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Bob Barnsen

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 14:45 Post subject:

JBeckman wrote:

Bob Barnsen wrote:

Oh and stealth-killing unaware enemies without a whole room going into combat, is that possible?

Somewhat, I believe you can stealth kill without triggering full hostility of every nearby living organism but be aware that NPC's tend to be linked or grouped however so if you piss off someone (This includes killing them.) his or her friends (Even if they're in far away Fuckovertheresomewhere.) might not be too happy about you when you run into them.

Similarly the crime scene trigger from picking up important items of value (Helpfully marked with a red hand icon. Smile

) can cause guards from Fuckovertheresomewhere to come running and start a investigation even if you're really, really thorough ensuring no nearby NPC's are in the vicinity or there's no clear line of sight or other blockers and the player character doing the deed is in full stealth. (Skillpoint investment apparently reduces the affected crime scene area and such a bit though.)

I tried stealth backstabbing someone just now, but still the whole room joined the battle. Sad

I mean, is there no skill or talent that lets you do that? Though i guess it would make the game too easy.

And while mentioned picking up owned items: Is it possible or is there a mod that you can't pick those items up by accident with a simple leftclick?
Had it happen to me several times already, that i was clicking around to move, and then picked up something while others saw it. Laughing

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r3dshift

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 14:46 Post subject:

JBeckman wrote:

Bob Barnsen wrote:

Oh and stealth-killing unaware enemies without a whole room going into combat, is that possible?

This sounds totally lame. :-\

Oblivion with its X-ray-eyed guards springs to mind.

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JBeckman
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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 14:53 Post subject:

Yeah it's a bit weird, you can try it almost right at the start of the game too while on the ship by picking up some owned items and it shouldn't take long until one of the NPC's comes running and wants to play strip-search, throwing the item on the ground tends to help and then they'll leave and you can pick it back up.

It's still stolen though so if some other guards want to use lay-on-hands on the character after some other item just happens to disappear you have to drop it all or either enjoy some jail time or pay to bribe the clearly biased guards.
(I mean yeah it's always the new group of adventurers taking the valuables but they could at least try to act like someone else could have done it. Razz

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And yeah happened a lot in Divinity OS1 where you wanted to click on something and the character picked it up and suddenly the entire town population is after you with greatswords and elemental magic.

EDIT: Daggerfall was worse though, even just trying to sleep outside when in a town caused a patrol of guards to charge right at you with their Halt!Halt!Halt! fervent chanting.
(Clad in the finest daedric quality arms and armor no less when at a higher character level.)

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EDIT: There's probably some way around it (Without spending every skill point on stealth and such.) though but be careful picking up owned objects, shopkeepers apparently hate it when you lay your hands on their chests. Razz

(Or any other item though D:OS1 mainly had the good stuff in containers although some things were on display and a few decorative items had a bit of value too.)

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red_avatar

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 15:21 Post subject:

Bob Barnsen wrote:

And while mentioned picking up owned items: Is it possible or is there a mod that you can't pick those items up by accident with a simple leftclick?
Had it happen to me several times already, that i was clicking around to move, and then picked up something while others saw it. Laughing

That sucks - it's amazing stuff like that still slips through after so many people beta testing this game. I also absolutely don't like the psychic guards knowing you were stealing. It's totally bullshit - even if they suspect you, they'd hardly know automatically. They should have introduced a kind of timer where the guards would become alerted when you returned to the "scene of the crime" and would THEN frisk you. I mean, how many people instantly notice something is missing?

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lolozaur

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 15:35 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

anyone else very annoyed of how they changed the dialogue replies, they made somehow indirect also the max zoom out is way too small, was looking at pcis from the previous game, zoom out was much much bigger

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blackeyedboy

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 15:47 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Did they hotfix the camera (re)setting itself to the furthermost zoomed out position after ending a dialogue? You must preorder your party before venturing forth.™ • FOV Calculator • Are you mindful today? • Women: Know Your Limits!

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r3dshift

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 15:52 Post subject:

@JB: I did try stealing that certain *neckpiece* on the ship, and got caught. Persuasion didn't work, got my ass kicked. Restarted, and killed the very first guard in the first room as revenge. Very Happy

Still, it should be possible to break an open world game ; it's half the fun of it. When you can't steal or murder properly, that kind of runis it.

