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Yuri




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 12:47    Post subject:
Going to do a replay of the HL2 series after last playing them during their release. Other than the MMod, what else can I use for better textures in Hl2/E1/E2? Most of these mods like CM completely change the look of the game and I want something that just adds better quality textures and is lore friendly.



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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 12:51    Post subject:
I'm playing Half Life 2: Update mod atm. Its good enough for me and stays true to the lore. Plus its on steam.


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 14:15    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
I'm playing Half Life 2: Update mod atm. Its good enough for me and stays true to the lore. Plus its on steam.

The Update is a way to play hl2. Makes it look as You remember


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Yuri




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 14:32    Post subject:
Thanks C, will get that.



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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 14:33    Post subject:
HL2 Update + MMod is the way to go.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 14:36    Post subject:
hl2 update is not really a mod like cm but an engine upgrade to latest source so it has improved everything engine wise


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DCB




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 14:43    Post subject:
Yuri wrote:
I want something that just adds better quality textures and is lore friendly.

Has nobody done an AI texture upscale mod? I'd be surprised if someone hasn't given they are all the rage at the moment coupled with the popularity of HL2.

I'm tempted to try a few samples myself to see what they look like, but I don't have the time/inclination at the moment to actually play the game to get useful saves for testing. If someone wants to upload a save the first time in Kleiner's lab I can probably give Alyx's textures a whirl and see if it's worth bothering with.

Edit: Google provides. Found a place that had some saves. Checking out whether upscaling makes any noticeable difference (or more accurately whether it's an improvement).
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 17:00    Post subject:
bronson wrote:
HL2 Update + MMod is the way to go.

mmod is blasphemy but it's cool


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DCB




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 17:35    Post subject:
Tried a couple of AI upscales to see if they made much difference. Not enough to bother with in my opinion, especially since a lot of what you gain is a mess, details-wise. Although I am fussy about these things. Plus I am still running 1080p, which may make it less worthwhile.

Vending machine 512x512 -> 2048x2048

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Alyx face/hair 1024x512 -> 4096x2048, body 1024x1024 -> 4096x4096 (plus a few other of her bits and pieces)

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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 20:10    Post subject:
Very cool Surprised
Need to try hl2 update + mmod as soon as I'm done with black mesa


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Yuri




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 21:43    Post subject:


Laughing



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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 22:29    Post subject:
"Update" is the best, although it doesn't include the latest fixes Valve pushed, most importantly their fix for NPCs not blinking. https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/09/27/half-life-2s-downtrodden-npcs-have-been-unable-to-blink-for-five-years-until-now/

But you win more than you lose, so I'm recommending it.

Just inject some AO to ground the objects in the world instead of them floating in flat lighting and you are good to go.

HL2's art is great and the upscaling mod destroys it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 22:53    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Just inject some AO to ground the objects in the world instead of them floating in flat lighting and you are good to go.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 23:47    Post subject:
With whatever works for you. I know nvidia's: https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/hbao-compatibility-flags-thread.387114/page-76#post-5033321 causes minor bleeding through fog, but I probably still would prefer it over no AO because of the game's flat lightining.

Whether MXAO works better, no clue.

Also, make sure to play it with DSOAL if using headphones Wink


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Mar 2020 23:49    Post subject:
Thanks, will do Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Mar 2020 04:37    Post subject:
just played through episode 1 and 2 to get caught up for the alyx, i remember how much i hate the gravity gun gimmick and how the game tries to force you to use it when you don't want to. the final stryder battle was pretty cool, almost like battlefield.. but once again they shoe-horned the gravity gun into being a requirement Rolling Eyes

episode 1 was pretty much just shit, but ep2 wasn't bad. of course i am hugely not a fan of the drama and cutscene shit prevalent in half-life 2 (and especially not dragging around alyx). it makes me wish hl alyx wasn't at all connected to hl2 but built on hl1/black mesa.

now i'm not sure if i actually want to buy alyx, i hate linearity and a lot of half-life 2s design today Laughing
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DCB




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Mar 2020 04:43    Post subject:
jermore wrote:
just played through episode 1 and 2 to get caught up for the alyx, i remember how much i hate the gravity gun gimmick and how the game tries to force you to use it when you don't want to.

Lol, that's basically what HLA is built around, just in glove form. Then slap the VR gimmick on top of that and Valve is like a pig rolling in shit.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Mar 2020 04:54    Post subject:
DCB wrote:
jermore wrote:
just played through episode 1 and 2 to get caught up for the alyx, i remember how much i hate the gravity gun gimmick and how the game tries to force you to use it when you don't want to.

Lol, that's basically what HLA is built around, just in glove form. Then slap the VR gimmick on top of that and Valve is like a pig rolling in shit.

yeah i'm deathly afraid of it (that and the simplification of the game for VR noobs), although manipulating objects with your hands is likely to be a lot more fun and intuitive thankfully.
i'm mixed between waiting for reviews (which will likely throw it to the dogs Laughing) and just buying the game since i had so much fun with boneworks (except the puzzle shit really).
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