Forspoken (ex Project Athia, SQUARE ENIX)
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EyePatchLives




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Aug 2023 14:45    Post subject:
I actually finished it. Laughing

It's written like a YA book for teen girls looking for a power fantasy.


"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.

Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Aug 2023 01:23    Post subject:
I'm so glad I never bought this game.

I'm trying to enjoy but it's so bad...Not even worth pirating...


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Amadeus




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2023 11:55    Post subject:
Y'all can test Frame Generation in the Demo now

Whoop whoop..
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2023 14:18    Post subject:
Hopefully Patch will be out soon cs rin...

Whatever was implement in the game before was so dog shit.


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Divvy




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2023 14:33    Post subject:
I tried it. Honestly, just using DLSS Performance is a better experience than FSR + FG. Latter has so much input lag, blur and artifacting. If NVidia's FG is comparable to this, I'm suddenly not at all unhappy about not getting the option for my 3080.


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jermore




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2023 11:22    Post subject:
Divvy wrote:
I tried it. Honestly, just using DLSS Performance is a better experience than FSR + FG. Latter has so much input lag, blur and artifacting. If NVidia's FG is comparable to this, I'm suddenly not at all unhappy about not getting the option for my 3080.

eh what

from 50 to 100 fps here, no artifacts, perceivable blur (native AA used) or more latency than expected
it's a good deal if you're using controller, but less so for m/k due to frame pacing and the extra 20-30ms latency (not bad at all here, but could be a dealbreaker in an FPS game)

forspoken still has frame pacing issues in specific areas, it might be better to aim for a specific fps cap but i was happy with uncapped/vsync
shit is literal magic given it requires 0 additional hardware, amd just shitting out the free fake frames here

i had to toggle vsync on my control panel before it was smooth and many mention there are issues with variable rate refresh, hopefully amd can sort it out at some point
i think those poor nvidia ai chips gonna need a new role Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2023 18:10    Post subject:
Demo crashes on starting up on my system. Reinstalled GPU drivers, update Windows, reinstalled the game, verified game files, removed RAM OC etc. etc. it just doesn't start. Everything else works normally though.

Anyone having similar issues?


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jermore




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 05:29    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
Demo crashes on starting up on my system. Reinstalled GPU drivers, update Windows, reinstalled the game, verified game files, removed RAM OC etc. etc. it just doesn't start. Everything else works normally though.

Anyone having similar issues?

your hardware specs?

forspoken engine is custom shit so i wouldn't be tearing up your machine to boot it when it's probably just not working with your setup Laughing

not sure if the demo is less stable than retail, i'm using retail never had a crash in 50h
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jermore




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 08:29    Post subject:


now amd is just stretching dlss 3 thin Laughing
how many fake frames can you really dredge out of 25

edit:
fsr3 gen + AFMF
STRETCH
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 08:38    Post subject:
amd cant even do fsr 2 right and u think fsr3 will be better? Laughing Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 09:32    Post subject:
jermore wrote:
couleur wrote:
Demo crashes on starting up on my system. Reinstalled GPU drivers, update Windows, reinstalled the game, verified game files, removed RAM OC etc. etc. it just doesn't start. Everything else works normally though.

Anyone having similar issues?

your hardware specs?

forspoken engine is custom shit so i wouldn't be tearing up your machine to boot it when it's probably just not working with your setup Laughing

not sure if the demo is less stable than retail, i'm using retail never had a crash in 50h


Thanks, in the end, it was my Thrustmaster USB flightstick, that made it crash
when launching through steam. Weirdly it worked through the epic store.


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jermore




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 09:44    Post subject:
couleur wrote:

Thanks, in the end, it was my Thrustmaster USB flightstick, that made it crash
when launching through steam. Weirdly it worked through the epic store.

yeah probably some interaction with steam's input system. wouldn't have guessed it though Laughing usb problems are the most random honestly
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 10:05    Post subject:
Judging purely from my own experience in the Forspoken Demo, FSR3 FG is ok. But it won't make a 25FPS Game magically make 100FPS without loss of quality and magically enhance input lag on top. It's good enough if you have 60 base FPS and want to go 100-120 FPS on a higher refresh monitor. But it's not magic indeed. Personally, I will probably use it when I can.


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 10:49    Post subject:
I will always keep saying that if you want "frame generation" on any card, hook your PC to any TV and turn on motion smoothing.
It is literally the exact same thing except it's not overhyped like some AI magic bullshit.. you'll see the exact same artifacts and input lag. In most cases even this bullshit is far worse than how the TV handles it.
I have seen zero evidence it being anything more than that.
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 11:37    Post subject:
You should try it then. Your TV doesn’t have access to motion vectors on which FG is based to calculate interpolated images. It makes all the difference.


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 11:49    Post subject:
I'm talking about the results not the method. Most implementations I've seen fail to differentiate between UI and 3D resulting in the same smudgy artifacts and jitterness.
It's too undercooked. It's so advanced it fails to beat basic TV interpolation Cool Face
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jermore




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 12:04    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
I'm talking about the results not the method. Most implementations I've seen fail to differentiate between UI and 3D resulting in the same smudgy artifacts and jitterness.
It's too undercooked. It's so advanced it fails to beat basic TV interpolation Cool Face

fsr3 doesn't have this problem so there's that

not sure about hypr-rx, which is much closer to tv interpolation in reality.. not seen any footage of ui problems even with that myself
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 15:59    Post subject:
FSR3 doesn't work well at all in Forspoken, ups the framerate but the smoothness isn't really there

Works well in Immortals of Aveum though, ofc you'll be stuck with FSR2 which is an oversharpened mess

Also make sure you got at least that 60fps

I tried it with 45fps base framerate and it sucked

Apart from the insignificant UI issues, DLSS3 is still well ahead

But a good showing nonetheless given Nvidia's headstart and given that this doesn't need special hardware
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 16:14    Post subject:
I have a different experience in Forspoken Demo. Adding FG on top of FSR3 Quality and enabling V-Sync in the driver gives me exactly 100FPS to match the 100Hz of my monitor and its buttery smooth. The only issue is the jaggies that are added through FSR.

edit: 45FPS base framerate is too low. But we knew that already. AMD recommends 60FPS base framerate.


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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