@lolo:
Bob and I both, although he's gotten used to it now iirc. I still don't like it.

And the camera was zoomed IN more is DOS 1. I know because I played the game like 2 days ago. Regardless, both games would benefit a LOT from more zoom out.

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peter980

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 16:06 Post subject:

Mikey5449 wrote:

Question on full game. Seen mentioned you can customize all 4 party members but this was not possible in the beta unless you ran 4 instances and joined your own local game. Can anyone confirm if you can create a full party right off the bat without doing anything extra?

What I noticed you can do, at least as far as I've seen when I met Red Price after shipwreck, is to change his starting class through the dialogue. He can either keep his default Fighter class (warrior + geo + shield), or pick pretty much any other. This also changes his starting equipment.

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Bob Barnsen

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 16:53 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

God fucking damnit. Anyone else is plagued with sudden gamecrashes today? Earlier today i had like 3 in 1 hour. Then nothing. Now a few hours later i just got another one. I had not a single one yesterday. // And another one some minutes later. Fuck this, taking a break for now. // According to the Steam forums some others have the problem too. And it seems to start happening when you leave Fort Joy. Awesome. Enthoo Evolv ATX TG // Asus Prime x370 // Ryzen 1700 // Gainward GTX 1080 // 16GB DDR4-3200

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r3dshift

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 17:15 Post subject:

The game's been thoroughly beta tested, it seems. Very Happy

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Immunity

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 17:33 Post subject:

r3dshift wrote:

The game's been thoroughly beta tested, it seems. Very Happy

That's what happens when you only allow people to beta test the first act. And we all know how "thorough" in-house / outsourced testing is. Very Happy

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Sellob

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 17:41 Post subject:

h0rnyfavn wrote:

Sellob wrote:

How much more demanding is it compared to the previous one? Really want to try it on my potato Crying or Very sad

it depends on your potato.

It's more demanding but not that much

I can run it at 15+ fps (the first island,open areas, the city and wilderness) on my intel HD 4000 at very low 1280x800p Laughing

The first divinity was like ~25 fps or something.

Sporting a fancy dedicated GT555M, so I'm rolling with 1366x768 Laughing

Works surprisingly well at medium with SMAA (by that I mean 20-25 fps, so good enough).

As for the game, I'm loving the dialogues and narration, it's amazing leading 4 characters with unique personalities. Couldn't force myself to skip any dialogue so far Very Happy

Encountering some minor bugs though, hopefully they won't escalate.

Also, the game is hard Smile

Tried and wiped 6 times on the first fight in the game before I decided I don't fancy starting a new game every time I make a mistake and took it down a notch Razz

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 18:03 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Has anyone tried a suicide bombers party (high CON+comeback kid+ unstable+morning person)? It's just a theory atm but I reckon it could be fun 1) 3 suicide bombers with high CON 2) your main is an aero+hydro healer(resurrect)+ aero damage -bombers deal normal damage => - they suicide dealing devastating damage => - comeback kid gets activated => - they are healed => - they deal normal damage => - suicide bombers start dying and exploding again=> - your healer resurrects them => rinse and repeat. That is if these two(kid+unstable) talents work together 1) Lenovo Legion 7 (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H, RTX 3080 16Gb, 32Gb DDR4, SSD 1TB +2TB 2) SFFPC (streaming via Moonlight+ Sunshine)

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tet666

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 19:18 Post subject:

Bob Barnsen wrote:

God fucking damnit.

Anyone else is plagued with sudden gamecrashes today?
Earlier today i had like 3 in 1 hour. Then nothing.
Now a few hours later i just got another one.

I had not a single one yesterday.

// And another one some minutes later.
Fuck this, taking a break for now.

// According to the Steam forums some others have the problem too. And it seems to start happening when you leave Fort Joy. Awesome. Rolling Eyes

I'm not that far myself but a friend of mine has all his save games corrupted and crashes on loading them, seems to be widespread since posts about this issue are popping up everywhere now.

