Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 [October 21st]
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MishkiN




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Dec 2020 15:12    Post subject:
A cautionary tale of selling out for acceptance of the woke minority. It's like a slow motion car crash.
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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Dec 2020 15:30    Post subject:
Ke1N wrote:
Yeah, I can't see this coming out in 2021 Laughing


It seems that I was right Crying or Very sad
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Frant
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Dec 2020 15:33    Post subject:
This should be scrapped, IP sold to a better renowned studio and given a proper budget with good script writers and developers. Releasing an utter disappointing Bloodlines 2 would kill off that particular IP forever, at least in that form. I guess they could do a VtM: Bloodlines - Hybrids mobile game or something (eeew).


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DCB




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Dec 2020 15:36    Post subject:
I assume that buying a chunk of Hardsuit means Paradox is committed to seeing BL2 through. But they currently only own a third of it, which is not a controlling interest. They do have the option to increase their stake though, so you have to wonder if they are at some point going to bite the bullet and increase their stake to 51%, then put a broom through the current management. You can keep firing the minions but at some point you have to acknowledge the elephant in the room.
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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 09:03    Post subject:
Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines 2 Delayed Past 2021, Developers Removed From Project, Preorders Halted


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In a statement made as part of Paradox’s latest earnings, the publisher says:

We have now chosen to postpone the release of [Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines 2] further, and we will not be launching the game in 2021. We have also decided that Hardsuit Labs will no longer be leading the development of Bloodlines 2, and we have started a collaboration with a new studio partner to finish work on the game. This has been a difficult decision, but we are convinced that it is the right way forward to do the game justice.


https://kotaku.com/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-delayed-past-2021-1846333086
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Sauronich




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 09:21    Post subject:
Probably for the best at this point Laughing

The Noclip documentary about the development is gonna end up more interesting than the actual game, if it ever comes out.


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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 09:28    Post subject:
Official message from Paradox:

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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 09:33    Post subject:
why did they went with those clowns to begin with Rolling Eyes
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Steelone




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 09:38    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
why did they went with those clowns to begin with Rolling Eyes


Your new avatar fits the situation with this pretty well.

Also yeah, why did they hire Hardsuit in the first place. They had zero experience with this sort of game.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 09:45    Post subject:
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 09:48    Post subject:
I don't know much, but i hope Hardsuit labs were the ones causing trouble in the game. Getting people fired, woking it up etc
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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 09:53    Post subject:
Virtue signaling pieces of shit too. looked at their twatter. White people claiming to be "POC" (it's PoC, idiots.)

"Cuban Dad+ American Mom lends itself to lighter complexion but my experiences as a POC are still very real. Currently a producer @HardsuitLabs working on #Bloodlines2 !"
white as a paper sheet = Person of Color. And you obviously are having a hard time with your "experiences", "racicisicism everywhere!!!!" Laughing


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 10:01    Post subject:
Why are people hiring these trash? They can stick to indie and/or piss off from existence.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 10:02    Post subject:
tHEY aRe PoC!! they should be immune to cancellation!!! Laughing
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 10:20    Post subject:
I think this is for the best. A bit late though, Paradox should have done this when Mitsoda was fired.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 10:33    Post subject:


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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tet666




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 10:39    Post subject:
Steelone wrote:
vurt wrote:
why did they went with those clowns to begin with Rolling Eyes


Your new avatar fits the situation with this pretty well.

Also yeah, why did they hire Hardsuit in the first place. They had zero experience with this sort of game.


They had Mitsoda on board back then and he pitched it to them they probably thought he could handle a rookie team. They even invested in them i think they own about 50% now which makes this even more of a failure for them.
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 10:53    Post subject:
Even tough i got it for a steal, i'm glad i got it refunded all nice and smoothly Very Happy


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Steelone




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 10:54    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Steelone wrote:
vurt wrote:
why did they went with those clowns to begin with Rolling Eyes


Your new avatar fits the situation with this pretty well.

Also yeah, why did they hire Hardsuit in the first place. They had zero experience with this sort of game.


They had Mitsoda on board back then and he pitched it to them they probably thought he could handle a rookie team. They even invested in them i think they own about 50% now which makes this even more of a failure for them.


If this is being rebooted, they'd better bring Mitsoda back after the fuckery and backstabbing with Hardsuit.

Or at least, use the narrative he'd already written.
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 10:55    Post subject:
Let me guess. THis rookie team of purple and green haired wo(man)'s had a vision for the game, Mitsoda wouldn't play ball and they got him fired
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Steelone




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 11:24    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Let me guess. THis rookie team of purple and green haired wo(man)'s had a vision for the game, Mitsoda wouldn't play ball and they got him fired


One of the rumours floating around was he defended Chris Avellone's work and tried to prevent it being removed.

No evidence for that though. Guess we'll get more info when/if NDAs expire and Mitsoda is willing to talk more.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 11:41    Post subject:
Vampire: The Masquerade - Forever
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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 11:43    Post subject:
Arukardo wrote:
Vampire: The Masquerade - Forever


Pretty much. Laughing This IP is legit cursed.
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 12:04    Post subject:
see you in 2025 lol
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 12:07    Post subject:
It's not like it was shaping into something great, looked generic as fuck.
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 13:10    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
why did they went with those clowns to begin with Rolling Eyes


Because in charge of many companies nowadays there are often managers / PR representatives / negotiators very well trained in the art of 'persuasion', that get their way and turn profit not on the quality of their services, but their massive skill in bullshitting.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 14:07    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
vurt wrote:
why did they went with those clowns to begin with Rolling Eyes


Because in charge of many companies nowadays there are often managers / PR representatives / negotiators very well trained in the art of 'persuasion', that get their way and turn profit not on the quality of their services, but their massive skill in bullshitting.


Yes. I get the feeling Paradox sometimes are somewhat naive, a rather typical swedish trait i would argue Wink /in before patriot Frant comes in to defend us against my lies!
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Steelone




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 14:30    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
vurt wrote:
why did they went with those clowns to begin with Rolling Eyes


Because in charge of many companies nowadays there are often managers / PR representatives / negotiators very well trained in the art of 'persuasion', that get their way and turn profit not on the quality of their services, but their massive skill in bullshitting.


Yes. I get the feeling Paradox sometimes are somewhat naive, a rather typical swedish trait i would argue Wink /in before patriot Frant comes in to defend us against my lies!


I'm not sure whether Paradox ended up buying a stake in Hardsuit before or after their BL2 pitch, but either way, I suspect they were the cheapest option.

I bet Paradox is regretting any short term cost saving right about now though.
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 14:31    Post subject:
they will make the money back with the 369 ck3 dlcs Laughing
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Adebisi




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 19:02    Post subject:
Shame i kinda liked what they showed... Maybe for the better lets hope.
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