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couleur
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 Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2019 10:29 Post subject: The real pepe, or is it? |
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Cut off from the HK thread here:
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?
Too much OT. My fault, sorry.
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edit: Not the same pepe. They're not using this meme like the shit-right in the US.
NYT:Hong Kong Protesters Love Pepe the Frog. No, They’re Not Alt-Right.
Though well aware that the shit-right idiots will instrumentalise it for their narrative. Like the first post shows.
So overall good news.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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couleur
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2019 17:29 Post subject: |
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My post says it all. The fact that you’re still using it aswell. Its clear what that meme has become in the US. And its not so many “years” away either.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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couleur
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2019 17:44 Post subject: |
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You didnt read my post, apparently.
I never watched/read CNN or MSM. I dont watch utub either. I read the shit you wrote and still write and it tells me all I need to know about you.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2019 17:57 Post subject: |
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You posted the disinfo article that for the millionth time connects Pepe memes and Trump supporters to the "alt-right" (which now means white supremacy basically and noone serious is using to describe their ideology) and then says that the Hong Kong protesters are not using it as an alt-right symbol.
As a Pepe veteran I say: The term alt-right was used loosely by people to distance themselves from the Republican establishment. Later it came out that it was coined by a white supremacist/separatist and the MSM went wild with it. So everyone stopped using it and there is now no way to describe them other than Trump supporters.
Ah gotta go... had more to write
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couleur
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2019 18:02 Post subject: |
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Still the same rethoric, still the same people still the same meme in the US. Get over it. When it looks like shit and smells like shit, it most probably is shit whatever it may be called afterwards. edit: “everyone” is the you and your mates?
Anyway, are you telling me to differentiate?
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2019 23:27 Post subject: |
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Come on, dude, that's just a moniker to call people nazis, look here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
White nationalist and swastikas. It is bullshit to label a loose meme-based pro-Trump internet movement as that. That is a mainstream media concoction.
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couleur
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Sep 2019 00:20 Post subject: |
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You’re constantly using their rethoric and their memes. To me thats the same flow of thoughts maybe on a lesser scale, I dont know. That shit has poisoned the classic conservative right-wing parties for years. And you’re playing that game aswell. You dont want to be put in the same pot? Then stop using their language. Simple.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Sep 2019 03:11 Post subject: |
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Alt-right in it's essence is white nationalism (a la Richard Spencer). It's (as described on wiki) an ill-defined group of far-right people from various sub-groups.
It's not a single group since the alt-right encompasses among other things (but not by all the sub-groups):
anti-semitism
white nationalism
separatism
anti-political correctness
anti-establishment
anti-neoconservatism
anti-interventionism
anti-feminism
anti-lgbtq
VGA, you definitely check several of those boxes and could belong to a few of the subgroups (not the nao-nazi-based groups according to your claimed).
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couleur
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Sep 2019 07:05 Post subject: |
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So all that is missing are the swastikas?
Anyway, how can you be using that Pepe meme (supposedly anti-establishment) and support Trump at the same time. Be anti-neoliberal and support Trump at the same time? It doesnt make sense.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Sep 2019 00:29 Post subject: |
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That pepe meme was specifically adopted by the white power movement so yeah, couleur made a fair point.
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