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StEFaN7
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theres something about the game that feels cheap, cutscenes and graphics look great but everything else kinda undone, not much depth.
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Oct 2020 23:16 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Oct 2020 23:16 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | | FireMaster wrote: | | I'm getting PTSD flashbacks from the race mission. It hasn't improved at all.... |
It's super easy on regular driving mode + normal mode. I lowered those just for the race and won instantly. |
That's what I had to do for that specific mission only. It's just unfair you have the slowest car in the batch and start at the last line. On classic I finished 2nd far too many times I gave up lol.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 01:24 Post subject: |
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I grabbed one of those handy repacks from the Bronx out of curiosity, played the first seven missions, and came to the conclusion that I expected with sad trombone sounds and all. This is an offer I can easily refuse 
Leaving aside the new cast/voices, dialogue lines and different tone overall which are all distinctly less inspired than the original whilst adding absolutely nothing of value, all the core gameplay elements are essentially borrowed from Mafia 3 and that will never not be a source of discomfort for me. From the same approximative cover peashooting to the silly QTE-based melee combat, from the awkward AI routines to the driving that retains the floaty boat-like aftertaste even on "simulation", from the various structural simplifications to the music and atmosphere incapable of recreating the charm and believable realism that the original game had, has and will always have.
Somehow, every single aspect that isn't the graphics is worse in the remake. It's not a complete disaster since at least there was an attempt to repropose the classic formula without insane grind and without adding nonsensical modern features from Purpletown, but as far as I'm concerned the Hangarsoft frauds definitely weren't up to the task back in 2016, and they still aren't now. 5 va fongool and a half/10
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garus
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 12:19 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 12:35 Post subject: |
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Since they cut so much out of the game, driving back, lucas bertone missions and the gameplay is so easy, magnetise to cover and pop-a-mole, the whole game is done in about 6 or 7 hours. The original was at least double that. here you're just following order, everything you have to do in any mission you just follow the instructions, go there, do that. In the original you had to actually play and figure out, fights were difficult. Omerta and You Lucky Bastard are so easy and barren in the remake compared to how they were
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bronson
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2020 20:47 Post subject: |
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Finished it... Nice car models and parts of the city.
I liked the quality of life improvements and ability to skip driving sometimes and police not being as annoying. Generally the pacing was better.
But characters, voices are all worse. Atmosphere is worse, shooting is terrible and worst of all - the music is very bad
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2020 21:07 Post subject: |
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Why didn't they use the old voices?
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2020 21:09 Post subject: |
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Would be quite weird with the old low quality audio with the modern graphics. You'd have lots of complaints about the quality and why they didnt record new ones when the rest is remade. We should all know how this usually plays out
But honestly, i can't for the life of me remember a remake that is actually better than the original. Only thing that might be better is the ability to run the game better on a modern machine, but the rest?... a big ass nope.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2020 21:25 Post subject: |
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It's not only voices but music and not much tension building.
In original, the faces barely move at all and they express 10x more emotion.
Anyway - Fine remake if someone never played original. I understand playing early 2000 game now needs a high jank tolerance so at least there is remake for those
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Oct 2020 15:22 Post subject: |
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finished and was ok, they could have done more, expanded story and not do so many time jumps. wasted open world map, wasted opportunity. but yeah, its a remake but plays like a remaster.
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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prudislav
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Oct 2020 15:23 Post subject: |
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remaster with derpified characters
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garus
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Oct 2020 15:29 Post subject: |
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Oct 2020 15:35 Post subject: |
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to me too, looked at some footage and at least in the character department they did good.
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Oct 2020 20:53 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | | Mister_s wrote: | | Why didn't they use the old voices? |
The old voices sound very amateurish to me, now. |
and yet convey 10x more emotions than new "gangster tough" tommy and whiny paulie
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garus
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bronson
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Oct 2020 23:35 Post subject: |
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Even Sarah looks like every wife in godfather 2 lol
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Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2020 01:06 Post subject: |
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Exactly  , the remake has the same unconvincing and forced tone as those videos, only adapted to a serious context in a way that's supposed to make the characters sound "cool", just like we wrote some days ago.
It wasn't designed to portray people in an authentic and believable way, with all their human insecurities and flaws. It was specifically engineered to keep the average Joe who's never played the original game invested by matching his preconceptions. No wonder Vàvra dislikes it as well, the new style feels like the byproduct of the jaded Hollywood industry which is the complete opposite of his approach - the same one that made Kingdom Come feel so genuine and so different from the rest of the tripeA stuff.
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Here's something outRAGEous that I'm going to say:
"I'd say it makes MUCH MORE SENSE for Tommy to already have an innate bandit mafioso pedigree. Otherwise, any other regular honest-to-god Joe would have avoided business with the mob at all cost.
So that's why he sounds like some sort of gangster from the start. Who knows, maybe he had it in him already, since he is SO GOOD at being a mobster.
Hm? How does that sound?!
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2020 13:15 Post subject: |
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shhhhhh dont say more or the nostalgia mob will hunt you down
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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