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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2020 14:37    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Kaltern wrote:
Too many people are concerned about their image. I find that to be a popular argument against VR - that you look 'silly', yet I imagine a good number of those saying this have no problem acting like a retarded palsy-riddled orangutan every Saturday night flailing their limbs about after a few pints in an attempt to look 'cool' while showing off their smooth moves...

Where do you find people with those concerns?

wherever he can break an entry perhaps Cool Face
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2020 15:01    Post subject:
I had concerns maybe a little in the beginning of VR. But now, I've been playing Alix while my wife was reading on the couch just besides me. I mean, its not like she has much choice besides divorce at this point. Everything Went Better Than Expected


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Apr 2020 17:01    Post subject:
would VR work on low settings on an integrated gpu like vega 8 for the simple gfx games like those cutting fruits in half and slicing stuff

And do u need two hands for vr ?

I have a stuck at home 70yold uncle with a paralyzed arm and th mental capacity of a 8 y old and sofar , gaming just to damn complicated , but VR made me think these simple hand movement gesture games could be a good way to induce exercise

are there games for 7y old that require no reading capability and just one good hand (other semi paralyzed), that work easily by pressing just one button on a screen to turn them on

or is it a nightmare of menus and options and settings n shit

it has to be as easy as putting helmet on grabbing controller and start playing with one hand and not having to read anything

what vr set and games would fit the bill best for such a scenario ?
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jermore




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2020 06:54    Post subject:
most games don't have much text except the main menu.
the vega 8 i have absolutely no idea, but potato games are probably alright? beat saber level stuff.

probably around half of VR games need two hands. some are just harder with 1 hand.

should still be some pretty fun ones, your main concern will be them destroying objects around them while in VR Laughing

you could always get the quest headset as it's tetherless and doesn't require a PC.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2020 09:08    Post subject:
If your Uncle can only use one arm/hand maybe try the xbox controller for disabled people. Their are vr games out where with support for gamecontroller in gerneral, maybe this is a solution. Otherwise tough luck with only one arm/hand.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th May 2020 17:01    Post subject:
Great news - The Mighty Eight, flying fortress sequel is under production.

Up to 10 people VR or (or without). Awsome news!


And its made by - yes indeed - MICROPROSE! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2020 18:36    Post subject:
https://uploadvr.com/hp-reverb-g2-features/
https://www.windowscentral.com/hp-reverb-g2-announce

HP Reverb G2 announced.

- WMR
- $600
- 4 cameras for tracking (1.4x better than previously)
- Valve-designed lenses, 2160 x 2160 LCD panels per eye at 90Hz, 114-degree field of view (FOV)
- IPD adjustment
- New design for controllers (they look similar to Oculus' now)
- New headphones, using Valve's Index approach

Might be good if you don't want to go full Index, assuming it's going to work reliably (let's see!)


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2020 20:22    Post subject:
Shocked

This sounds like the perfect mix !

* me prepare all my Rift S package to resell it *

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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2020 20:48    Post subject:
It sounds like a really good hmd but I'd like it to use controllers similar to Valve's index controllers and not rely on WMR.

Still seems like a good package. I'd consider it, but it still doesnt seem like a good enough upgrade to the O+ .


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th May 2020 21:32    Post subject:
what does Windows Mixed Reality controllers mean?
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th May 2020 14:05    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
what does Windows Mixed Reality controllers mean?


There are different controllers depending on which VR system you buy. There are different Windows Mixed Reality brands but they all use the same Windows Mixed Reality controllers and they differ from those used by Rift, Vive and Index. It's a bit like the different gamepads provided for XBox, PS4 or Nintendo etc.


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th May 2020 14:30    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
https://uploadvr.com/hp-reverb-g2-features/
https://www.windowscentral.com/hp-reverb-g2-announce

HP Reverb G2 announced.

- WMR
- $600
- 4 cameras for tracking (1.4x better than previously)
- Valve-designed lenses, 2160 x 2160 LCD panels per eye at 90Hz, 114-degree field of view (FOV)
- IPD adjustment
- New design for controllers (they look similar to Oculus' now)
- New headphones, using Valve's Index approach

Might be good if you don't want to go full Index, assuming it's going to work reliably (let's see!)

I am not sure anyone other than oculus knows how to properly do inside out tracking but we will see.
And I really do hope that lcd brightness is adjustable or dynamic. I've had rift S and the black level are terrible compared to cv1. but it's sharper


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th May 2020 22:36    Post subject:
WMR controllers eat batteries for breakfast, so it's probably wise to find some good rechargeables. Other than that.. the IPD is low, at a max of 68, but if that's wide enough for me.. I might possibly have to consider it - assuming the tracking is up to it...


