Wolfenstein: The New Colossus
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 06:57    Post subject:
Americans [...], freedom to the American people [...], power to Amerika, the Amerikan people must fight... fuk yeah...

WTF is this political agenda shit in videogames?!


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 07:44    Post subject:
Well, I guess there's a New Colossus popping in my pants J Browman

Looks nice, trashy and excessive. All I love in my dumb american hero shooters!


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 08:15    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Americans [...], freedom to the American people [...], power to Amerika, the Amerikan people must fight... fuk yeah...

WTF is this political agenda shit in videogames?!


Shut up
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 08:20    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Americans [...], freedom to the American people [...], power to Amerika, the Amerikan people must fight... fuk yeah...

WTF is this political agenda shit in videogames?!


Dude, you're fighting THIS


It's a parody of itself, you know? It was always supposed to be dumb that way.


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 16:26    Post subject:
Show some respect!!


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 16:36    Post subject:
Laughing

I don't like this kind of shit in my games and I just say it out loud. LOL at the reactions.

Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 17:01    Post subject:
Duke Nukem must have been hard for you. Sad Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 17:09    Post subject:
Does it use the same engine as Doom? If so: Insta buy.


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 17:15    Post subject:
Yeah it's IDTech6, although it's not developed by ID (id?) and not every UE3 or more recently UE4 game does as well as Epic's own releases to compare against something so there's that possibility but since Bethesda owns idSoftware and are publishing this they might have closer ties to it's development and troubleshooting.
(Similar to say Frostbite for EA, not that it always helped but still.)

EDIT: And for "reds" Vulkan should at least ensure this is playable on AMD GPU's now instead of being, "rough" (Putting it mildly.) like Wolf NO and Wolf OB were, although it was fixed in later drivers though the games didn't receive that many patches as I remember.
(OGL 4.x over 3.x should help a bit too for that API as well so that's also a improvement.)
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 17:21    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Laughing

I don't like this kind of shit in my games and I just say it out loud. LOL at the reactions.

Laughing


Well Wolfenstein New Order is pretty much where BJ got some actual personality and there was more story development even if it's very over the top, this basically just continues from what happened in those games although you're back in the US now instead of America and apparently some 90+ wrinkly old scientist wasn't a big deal for the Nazi party since they already won the war several years back.

I do wonder if they'll give more info on Hitler though, he's somewhat of a zombie after the events of RtCW and Wolf2009 which are semi-canon in this story though I doubt he'll show up quad-wielding Gatling guns. Very Happy


...WolfNO is also where B.J finally got some action which the game reminded you about like 3 or 4 times over the course of the story, well that's understandable I suppose.
(So no wonder he's a bit protective about that going by this reveal trailer though going by said trailer she knows how to handle herself still, ha ha.)


Also wonder if every major story event will be a poorly compressed cut-scene again, hopefully not and hopefully that can save a bit of file size since idTech and it's texture system still takes a crap ton of disk space.
(Well there was a few shorter in-game ones too.)


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 18:58    Post subject:
A quick look back will show a story about mysticism, supernatural beings (demons) and the involvement of Himmler (and his - perhaps - Ahnenerbe division - in-game spin-off as a supernatural research group), led, of course, by his passion for occultism.



So, throughout the game there was no Amerika fuk yea leitmotif, though. Smile

I know this is a spin-off, a different version of the old reality, but - for me - this is just way too... "in your face"! Not that I actually care much, though. Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 19:08    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Does it use the same engine as Doom? If so: Insta buy.


First of all: as I said already, I loved TNO and I'm surely gonna play this. And I also loved DooM (bought it in fact)

But... am I the only one that thinks idTech6 is not very good?

The "megatextures" tech, in particular, forces the textures to be so compressed that the whole scenery looks like it has been put through some bad JPEG compression... snow effect and blurry edges everywhere.

And reflections are nothing to write home about either, they have that "plastic shiny" look that immediately makes me think of ps3/x360 era games.

It is very lightweight tho, that can't be denied. But visual impact is not on par with some other more modern stuff imho.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2017 19:25    Post subject:
I loved TNO and New Blood and I am optimistic I'll enjoy this one as well Smile
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Senior game developer has a very...interesting haircut....
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Representing the modernized hipster dufus maybe? Smug


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I am aroused.
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Jun 2017 02:31    Post subject:
Show respect for this game Men.
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Jun 2017 05:32    Post subject:
ace2kx wrote:
Show respect for this game Men.



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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Jul 2017 18:55    Post subject:
I'm not so annoyed about potential agendas in video games and I usually avoid going there with the discussion, but the commentary on this video was kinda annoying if not disgusting.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Jul 2017 19:03    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:
But... am I the only one that thinks idTech6 is not very good?

Yeah, you are the only one, because everyone else thinks idTech is complete and utter crap. Seriously though even in most recent idTech games (DOOM, Dishonored 2) textures are mediocre at best. Fun made retextures of Quake1 would wipe the floor with this laughable tech. IMO this engine (which is probably not capable of good textures without wasting terabytes of space) should die already.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Jul 2017 19:31    Post subject:
idTech6 managing 60 FPS on the current consoles was probably the main target, originally Carmack planned something like 30 FPS I believe back when discussing what would follow after Rage and the future of idTech5 but since he left the new idTech6 was probably rewritten extensively.

Performance is damn good though but visually it does retain some of the tricks in idTech5 but it's not completely static which is a fairly big improvement at least. Smile


EDIT: As for Dishonored and VOID I do wonder how that engine tech looks, probably branched off pretty far from the old idTech5 code so it's more of it's own engine by now.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Jul 2017 19:36    Post subject:
Though yeah pure texture quality wise you would probably expect idTech5 and 6 to have the best looking textures ever what with 50%+ of the total file size usually being dedicated solely to Megatexture(tm) archives, tiling and repeating textures are minimized and the streaming is fairly effective but overall texture detail isn't all that spectacular for how many GB's of data said textures actually take up.

EDIT: Still better than Fallout 4's 50+ GB texture pack though, far as I've seen at least. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Jul 2017 20:41    Post subject:
idtech6+vulkan=> one of the best engines out there. At least for "corridor" games Laughing

It's a shame they still use dat megatexture crap though.


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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Jul 2017 09:30    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
https://youtu.be/Iyy7cP8jZb4



What is the point of making trailers like these?
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Jul 2017 13:11    Post subject:
Hype and somewhat world building.


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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Jul 2017 13:21    Post subject:
absolutely worth it to connect the vpn to be able to watch it Razz
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