Intel's Skylake
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 13:56    Post subject: Intel's Skylake
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2014/04/17/intel-skylake-2015/1

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Intel has pledged to continue with plans to begin mass production of its next-generation Skylake chips in the second half of next year, despite the schedule slip that delayed predecessor Broadwell.

Broadwell, the successor to the current-generation Haswell microarchitecture, is based on a 14nm process node which has been giving Intel a spot of bother. Plans to begin mass production of Broadwell processors last year were postponed due to yield problems at the extremely small feature size required of the parts. Although since resolved, Broadwell is still hanging back with rumours claiming overstock of Haswell parts is staying Intel's hand.

The delays that have beset Broadwell may have a knock-on effect for its successor, Skylake. Detailed in a slide leaked in July last year, Skylake follows the process shrink of Broadwell with an updated microarchitecture at the same 14nm process node. Skylake will, the slide claimed, support PCI Express 4.0, Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX) 3.2 and DDR4 memory. Officially, Skylake has no formal launch date but those following Intel's earlier release schedules have expected a release some time in late 2015 to early 2016.

Although Intel refuses to comment on rumours surrounding its launch schedule, the company's chief executive Brian Krzanich has suggested that Skylake will be hitting the market within its originally-rumoured timeframe. 'We had a lot going on,' Krzanich claimed, in response to an analyst's query regarding Intel's use of Taiwan Semiconductor (TSMC) for SoFIA chip production, in his company's most recent earnings call. 'The ramp of Broadwell, the ramp of Skylake in the second half of next year, plus bringing these products inside.'

Krzanich also confirmed plans to transition its mobile parts, including the outsourced SoFIA heavily-integrated chip, to internal production on a 14nm process. These moves, Intel has claimed, will boost demand for its parts - but profitability for its loss-making Mobile and Communications Group is a long way distant. 'I'd say for 2015, I would expect to see reduction in the loss [of the group],' chief financial officer Stacy Smith added. 'Not profitability, but a reduction in the loss will feel pretty good when we get there and then we'll keep driving towards the long-term profitability goal.'

Sadly, Intel did not confirm any further details regarding Skylake - but if production ramp is planned for the second half of 2015, retail availability should not be far behind.


Still a very long way off.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2014 16:12    Post subject:
Question is if Intel has done anything about the actual CPU IP? Nothing has really happened in that department since Sandy, ever since then it has been about USB3, iGPU etc. without any noticeable performance improvements of the CPU-cores themselves.

Another question is if they're fixing their horrible head-up-their-arse moment when they decided to change the silicon->lid TIM to asphalt which makes a STOCK 4770K hit 90C...

If not, and they manage to get the 14nm process working they're going to have to LOWER the possible clocks, the hotspots would create small mini-volcanoes spewing molten silicon straight through the lid. Wink


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2014 17:09    Post subject:
14nm!
it sure took shorter than i expected


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2014 17:17    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
14nm!
it sure took shorter than i expected


Don't you mean smaller?

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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2014 17:31    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
it sure took shorter than i expected

That's what she said.


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This is the first architecture from Intel that I am excited about. Not sure why, probably will be disappointing again on the desktop, but I am excited. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2014 17:55    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
14nm!
it sure took shorter than i expected


oh man, the possibilities Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2014 19:10    Post subject:
but.. but.. it's AVX 2.0 Sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jul 2014 18:04    Post subject:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/intel_skylake_s_platform_specs_z170_100_series_chipset_by_2h_2015.html

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Some new info on the pending Skylake-S chipset from Intel have surfaced on the web. The chipset will become available in 2H 2015 on many motherboards and will sport a series 100 Intel chipset chip. So yeah, that would make the lifetime/ timespan in-between Broadwell and Skylake rather small.

Skylake processors would be compatible with the latest LGA 1151 socketed boards and Z170 chipset which is part of the new 100-Series chipset replacing the 9-Series “Wild Cat” PCH. The second most interesting thing covered is that Skylake processors would have both DDR3 and DDR4 memory controllers so they will support both types of memory. We showed you several enthusiast grade DDR4 memory yesterday from various companies, ADATA, Corsair, Crucial to name a few. However, the initial cost of the DDR4 memory while suitable for the HEDT Haswell-E platform won’t be that good for the mainstream Z170 platformhence users will have the choice to stick with cheaper DDR3 sticks till DDR4 prices fall down or upgrade if they have the cash to afford a DDR4 memory kit on the mainstream platform.

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Now these are interesting considering that Skylake will feature GT4e graphics in addition to support for DDR4 memory. Intel Skylake processors will boast a totally new architecture considering they are a Tock when it comes to the Intel Tick-Tock model. The GT4e graphics will feature graphics improvement with more execution units compared to Broadwell which from leaked details is said to mention 48 EUs on GT3e and 24 EUs on GT2 level processors. Broadwell will also be the first processor to introduce GT3e graphics with on-die eDRAM cache on desktop level. Haswell refresh series will also come in different variants such as H/Y/U/S series but will not have many improvements since its based on the same Haswell architecture which launched last year.

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The most notable thing is that Intel will actually feature support for DDR3 memory on the Y and U series Skylake chips while the others including desktop processors will support DDR4 memory as confirmed several times before.

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We will also get several new Wireless technology on the 100-Series chipset such as Snowfield Peak (WiFi + Blue-tooth) replacing Wilkins Peak, Douglas Peak (WiGig+ WiFi + BT) replacing Stone Peak and Maple Peak and the Pine Peak plus WWAN LTE chips (XMM 726x) replacing the WWAN XMM7160) for wireless connectivity. Intel is also introducing the latest Alpine Ridge thunderbolt controller with Skylake pushing speeds of 40Gb/s, double that of last generation. For LAN, Intel will introduce Jacksonville to replace Clarksville.