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th May 2020 01:49    Post subject:
Kaltern wrote:
WMR controllers eat batteries for breakfast, so it's probably wise to find some good rechargeables. Other than that.. the IPD is low, at a max of 68, but if that's wide enough for me.. I might possibly have to consider it - assuming the tracking is up to it...


I use enveloop rechargeable and they last for a good few hours... But they used to seem to run down pretty fast as did regular alkaline. A bit of searching and I came across this



When I cleaned my controllers the batteries definitely lasted a lot longer before the low warning kicked in... I’m taking a few hours more.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th May 2020 14:21    Post subject:
Interesting..

I do hear good things about enveloop and am considering those for my Quest controllers.


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2020 12:27    Post subject:
Anyone buying a Rift CV for 200 or a Vive Pro FullKit for 700? I went a bit overboard with Headsets Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jun 2020 23:39    Post subject:
They refunded me S and now the quest is coming tomorrow. It's the only one I did not used yet so what the hell... I did not liked the halo strap on S and the LCD screen, while sharp, had terrible black levels that ruined Alyx dark levels.

Any tips and tricks aside from using charging cable as link to play pc games? Is there piracy on this damn thing?


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jun 2020 23:56    Post subject:
Just for the info, here are the scene releases for VR games -

https://predb.me/?group=vrex

There are 3 pages so far. One release is by Hoodlum. (The Talos Principle VR)


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jun 2020 23:59    Post subject:
Fugen wrote:
Just for the info, here are the scene releases for VR games -

https://predb.me/?group=vrex

There are 3 pages so far. One release is by Hoodlum. (The Talos Principle VR)

I've seen these. Guess there are no quest isodemos? Maybe on sidequest?


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2020 00:20    Post subject:
@ KillerCrocker

I have no idea, man. Sad

Just posting infos here and there. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 10:26    Post subject:
Got the quest. The damn thing is excellent. It's actually not that heavy a pretty comfortable. Screen quality , colors and black levels all are better than S. headphones fit over it no problem too. It feels like quality and the hand tracking is neat af.

The link stutters as fuck though when using the 3 meters charging cable. Looking for fixes


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 11:30    Post subject:
Is half life Alyx looking better in the quest over the rift S?

Or stutters too much ?


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 11:50    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Got the quest. The damn thing is excellent. It's actually not that heavy a pretty comfortable. Screen quality , colors and black levels all are better than S. headphones fit over it no problem too. It feels like quality and the hand tracking is neat af.

The link stutters as fuck though when using the 3 meters charging cable. Looking for fixes


I stream over WIFI and it works great. The charging cable? The cable that comes with it is not suitable for connecting to your PC

cyclonefr wrote:
Is half life Alyx looking better in the quest over the rift S?

Or stutters too much ?


I don't get any stuttering


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 12:09    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
I stream over WIFI and it works great. The charging cable? The cable that comes with it is not suitable for connecting to your PC


I don't get any stuttering


How do you stream the Quest?


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 14:30    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Got the quest. The damn thing is excellent. It's actually not that heavy a pretty comfortable. Screen quality , colors and black levels all are better than S. headphones fit over it no problem too. It feels like quality and the hand tracking is neat af.

The link stutters as fuck though when using the 3 meters charging cable. Looking for fixes


I stream over WIFI and it works great. The charging cable? The cable that comes with it is not suitable for connecting to your PC

cyclonefr wrote:
Is half life Alyx looking better in the quest over the rift S?

Or stutters too much ?


I don't get any stuttering

It is suitable. Oculus updated the link and now even the charging usb2 cable works


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 15:19    Post subject:
Grale wrote:
Newty182 wrote:
I stream over WIFI and it works great. The charging cable? The cable that comes with it is not suitable for connecting to your PC


I don't get any stuttering


How do you stream the Quest?


https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2017050365004772/


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 15:20    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Newty182 wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Got the quest. The damn thing is excellent. It's actually not that heavy a pretty comfortable. Screen quality , colors and black levels all are better than S. headphones fit over it no problem too. It feels like quality and the hand tracking is neat af.

The link stutters as fuck though when using the 3 meters charging cable. Looking for fixes


I stream over WIFI and it works great. The charging cable? The cable that comes with it is not suitable for connecting to your PC

cyclonefr wrote:
Is half life Alyx looking better in the quest over the rift S?

Or stutters too much ?


I don't get any stuttering

It is suitable. Oculus updated the link and now even the charging usb2 cable works


But that's probably why it''s stuttering, no?


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 20:54    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Newty182 wrote:


I stream over WIFI and it works great. The charging cable? The cable that comes with it is not suitable for connecting to your PC


Nah. There was weird issue that it was trying to do 60hz instead of 72 and I had to refocus game window.
But now I've set up virtual desktop and it's all wireless. Alyx works great. Better than link even

I don't get any stuttering

It is suitable. Oculus updated the link and now even the charging usb2 cable works


But that's probably why it''s stuttering, no?


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