and you get the rest. Or replace it with a 'standard' item you can. Can't eat pork? Any meals with pork gets replaced with the same alternative meat every time. So people that do eat pork at least get random crap variations of pork you get what they get, but everytime with fishsticks replacing the types of pork, or such.
God help you if your vegetarian. You get a salad [lettuce with a few random carrot shavings] nearly every meal, that looks like it was made by floor sweepings from under a fast food salad bar, and enough dressing to maybe moisten one of the limp brownish lettuce shreds.
Remember the Fire Festival food pictures? That is PRETTY close to what you'd get. [Bread and oreos is a big thing on those meals. It pads out the caloric requirements they gotta give you. And trust me, it's the CHEAPEST bread they can get]
A typical dinner of "I think it's chili mac? its brown clumpy and has elbow noodles in it?" Vegan version left, normal one on the right:
Spoiler:
Breakfast for you is one of those kids school cereal boxes of plain ass cornflakes and skim milk carton.
Spoiler:
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Last edited by DXWarlock on Fri, 3rd Oct 2025 21:12; edited 3 times in total
Didn't want to add MORE to that post, as its only quasi related to the question.
I should be fine. Last time I found my gig of helping other inmates with paperwork, translating legalese from their lawyers paperwork they get. Or getting the right forms and such for things they want to file, submit, or appeal and making sure they do it right. Prison LOVES nothing more than to dismiss/invalidate a request because something on it was slightly done wrong.
As well as helping them find the right books they need for their case earns me some safety padding.
Now none of the people I help would actively strap boots for me [put on work boots with intent to start a fight because no one wants to fight in flip flops..your only other shoes]. You see dudes wearing work boots on the row/block? Someone is waiting for something to pop off.
But they also don't like it much if the guy helping them in the law library and/or doing their paperwork gets beatdown and cannot get out of his bunk, or eye swollen shut. And usually the ones with charges bad enough to be willing to go through the slow complicated process of filing appeals, and trying to understand law library books, are the ones you want on your side, not against it
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Yea, it don't work like that That's the opposite of how war daddy works.
Why have to try to hold a dude down to get some then make him a reluctant block bitch that now has deep seated reasons to pay someone to boot up on ya. When there is 2-3 Block Brides in the block that will do it, and be better at it.
Or, if he realizes his only form of buffer is he's going to have to take dick, he rather give it to a war daddy that will protect him and buy shit for him. Than doll up and be abused by you.
Rapes totally happen, but not just because they want to. It's because you owe/did something that they feel only rape is degrading enough to teach you a lesson.
Prison TV shows and movies always play to the audience. Gay dudes having willing sex with dudes that turned 'Prison Gay', is boring (and offense to some people). But play on their fears of what they would hate to have happen to them if there, now that is immersive media. Why I don't watch them. They are ridiculous. It's like watching a daytime soap opera and assuming everyone's life is like that. They show the 1% of what happens like it happens daily.
Edit: And NO WAY in hell, a dude that just raped another dude is walking around in the mess hall, and with his friends that helped. His ass would be in the hole for a month. (Why its as payment/punishment to get raped. They will take the solitary time to get their point across)
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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