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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jul 2014 20:26    Post subject:
In other words for users with old Mobos like me who wants to jump "High for loads of years" but "With loads of money"...

-Z170 Chipset (nearly double z97 grinhurt)
-LGA 1151 Socket (That...fucking...last "1")
-DDR4 (8-16GB)
-Nvidia's 800 series (October 2014?)

Good,atleast i'll be able to save mmmmmmoneyz until the Reviews comes out then.


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jul 2014 10:19    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Intel I5 2500K @3,30Ghz

lolz you run it stock? you know you can get like extra 1.2Ghz out of it easy for free Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jul 2014 15:58    Post subject:
I prefer saving my PC from being burned by being a noob at OC'ing....


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jul 2014 16:13    Post subject:
Just be careful when you do it. Raise the values bit by bit and it won't fuck anything up. ^_^


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jul 2014 16:17    Post subject:
It really is as simple as bumping up the multiplier a little bit, you won't burn anything out if you don't go crazy. Stock MP is 33, just set that to 40 and you've got an instant 20% boost without costing or risking anything, then if you want to go higher just do a bit of reading online and finetune .. the Sandybridge chips are magnificent OCers and require so little knowledge Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jul 2014 16:56    Post subject:
@DV2

I was skeptical at first, and granted I don't have much of a crazy OC now (only 4.3 vs the stock 3.0) it's worth it.

That said, I will hang on to my ivy bridge as long as I can *hugs 3770K*


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And it'll shut down long before it starts melting anyway. This isn't the 90's Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Jan 2015 01:52    Post subject:
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-to-delay-skylake-processors-for-desktops-to-third-quarter/


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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Jan 2015 01:53    Post subject:
Probably delayed so they can create a whole new socket and chipset Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Jan 2015 12:21    Post subject:
It has been known for ages that Haswell, at least the mainstream variant, will use a different socket and chipset.

Also, what is the news here? It was planned for H2 2015, someone said "Intel will not delay launch, it will launch in H2 2015", and then this article claims that person was wrong and it will ship in H2 2015. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Jan 2015 14:18    Post subject:
Of course it does. New Intel processor, new socket and chipset. It's always the same greedy nonsense - I just joking about it needed a further NEW chipset grinhurt
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Jan 2015 14:28    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
It has been known for ages that Haswell, at least the mainstream variant, will use a different socket and chipset.

Also, what is the news here? It was planned for H2 2015, someone said "Intel will not delay launch, it will launch in H2 2015", and then this article claims that person was wrong and it will ship in H2 2015. Laughing


Facepalm Indeed, some top notch journalism there Laughing

Saying that they delay it, and links to article that has "The company will start volume shipments of its new CPUs, as announced, in the second half of 2015." in it as their proof hahaha


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 12:33    Post subject:
Not related to skylake but a bit fuck up for Intel's side and ours,for some though.

http://hardzone.es/2015/02/12/rumor-intel-podria-cancelar-su-5a-generacion-de-procesadores/

Rumor: Intel might cancel it's 5th Gen CPUs due to it's consumption and temperature, leaving Haswell as the priority for the 1150 Socket.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 12:49    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Not related to skylake but a bit fuck up for Intel's side and ours,for some though.

http://hardzone.es/2015/02/12/rumor-intel-podria-cancelar-su-5a-generacion-de-procesadores/

Rumor: Intel might cancel it's 5th Gen CPUs due to it's consumption and temperature, leaving Haswell as the priority for the 1150 Socket.

You do realise that all dem Spanish articles you keep posting here almost always have the original source in English linked in the end?
At least make the smallest of effort and link to that, men Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 12:52    Post subject:
It's DV2 what you expect Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 10:44    Post subject:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/intel_14nm_skylake_desktop_cpus_delayed_to_august.html

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Rumor from the motherboard arena is that the launch of its 14nm Skylake desktop processors and the 100-series chipsets are pushed back to the end of August. Originally, the chip giant planned to reveal the platform in the second quarter of this year.

Intel reportedly has informed its motherboard partners that it will delay the release of its 14nm Skylake desktop CPUs and corresponding 100-series chipsets to the end of August, compared to its original schedule set for the second quarter of 2015, according to sources in Taiwan's motherboard industry.

The delay will affect PC makers' production and shipment plans for Haswell Refresh and Broadwell-U series products and may also delay the development of Broadwell models with a TDP of 65W, the sources noted.

PC makers will also not be able to unveil Skylake-based models during the upcoming Computex 2015 to be held in June in Taipei, thereby affecting PC sales in the second haft of 2015, said motherboard makers.

The delayed launch of Skylake processors may aim to avoid overlapping sales with previous platforms, indicated the sources.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 10:56    Post subject:
So with AMD cpus being garbage and dx12 coming our way soon ... what's the point in 5-10% performance bumps again? I mean why does intel even bother nowadays...


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 13:19    Post subject:
I don't think they even consider AMD as a competitor anymore. Intel is rather competing with ARM for mobile market domination. Their efforts are focused on low power consumption and GPUs that can drive high DPI screens.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 16:44    Post subject:
I am considering getting i5 4690K and a z97 1150 socket mobo.

is it better to wait summer for new releases or should i go for it?

current build is with Amd Phenom II x4 965.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 18:40    Post subject:
Go for it, the performance bump will be insane.
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