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 19:26 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Going by some discussions on the Steam forums it looks like a potential memory leak but it greatly affects the save files as well causing them to expand in file size and eventually become unusable. No way to reliably reproduce the issue yet it seems in order to find out the underlying cause of why this is happening but Larian seems to be looking into it and there's a number of suggestions. (Some users seem to believe it's down to something to do with stealing and distracting multiple NPC characters.) Having a good amount of auto saves seem to be the main method for dealing with it but then it's down to how far back you'd have to revert to before the bug started and how long you can go before it becomes critical and the save is no longer usable. (Looks like RAM usage greatly increases as this happens though so that'd be one way to check on it.)

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 19:36 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Is Polymorph any good at all? The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t always spoil the good things and make them unimportant.

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dethy

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 19:38 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

This game at higher difficulty butt rapes without lube goddamnitsomuch! My specs: Ryzen 5950x @ boosting 5ghz, Gigabyte x570 Aorus Master, 128gb G.Skill Trident Neo pc3600 ram, nVidia RTX 5080, SoundBlasterX G6, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 1TB and Hynix m.2 1TB storage SSD. Custom watercooling loop. Derpsole: Nintendo Switch, Derpstation 5 Pro

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Stige

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 19:50 Post subject:

Bob Barnsen wrote:

Played like 14 hours straight yesterday and few hours today, zero crashes so far and just landed on the second island.

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Ankh

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 20:23 Post subject:

Stige wrote:

Bob Barnsen wrote:

Played like 14 hours straight yesterday and few hours today, zero crashes so far and just landed on the second island.

Same - lots of coop for me and no crashes.

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Sellob

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 20:34 Post subject:

dethy wrote:

This game at higher difficulty butt rapes without lube goddamnitsomuch!

Out 6 fights I had so far I lost 21 of them Laughing

Got my lube ready though

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Bob Barnsen

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 20:41 Post subject:

Regarding the crashes i tried two things now, and so far no crash since then:
- Set .exe to be always run as admin
- Let Steam check the file integrity (though nothing seemed faulty or missing)

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Sellob wrote:

dethy wrote:

This game at higher difficulty butt rapes without lube goddamnitsomuch!

Out 6 fights I had so far I lost 21 of them Laughing

Got my lube ready though

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Stige

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 20:51 Post subject:

Ankh wrote:

Stige wrote:

Bob Barnsen wrote:

Played like 14 hours straight yesterday and few hours today, zero crashes so far and just landed on the second island.

Same - lots of coop for me and no crashes.

I have zero friends with the game Forever Alone

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JBeckman
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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 20:58 Post subject:

Stige wrote:

Ankh wrote:

Stige wrote:

Played like 14 hours straight yesterday and few hours today, zero crashes so far and just landed on the second island.

Same - lots of coop for me and no crashes.

I have zero friends with the game Forever Alone

The game actually supports single-player co-op of a sorts. Very Happy

(Probably not entirely intended but hey, it works.)

Or what to call it, 4 player party by basically creating a co-op session locally on your own system via 4 separate instances of the game, save said game and then you can just load it up again and play with your 4-man squad in single player.

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Ishkur123

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 21:43 Post subject:

dethy wrote:

This game at higher difficulty butt rapes without lube goddamnitsomuch!

being the man that i am, i tried tactical... lowered it after some time with the sorest asshole mankind has ever seen.

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Sin317
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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 21:51 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Yeah, tactical is really unforgiving. And never even try to fight above your level lol.

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Bob Barnsen

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 22:08 Post subject:

Ishkur123 wrote:

dethy wrote:

This game at higher difficulty butt rapes without lube goddamnitsomuch!

being the man that i am, i tried tactical... lowered it after some time with the sorest asshole mankind has ever seen.

With lowering you meant restarting the game or?
As i was not able during game to change from Tactician down to Classic, only vice versa.

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Famou

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 23:06 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Doing 1 char solo lone wolf tactician. I just use grenades a lot.

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Ishkur123

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Posted: Sat, 16th Sep 2017 23:49 Post subject:

Bob Barnsen wrote:

With lowering you meant restarting the game or?
As i was not able during game to change from Tactician down to Classic, only vice versa.

yeah, cant lower it in tactician, had to restart.

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IamAWESOME

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Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2017 04:57 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Anyone knows how many and what all spells are available? Crafting any good outside few items? Most of them seem to be pointless like before. The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t always spoil the good things and make them unimportant.

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