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Sin317
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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2020 20:01    Post subject:
It runs smooth. 100 fps in campaign map and 60+ in battles. Tho like I said, it's very zoomed out, so there is very little visible animation going on ^^. You can hardly make out the units, if they aren't highlighted ^^.
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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2020 22:42    Post subject:
THIS GAME IS FREE RIGHT NOW ON THE EPIC STORE btw.
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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2020 22:44    Post subject:
THANKS MEN!
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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Aug 2020 22:54    Post subject:
Wow bargain thanks hope it is good.


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 00:12    Post subject:
Interesting.. style. Why is the combat so lame? Confused

Menus are confusing and some of them ugly.

Not sure what they wanted with all of these changes.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 00:29    Post subject:
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/i91i08/sieging_became_a_bit_too_difficult/

they did some great playtesting i see lol, djeeses, they had ladders in the game for over a decade and now they fuck it up ?

anyhow its just another empire tw reskin, nr 7 ? lol


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 00:32    Post subject:
Units -
are way to ugly
and something is wrong with the animation
units are waaay to fast it's like they're all cavalry
too agile as well
sometimes they skate like on ice lol
wtf?!

It's like amateurs made this, worst total war yet, even three king. had better combat.

If you can skip the combat then it's playable but not for long.
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 01:30    Post subject:
It starts to make sense why it free. :>


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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 01:34    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 02:54    Post subject:
I played a few quick battles, and indeed the unit graphics are very lame. There are like two three face textures that repeat, so you see all the cousins in the same unit. Laughing Animations don't fit the moving speed, so it seems like they are running really fast but actually moving slow.

It shows that this is some shitty studio's job, especially after China.
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 06:35    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
It starts to make sense why it free. :>

After Thrones of Britannia bombed, they must have thought all their Christmases had come at once when Epic turned up offering a sack of cash for exclusivity and a free giveaway. It's really a win-win scenario for Sega. They get a bunch of money without having to worry about the fanbase rejecting them (again) and they get 12 months of free beta testing before they try to sell it to the majority of their audience on Steam.

LeoNatan wrote:
It shows that this is some shitty studio's job, especially after China.

It was. It was one of their satellite studios, as mentioned earlier in the thread, not the main UK studio (which is busy working on Warhammer III and some console action game).
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 07:29    Post subject:
wow , they will try to sell this at 50€ after the freebie deal expires


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 10:51    Post subject:
Things don't make sense here, how can a farming city have the same garrison (almost the same) as a citadel tier 4? Did these guys ever play Rome2 or Warhammer? Rome will have a bigger garrison protecting it than a village in Nabo.

You have resources but can generate more just by completing a research Neutral kinda cancels each other, what's the point. I have enough food for an entire continent.

I assume every unit is like cavalry now because of this 'flanking new feature' Laughing so now the whole game becomes a flanking competition, who will outflank who faster (or a butt-fucking competition). Try and out-flank the flankers then out-out-flank the out-flankers and so on.

Yeah you can tell a different studio made this Laughing proly their first game. Maybe they should have borrowed Rome 2 code and just modify it, this game would have been great then.

What a waste.
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 12:10    Post subject:
Units have absolutely no momentum, they can run like crazy one way then immediately turn and run with full speed the other way units just don't feel real anymore, they're like giant porcelain dolls running with Usain Bolt speed.

The combat is so bad, you can't fix this.
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 14:34    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Units have absolutely no momentum, they can run like crazy one way then immediately turn and run with full speed the other way units just don't feel real anymore, they're like giant porcelain dolls running with Usain Bolt speed.

The combat is so bad, you can't fix this.


Units having no real mass to them has been an issue ever since the new engine switch with Empire.

I really miss the battles in Rome and Medieval 2 where units actually had some momentum to them.
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 14:34    Post subject:
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 14:50    Post subject:
if u look at what we were playing almost 15 years ago now thanks to modders ... ud think these devs have become senile and went total overboard with their retarded motion cap studio bullshit which adds NOTHING to the game, the only thing they evolved was their marketing and dlc milking

Just makes u sick to think about what we could have gotten and what fucking shit they been giving us for all these years



whens the last time u saw a real battle line like this and it holding for a few mins to just watch and enjoy the carnage unfold sitting back as an amrchair general and not having to be a starcraft 2 pro clicking every single unit like a mad men ...

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Sin317
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Aug 2020 15:06    Post subject:
It worked fine in TWW... Sure, they over did it with the charge impact, but it's Warhammer and it has huge monsters etc. so it's ok. But in Troy, it's like they tuned it back to -100...
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Aug 2020 13:17    Post subject:
Probably 4 million bots ^^
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Aug 2020 13:31    Post subject:
They shouldn't count me, already uninstalled Laughing

Those are some impressive servers though, if majority downloaded 25gigs.
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prudislav
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Aug 2020 13:47    Post subject:
didnt WWZ had 8mil claims? ... so 0,5mil less bots? Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Aug 2020 14:19    Post subject:
I always try to like tw games but just, can't.
The whole UI is so clumsy for no reason. The map is a mess.
Empire management is nothing more then picking perks and there are so much perks i just lose interest. And why would you care about the numbers, exploiting ai is enough to win.
Battles take forever and are hardly a chalange. But don't you dare to auto resolve when you're 2-1 in numbers cause the ai will kill half of your army.
Diplomatic AI: we want goods from you for free. Response, no thanks, i want your goods for free. AI: fine, take it.


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Aug 2020 14:24    Post subject:
Yes, the ui is the worst. And Three king. had a great ui and the best diplomacy system.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Aug 2020 14:55    Post subject:
The diplomatic system is pretty much the same as in 3K...
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Aug 2020 15:04    Post subject:
Ok, a more in depth review:

I like the more diverse resources, but it's implemented horribly. Each Province has 1 to 3 minor settlements, which are randomly given a "type". I.e. farming, mining, etc., so it's "whack-a-mole" style capturing of those settlements. Need food, capture farming village, etc.

Achilles is bugged. Of course he is, it's CA and they don't test their shit and fuck over their modders (RIP Darthmod)...

Achilles has a game mechanic, that makes him change his mood and depending on that, you get different bonus and malus'.

Except, it's broken and you only get the "fuck off everyone, I Parteeehhhh" mood. Which is great for your resources, +30%, but horrible for diplomatic... -50 on all...

remember in 3K, imagine if you had a -50 to overcome in your trades and deals. Not your reputation etc, no, you start with a -50 on the "deal or no deal-o-meter", in short, impossible.

So basically once that bug hits, and it hits early, you can't make ANY deals anymore with anyone. No NAP's, no peace, no barter, no confederation... basically, you're fucked.

Well, I guess my whole campaign became a whack-a-mole because of that. Everybody declares war on me and I am just hunting army after army and capturing and recapturing settlement after settlement, lol...

Guess I'll try with another Character...

And combat is so fucking abysmal... a lot of times, you don't understand, why unit a beat unit b, even tho it shouldn't... it's all over the place... lol...
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Aug 2020 15:21    Post subject:
sounds like early access Very Happy


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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Aug 2020 15:22    Post subject:
Sounds like CA.

They spend their money on paid reviews and Youtubers, instead of testers...
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Aug 2020 15:31    Post subject:
Achilles model is so ugly, he looks like Jason Statham's disfigured twin brother or something Laughing

This whole game is upside down.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Aug 2020 18:46    Post subject:
Giving Paris a go.

"Paris, Bitch of Troy! Legendary Fail"



come watch me fail epically... epicly... epicily... what the... is that even a word?
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